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Elentos
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On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?)
If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. Oh you're right they'd have a better map score than SKT <.<
Well, better hope they don't get map penalties again -.-.
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Flash won? wow o.o
must be a fluke win
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On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th.
If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total.
KT would have +6
edit: i am just not sure how draws in mapscore are decided, mapwins or the result of the direct confrontation?
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Elentos
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On March 31 2015 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total. KT would have +6
Missed my ninja edit  .
Still, if KT gets a map penalty again like in round 1 they probably finish 5th because the B-team got stomped by SKT <.<
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See my edit
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On March 31 2015 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total. KT would have +6 edit: i am just not sure how draws in mapscore are decided, mapwins or the result of the direct confrontation?
I believe that last year it was map difference?
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Elentos
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If KT goes +5 they are at 16-10 in maps, SKT could reach at best 15-10. If KT gets a map penalty they are even in map wins.
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On March 31 2015 22:39 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total. KT would have +6 edit: i am just not sure how draws in mapscore are decided, mapwins or the result of the direct confrontation? I believe that last year it was map difference?
Euh yeah i mean "map difference" with "map score", let's say both teams have the same though, what happens then?
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Elentos
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On March 31 2015 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:39 OtherWorld wrote:On March 31 2015 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total. KT would have +6 edit: i am just not sure how draws in mapscore are decided, mapwins or the result of the direct confrontation? I believe that last year it was map difference? Euh yeah i mean "map difference" with "map score", let's say both teams have the same though, what happens then?
One has to wonder, but probably the direct score against each other, right?
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On March 31 2015 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:39 OtherWorld wrote:On March 31 2015 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 21:59 Swisslink wrote:
I think if KT wins the remaining two matches, they got it, even if they win 3:2 twice, don't they?
There might be a way for them to drop out with a 4:3 score, but I think quite a lot has to go wrong for it to happen. But I got to admit, I didn't calculate everything :-P
Just my impression considering the current standing and the remaining matches. Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total. KT would have +6 edit: i am just not sure how draws in mapscore are decided, mapwins or the result of the direct confrontation? I believe that last year it was map difference? Euh yeah i mean "map difference" with "map score", let's say both teams have the same though, what happens then?
Hmm that's actually a really good question
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On March 31 2015 22:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:39 OtherWorld wrote:On March 31 2015 22:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:34 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:31 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 31 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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Hm nah, both Samsung and SKT can get to 4:3 with higher mapscore than +3 (which KT would have with two 3:2 wins) KT getting the 3-0 against Samsung was really important. Yep. If they wanna be sure to advance they need at least +5 in the next two mathes though (i think) Always depends on how Samsung plays. Optimal would be completely stomping MVP and ST-y so the pressure is on Samsung if they lose their next series. Also, SKT is under pressure, they're only 3-2 in series, they could theoretically drop out. I think if KT wins with a mapscore of +5 i the next two matches they advance no matter what. (first matchscore, then mapscore, then score against each other, right?) If Samsung wins twice and SKT beats MVP I think KT is in 5th. If Samsung wins twice, SKT has at most a +2 mapscore in the next two matches, which would mean a +5 in total. KT would have +6 edit: i am just not sure how draws in mapscore are decided, mapwins or the result of the direct confrontation? I believe that last year it was map difference? Euh yeah i mean "map difference" with "map score", let's say both teams have the same though, what happens then? One has to wonder, but probably the direct score against each other, right?
Yeah i hope so, but somehow i remember mapwins being a thing?
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Elentos
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They both have the same amount of mapwins though :D
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Elentos
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On March 31 2015 22:45 The_Red_Viper wrote:They both have the same amount of mapwins though :D
If one was at 16-10 and the other at 17-11, you'd give it to the one who's 17-11 probably. That's how it works in other sports (i.e. football (by which I mean soccer)).
Edit: Took me a while to find it, but Woongjin and STX are both at +4, Woongjin has more wins, STX won the match between the two teams, Woongjin was taken as 2nd place.
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Well it doesn't matter anyway, +5 and KT is in the playoffs 
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don't quote me on this but I"m pretty sure if you're tied on match score and map differential you play a tiebreaker, there were a few last year.
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Elentos
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On March 31 2015 22:53 The_Red_Viper wrote:Well it doesn't matter anyway, +5 and KT is in the playoffs
Unless they get a map penalty, but I don't think they've gotten warnings yet this round, right?
On March 31 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
don't quote me on this but I"m pretty sure if you're tied on match score and map differential you play a tiebreaker, there were a few last year.
Well, Wolf and Valdes did mention tie breakers, but I wasn't sure I should take them seriously, sometimes they just say things.
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On March 31 2015 22:55 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:53 The_Red_Viper wrote:Well it doesn't matter anyway, +5 and KT is in the playoffs Unless they get a map penalty, but I don't think they've gotten warnings yet this round, right? Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
don't quote me on this but I"m pretty sure if you're tied on match score and map differential you play a tiebreaker, there were a few last year. Well, Wolf and Valdes did mention tie breakers, but I wasn't sure I should take them seriously, sometimes they just say things.
Well yeah these warnings could be a thing :D
Tie breakers, huh interesting, let's hope not^^
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Elentos
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On March 31 2015 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 22:55 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2015 22:53 The_Red_Viper wrote:Well it doesn't matter anyway, +5 and KT is in the playoffs Unless they get a map penalty, but I don't think they've gotten warnings yet this round, right? On March 31 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
don't quote me on this but I"m pretty sure if you're tied on match score and map differential you play a tiebreaker, there were a few last year. Well, Wolf and Valdes did mention tie breakers, but I wasn't sure I should take them seriously, sometimes they just say things. Well yeah these warnings could be a thing :D Tie breakers, huh interesting, let's hope not^^
Well, those could only become a thing if SKT lost to Samsung. So they better not do that.
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Yeah sure, but +5 isn't the easiest thing to do tbh :D
You always can lose a silly map per match.
Even though KT should win vs MVP and Startale fairly easily
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