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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
April 02 2015 11:07 GMT
#381
On April 02 2015 20:03 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 19:57 Phredxor wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:55 plotspot wrote:
A good strategy for next time might be to invest some of this GREED into Hellions. They are obviously good at holding ling-bane all-ins and general map control against lings until mutalisk comes out.


He held a couple of the bane-ling all ins pretty well with his hellions. In G4 he just got like 10 hellions caught on a ramp and lost the game from there.

G3 he lost his hellbats putting pressure on the third, just didn't finish it off for whatever reason.


I don't mean that it was bad defense from Flash. They were pretty good these games, it's hella risky nonetheless. If he cut a bit on the greed, he may have a few more units that would have make a difference in a counter push. I think it's just safer, than betting on perfect execution.

Lol what he held it fine and had everything he needed against the allins. By all means he was fine and it was just stupid play that cost him like getting 12 hellions surrounded and losing a cc for free.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 02 2015 11:09 GMT
#382
Another failed Terran unit
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
April 02 2015 11:10 GMT
#383
Nothing makes me happier than seeing flash lose in such a fashion. :D
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
April 02 2015 11:11 GMT
#384
On April 02 2015 20:10 sharkie wrote:
Nothing makes me happier than seeing flash lose in such a fashion. :D

By being better than his opponent and then throwing his leads away? Wouldn't it be more entertaining for you if he lost to someone better than him? <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 02 2015 11:11 GMT
#385
On April 02 2015 20:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 20:10 sharkie wrote:
Nothing makes me happier than seeing flash lose in such a fashion. :D

By being better than his opponent and then throwing his leads away? Wouldn't it be more entertaining for you if he lost to someone better than him? <.<

Not throwing a lead is part of the "being better" thing though
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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-02 11:19:55
April 02 2015 11:18 GMT
#386
On April 02 2015 20:07 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 20:03 plotspot wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:57 Phredxor wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:55 plotspot wrote:
A good strategy for next time might be to invest some of this GREED into Hellions. They are obviously good at holding ling-bane all-ins and general map control against lings until mutalisk comes out.


He held a couple of the bane-ling all ins pretty well with his hellions. In G4 he just got like 10 hellions caught on a ramp and lost the game from there.

G3 he lost his hellbats putting pressure on the third, just didn't finish it off for whatever reason.


I don't mean that it was bad defense from Flash. They were pretty good these games, it's hella risky nonetheless. If he cut a bit on the greed, he may have a few more units that would have make a difference in a counter push. I think it's just safer, than betting on perfect execution.

Lol what he held it fine and had everything he needed against the allins. By all means he was fine and it was just stupid play that cost him like getting 12 hellions surrounded and losing a cc for free.


You're certainly right for game 4. I was talking about as it as general observation and decision making. Flash's play with the 3CCs is quite risky, it was fine in the last 2 games. I just think if he makes the 3rd CC a bit later and has the right amount of hellions a bit earlier, he could hold earlier push/all-ins, and might have more units for aggression/counter pushes.

In the 3rd game if he had 2 more hellions, he might have been able to take down that hatch, instead of dancing on the knife's edge all the time.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 02 2015 11:19 GMT
#387
That's not so sexy boy..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 02 2015 11:20 GMT
#388
On April 02 2015 20:19 Penev wrote:
That's not so sexy boy..

Ahahahahah
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
April 02 2015 11:21 GMT
#389
On April 02 2015 20:18 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 20:07 Thrillz wrote:
On April 02 2015 20:03 plotspot wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:57 Phredxor wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:55 plotspot wrote:
A good strategy for next time might be to invest some of this GREED into Hellions. They are obviously good at holding ling-bane all-ins and general map control against lings until mutalisk comes out.


He held a couple of the bane-ling all ins pretty well with his hellions. In G4 he just got like 10 hellions caught on a ramp and lost the game from there.

G3 he lost his hellbats putting pressure on the third, just didn't finish it off for whatever reason.


