• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:48
CEST 14:48
KST 21:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival1TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET9Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)81
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24 Is there anyway to get a private coach? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training TvP Upgrades
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1454 users

[WCS] Premier League Ro16 - Season 1 2015 - Page 227

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 225 226 227 228 229 291 Next
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 04 2015 18:52 GMT
#4521
On April 05 2015 03:52 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:51 Fortuna.424 wrote:
Firecake looks really solid in setting himself up to a nice midgame, but neither going to 88 drones nor spreading creep isnt really that good vs terran if youre not leenock.

I might have misread, but did you just say that spreading creep and going up to 88 drones is bad vs Terran?

he said that doing neither isnt good
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
April 04 2015 18:52 GMT
#4522
His problem was larvas, not enough hatch/inject i guess.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 04 2015 18:52 GMT
#4523
gosh it must be intimidating to sit there and play with a cameraman on the other side of the glass just staring at you
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 04 2015 18:52 GMT
#4524
On April 05 2015 03:51 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:47 Sent. wrote:
This creep spread is very poor

yeah a lot of things look OK in FireCake's vT, but this is definitely underwhelming.

Not for a lack of trying. Polt's reaper killed every creep tumor firecake put down in the early game.

i love the creep mechanic but i hate how pivotal it is in zvt if zerg doesnt spread they die and if terran doesnt deny they die, its too much of an advantage
TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
April 04 2015 18:53 GMT
#4525
On April 05 2015 03:52 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:52 Alchemik wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:51 Fortuna.424 wrote:
Firecake looks really solid in setting himself up to a nice midgame, but neither going to 88 drones nor spreading creep isnt really that good vs terran if youre not leenock.

I might have misread, but did you just say that spreading creep and going up to 88 drones is bad vs Terran?

he said that doing neither isnt good

ahh, so I did misread

okayokay
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 18:53:48
April 04 2015 18:53 GMT
#4526
On April 05 2015 03:52 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:51 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:47 Sent. wrote:
This creep spread is very poor

yeah a lot of things look OK in FireCake's vT, but this is definitely underwhelming.

Not for a lack of trying. Polt's reaper killed every creep tumor firecake put down in the early game.

i love the creep mechanic but i hate how pivotal it is in zvt if zerg doesnt spread they die and if terran doesnt deny they die, its too much of an advantage

I think Nerchio once said it the best: "Zerg is too weak off the creep and too strong on the creep."
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 04 2015 18:54 GMT
#4527
On April 05 2015 03:52 Stolker wrote:
I would like to see Polt to try in Korea. I bet he will not get even to Code S. Look at Taeja (who is even better)

The last time someone said that Polt killed every protoss in Code S.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
April 04 2015 18:54 GMT
#4528
On April 05 2015 03:52 Stolker wrote:
I would like to see Polt to try in Korea. I bet he will not get even to Code S. Look at Taeja (who is even better)

TaeJa has been basically retired since Blizzcon, he probably didn't even actually prepare for IEM Katowice and Code A.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Megafather
Profile Joined February 2015
138 Posts
April 04 2015 18:54 GMT
#4529
On April 05 2015 03:41 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:40 Megafather wrote:
What luck 2 of the best 3 of 16 get into the same group now one has to go out 2nd in the group. Hey now Snute can face a terran in the rd of 8.

Naa, it will probably be Polt vs Forgg and the winner of that faces the winner of Hydra vs someone in the semis, and snute goes to the finals to get those sweet wcs points.

cmon Snute is top 4 this tournament, reaching the final wouldn't be much bracket luck for him


Oops that wasn't very clear. I just remembered mid sentence that Snute wanted Polt in the next round. I was sarcastically implying that it would suck for whoever went first in the other groups that not Polt, that would have to face Polt in the round of 8, or for Polt himself if its him vs ForGG.

About Snute i think he showed to be in good form so is ahead of Bunny as our foreign hope. I actualy favor him against Polt slightly.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 04 2015 18:54 GMT
#4530
what happened to roach/bane in the meta? did terrans just banshee it to death?
TL+ Member
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
April 04 2015 18:55 GMT
#4531
On April 05 2015 03:54 brickrd wrote:
what happened to roach/bane in the meta? did terrans just banshee it to death?

yes
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 04 2015 18:55 GMT
#4532
On April 05 2015 03:55 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:54 brickrd wrote:
what happened to roach/bane in the meta? did terrans just banshee it to death?

yes

Unless you're FlaSh.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 04 2015 18:56 GMT
#4533
On April 05 2015 03:55 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:55 Alchemik wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:54 brickrd wrote:
what happened to roach/bane in the meta? did terrans just banshee it to death?

yes

Unless you're FlaSh.


Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 04 2015 18:56 GMT
#4534
On April 05 2015 03:55 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:55 Alchemik wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:54 brickrd wrote:
what happened to roach/bane in the meta? did terrans just banshee it to death?

yes

Unless you're FlaSh.

we're talking about relevant Terrans
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24229 Posts
April 04 2015 18:56 GMT
#4535
nice queen sniping
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
April 04 2015 18:56 GMT
#4536
On April 05 2015 03:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:52 Stolker wrote:
I would like to see Polt to try in Korea. I bet he will not get even to Code S. Look at Taeja (who is even better)

TaeJa has been basically retired since Blizzcon, he probably didn't even actually prepare for IEM Katowice and Code A.

I'm more amazed that Team Liquid is allowing him to represent the team in his current form. I understand his wrists are poor but shouldn't they at least release a press release or something?
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 04 2015 18:57 GMT
#4537
On April 05 2015 03:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:55 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:55 Alchemik wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:54 brickrd wrote:
what happened to roach/bane in the meta? did terrans just banshee it to death?

yes

Unless you're FlaSh.

we're talking about relevant Terrans

Flash Terran MVP 4 Lyfe!
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 04 2015 18:57 GMT
#4538
On April 05 2015 03:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:52 Stolker wrote:
I would like to see Polt to try in Korea. I bet he will not get even to Code S. Look at Taeja (who is even better)

The last time someone said that Polt killed every protoss in Code S.


we've seen over and over that the ability to beat Code S players outside of Korea doesn't translate to the ability to make a strong run in GSL.

2012 Naniwa and 2015 MMA are the only exceptions so far
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 04 2015 18:57 GMT
#4539
On April 05 2015 03:40 Megafather wrote:
What luck 2 of the best 3 of 16 get into the same group now one has to go out 2nd in the group. Hey now Snute can face a terran in the rd of 8.

Naa, it will probably be Polt vs Forgg and the winner of that faces the winner of Hydra vs someone in the semis, and snute goes to the finals to get those sweet wcs points.

At this point I feel obligated that this group only has 2 koreans, because hydra LOST to Showtime.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 04 2015 18:57 GMT
#4540
On April 05 2015 03:56 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 03:54 Elentos wrote:
On April 05 2015 03:52 Stolker wrote:
I would like to see Polt to try in Korea. I bet he will not get even to Code S. Look at Taeja (who is even better)

TaeJa has been basically retired since Blizzcon, he probably didn't even actually prepare for IEM Katowice and Code A.

I'm more amazed that Team Liquid is allowing him to represent the team in his current form. I understand his wrists are poor but shouldn't they at least release a press release or something?


Liquid is a family. They don't let someone go until they ask for it.
Moderator
Prev 1 225 226 227 228 229 291 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
Group B
WardiTV810
TKL 269
IndyStarCraft 203
LiquipediaDiscussion
RSL Revival
10:00
2025 S3: Korea Qualifier
Crank 850
CranKy Ducklings192
Gemini_1964
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Crank 850
Lowko388
TKL 269
IndyStarCraft 203
Rex 108
BRAT_OK 86
MindelVK 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 64213
Sea 6144
GuemChi 1788
Leta 671
Last 262
Stork 261
Hyun 143
ggaemo 69
Backho 52
JYJ49
[ Show more ]
Aegong 38
JulyZerg 33
zelot 29
ToSsGirL 22
Noble 20
scan(afreeca) 19
SilentControl 12
Dota 2
Gorgc5642
XcaliburYe535
KheZu501
Fuzer 191
canceldota122
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King74
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor251
Other Games
singsing1989
B2W.Neo415
Sick289
Happy220
Trikslyr23
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV623
• Ler60
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 12m
SKillous vs goblin
Spirit vs GgMaChine
ByuN vs MaxPax
Afreeca Starleague
19h 12m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 12m
WardiTV Invitational
23h 12m
CrankTV Team League
1d
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 2h
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Wardi Open
1d 23h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.