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Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#4881
I just want to get my face right in there and snuggle for ever
Zerg for Life
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#4882
On March 15 2015 06:56 Die4Ever wrote:
can't believe Zest made the finals with his poor current form lol

He was compared to some patchterran whose form declined after 2011.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
cakemonster
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada35 Posts
March 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#4883
Yes, Zest. Really glad he was able to make it to the finals in his current form.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#4884
On March 15 2015 06:55 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:54 DJHelium wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:52 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Whyyyyy do Terrans attack up the ramp when there's a perfectly exposed 3rd?


Because if you don't kill the protoss army you lose the game. Giving them more time to make units/get upgrades makes the attack less likely to work.

is killing the third and pulling back actually that bad?
you already have all the tech you need for the late game and the protoss is crippeld until his third is rebuild


Yeah, since you max out before toss your supply advantage is at it's biggest as the attack hits.

Even if he has lower income than before, your own income is abysmal since you have 40 workers in your army. And you can't produce more until you fight.

Also sometimes storm finishes, which is a big game changer.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
March 14 2015 21:57 GMT
#4885
On March 15 2015 06:56 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:55 HellHound wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:55 royalroadweed wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:53 Lexender wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:52 LastManProductions wrote:
I don't think Bbyong knew how ahead he was. A quicker third base, more scv's, 3 attack on the way. Sigh. SCV pull so boring.


No terran seems to want to go to lategame lately

Lately? More like ever, with the taeja being a notable exception.

Polt.

Polt doesn't play late game. He somehow finds a way make the mid game last forever.

Hack did it this week against Trap. And Polt did go to super late game against Jim in WCS.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4886
On March 15 2015 06:55 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:54 Videoboysayscube wrote:
Why do Terrans still pull SCVs against Toss? I mean, your SCVs absorb one volley from the Colossus. It's never worth it. Why do they do it?


Because they're afraid to go lategame.

also, what the fuck does "Its never worth it" mean?
TvP scv pull is one of the storngest strategies terran has and dominated the matchup for many month.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4887
On March 15 2015 06:56 ZAiNs wrote:
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On March 15 2015 06:56 Bagration wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:55 Gwavajuice wrote:
herO gonna be mad at BByong for beating him and them playing so poorly against Zest :/


Likewise, Life gonna be mad at Innovation for eliminating him and then promptly losing to Zest

Think he would rather his teammate win than Innovation...


Life going after the bonjwa status, no time for teammates
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Lockdown-
Profile Joined May 2003
United States298 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4888
Zest love.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 21:58:29
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4889
no worry guys, zest loves you all

he even loves sackofwet something
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4890
ZEST MAKIN DA LADIES HEART MELT
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4891
I hate Snute for jinxing the finals!
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4892
lol susie answering her own questions for zest :D
"say thank you"
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4893
On March 15 2015 06:55 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:53 Lexender wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:52 LastManProductions wrote:
I don't think Bbyong knew how ahead he was. A quicker third base, more scv's, 3 attack on the way. Sigh. SCV pull so boring.


No terran seems to want to go to lategame lately

Lately? More like ever, with the taeja being a notable exception.

you can't go lategame vs Toss. Even Blizzard agrees that its "slightly protoss favored" (in other words imba) but they don't seem to know a solution
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4894
We get the finals we deserve. Thanks Blizzard for a great game!



User was warned for this post
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4895
If he truly did love them, he would have taken off his shirt
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4896
zest gonna qualify for blizzcon without qualifying for any seasons of gsl?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4897
I guess I'll root for Trap in the final since he's leading my FPL team to not suckage
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4898
Looks like TANGTANG is the best TvPer in the world
Liquipedia"Expert"
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4899
On March 15 2015 06:56 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:55 HellHound wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:55 royalroadweed wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:53 Lexender wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:52 LastManProductions wrote:
I don't think Bbyong knew how ahead he was. A quicker third base, more scv's, 3 attack on the way. Sigh. SCV pull so boring.


No terran seems to want to go to lategame lately

Lately? More like ever, with the taeja being a notable exception.

Polt.

Polt doesn't play late game. He somehow finds a way make the mid game last forever.

This is the best description I have ever heard of Polt's TvP lmao
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2661 Posts
March 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#4900
On March 15 2015 06:57 SoulCapsule wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:55 Paljas wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:54 DJHelium wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:52 ZeratuLsc2 wrote:
Whyyyyy do Terrans attack up the ramp when there's a perfectly exposed 3rd?


Because if you don't kill the protoss army you lose the game. Giving them more time to make units/get upgrades makes the attack less likely to work.

is killing the third and pulling back actually that bad?
you already have all the tech you need for the late game and the protoss is crippeld until his third is rebuild


yes because imagine if the protoss is teching to storm or whatever and gets it while you bang the third... your scv pull is officially screwed. repeat that with any upgrades or major tech... when a terran is scv pulling he is on a timer.


Also terran gets all its tech really early, lategame terran is about ghost/viking and that takes much longer to build than templar/colossus
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