I don't mean that it was bad defense from Flash. They were pretty good these games, it's hella risky nonetheless. If he cut a bit on the greed, he may have a few more units that would have make a difference in a counter push. I think it's just safer, than betting on perfect execution.

Lol what he held it fine and had everything he needed against the allins. By all means he was fine and it was just stupid play that cost him like getting 12 hellions surrounded and losing a cc for free.


You're certainly right for game 4. I was talking about as it as general observation and decision making. Flash's play with the 3CCs is quite risky, it was fine in the last 2 games. I just think if he makes the 3rd CC a bit later and has the right amount of hellions a bit earlier, he could hold earlier push/all-ins, and might have more units for aggression/counter pushes.

In the 3rd game if he had 2 more hellions, he might have been able to take down that hatch, instead of dancing on the knife's edge all the time.

He would have killed the 3rd hatch if he hadn't chased roaches with hellbats.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
April 02 2015 11:22 GMT
#390
If leenock had been a better zerg Flash would have been 3-0ed anyway. Leenock predicted flashs bos every time...
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
April 02 2015 11:23 GMT
#391
Poll: Recommend Rogue vs Hurricane Game 1?

★★★- Good game (4)
 
50%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
 
25%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
13%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
13%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs Hurricane Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 02 2015 11:24 GMT
#392
Nice game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
April 02 2015 11:24 GMT
#393
jet lag confirmed
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
April 02 2015 11:24 GMT
#394
TEAR

nice game, nice unit compo. And the Dt drop into archon zealot drops - nice!
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 02 2015 11:24 GMT
#395
Sexy boi lost a game?

-.o
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 02 2015 11:24 GMT
#396
jet wrists strike again
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
April 02 2015 11:29 GMT
#397
Are there known Archon Drop builds around?

'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
April 02 2015 11:32 GMT
#398
On April 02 2015 20:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 20:18 plotspot wrote:
On April 02 2015 20:07 Thrillz wrote:
On April 02 2015 20:03 plotspot wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:57 Phredxor wrote:
On April 02 2015 19:55 plotspot wrote:
A good strategy for next time might be to invest some of this GREED into Hellions. They are obviously good at holding ling-bane all-ins and general map control against lings until mutalisk comes out.


He held a couple of the bane-ling all ins pretty well with his hellions. In G4 he just got like 10 hellions caught on a ramp and lost the game from there.

G3 he lost his hellbats putting pressure on the third, just didn't finish it off for whatever reason.


I don't mean that it was bad defense from Flash. They were pretty good these games, it's hella risky nonetheless. If he cut a bit on the greed, he may have a few more units that would have make a difference in a counter push. I think it's just safer, than betting on perfect execution.

Lol what he held it fine and had everything he needed against the allins. By all means he was fine and it was just stupid play that cost him like getting 12 hellions surrounded and losing a cc for free.


You're certainly right for game 4. I was talking about as it as general observation and decision making. Flash's play with the 3CCs is quite risky, it was fine in the last 2 games. I just think if he makes the 3rd CC a bit later and has the right amount of hellions a bit earlier, he could hold earlier push/all-ins, and might have more units for aggression/counter pushes.

In the 3rd game if he had 2 more hellions, he might have been able to take down that hatch, instead of dancing on the knife's edge all the time.

He would have killed the 3rd hatch if he hadn't chased roaches with hellbats.


That's exactly what I mean. Flash is always forced (maybe with his play style) into situation where immediate decision have to do it. There's like no leeway. If his immediate decision making is shaky, then he has to buffer it somehow with other decision makings beforehand (like not building a 3rd CC and instead go for a few more units).

Btw, I think his moveout securing the 3rd base to the right in the 4th game was quite risky. Lings and banes were still lingering around and could have overwhelmed his marines. This was the CC he later lost because nothing was there to defend it, although yes it's a mistake not to lift it.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 02 2015 11:32 GMT
#399
What the hell is going on guys?!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 02 2015 11:33 GMT
#400
Sexyboy nooo
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