★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
50%
★★★- Good game (3)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
14%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
10%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
67%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
21%
★★★- Good game (7)
37%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
42%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (6)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (12)
57%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (4)
19%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
43%
★★★- Good game (5)
24%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 6?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
54%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 6?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 7?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
19%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
19%
★★★- Good game (3)
19%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
44%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 7?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
MMA vs PartinGin in GSL Code S Season 1 semifinals. PartinG has the #2 Headband! MMA is at 46.66% Blizzcon Chances. 35.2% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 63.37%. 64.8% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 37.59%. PartinG is at 89.86% Blizzcon Chances. 64.8% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 95.18%. 35.2% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 80.05%.
GSL Code S Season 1 Winning Chances PartinG has a 34.99% chance to win ----going from 89.86% to 99.62% if they get 1st, or 89.98% if they get 2nd. herO has a 26.5% chance to win ----going from 99.69% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.95% if they get 2nd. Life has a 25.71% chance to win ----going from 99.99% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. MMA has a 12.8% chance to win ----going from 46.66% to 84.02% if they get 1st, or 51.57% if they get 2nd.
MMA vs PartinGin in GSL Code S Season 1 semifinals. PartinG has the #2 Headband! MMA is at 46.66% Blizzcon Chances. 35.2% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 63.37%. 64.8% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 37.59%. PartinG is at 89.86% Blizzcon Chances. 64.8% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 95.18%. 35.2% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 80.05%.
GSL Code S Season 1 Winning Chances PartinG has a 34.99% chance to win ----going from 89.86% to 99.62% if they get 1st, or 89.98% if they get 2nd. herO has a 26.5% chance to win ----going from 99.69% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.95% if they get 2nd. Life has a 25.71% chance to win ----going from 99.99% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. MMA has a 12.8% chance to win ----going from 46.66% to 84.02% if they get 1st, or 51.57% if they get 2nd.
I am really considering selling Parting and getting MMA lol. I keeping thinking no way MMA is gonna make another GSL finals, but that's how I felt about Blizzcon too... edit: I did it...I just sold Parting and bought MMA, I know it's crazy.... gogo MMA!!!
I am a big fan of both MMA and PartinG, so I'm happy with whoever wins. Heart favours MMA, actually, because of what a great story arc it would make if MMA won this season. Head has no idea at all what to think. PartinG should theoretically win by the numbers, but MMA's creativity could go a long way and he's in really good form again. I have a weird feeling that MMA is actually going to take it, though.
I'm going to make a really specific conditional prediction:
MMA 4 > 2 PartinG or else, it'll look like MMA should have won 4-2, but due to a freak blunder, PartinG takes that game and wins 4-3.
re: PartinG - "12 consecutive GSLs" ... "But always been knocked out by ZERGs"
I know INnoVation is a pretty terrifying macro player, but he's still a Terran last I checked.
parting never got knocked out by innovation in the gsl, he lost his opening match in the 2014 third season of the gsl but there he got knocked out by stats later. he pretty much always lost to zergs in the playoffs. soO always got his number
re: PartinG - "12 consecutive GSLs" ... "But always been knocked out by ZERGs"
I know INnoVation is a pretty terrifying macro player, but he's still a Terran last I checked.
parting never got knocked out by innovation in the gsl, he lost his opening match in the 2014 third season of the gsl but there he got knocked out by stats later. he pretty much always lost to zergs in the playoffs. soO always got his number
Oh, you're right, I can't believe I forgot. I was just picking up on the implication that PartinG hasn't played any high stakes PvTs before (esp. in Code S), but their English quality control is so poor, I'm sure I'm reading into stuff that's not there.
I've always been a big fan of Parting but from the beginning of this season of GSL till now i've turned into a non-fan of MMA into quite a big one. I just want some really great games, I guess. Long ones, maybe like that Hack vs. Trap PvT in Proleague yesterday.
They noted how Parting's always been knocked out by Zergs. Well, if he beats herO in the finals, he'll have actually faced no Zergs at all to win Code S.
On March 11 2015 18:37 Circumstance wrote: They noted how Parting's always been knocked out by Zergs. Well, if he beats herO in the finals, he'll have actually faced no Zergs at all to win Code S.
On March 11 2015 18:37 Circumstance wrote: They noted how Parting's always been knocked out by Zergs. Well, if he beats herO in the finals, he'll have actually faced no Zergs at all to win Code S.
On March 11 2015 12:12 neutralrobot wrote: I am a big fan of both MMA and PartinG, so I'm happy with whoever wins. Heart favours MMA, actually, because of what a great story arc it would make if MMA won this season. Head has no idea at all what to think. PartinG should theoretically win by the numbers, but MMA's creativity could go a long way and he's in really good form again. I have a weird feeling that MMA is actually going to take it, though.
I'm going to make a really specific conditional prediction:
MMA 4 > 2 PartinG or else, it'll look like MMA should have won 4-2, but due to a freak blunder, PartinG takes that game and wins 4-3.
Crap. Artosis agrees. Well, I'm obviously way off...
On March 11 2015 18:42 pure.Wasted wrote: "You catch PartinG doing a cheese, you're going to win."
-Artosis, 2015
well thats how he loses most of the time
Yeah, I remember how he lost after Maru scouted his proxy Stargate. But I guess Maru is a worse player than the general "you" Artosis is talking about!
On March 11 2015 18:47 Elentos wrote: Why do all these events use horrible dubstep? Ugh.
Someone mentioned when Valdes was casting GSL the other day that the music didn't suck because Tasteless wasn't there. Methinks there's some truth in them words.
On March 11 2015 18:48 gDPhantom wrote: say i was, hyperthetically of course, looking for a restream of GSL since low quality is BS, would i be allowed to ask about that here?
On March 11 2015 18:47 Elentos wrote: Why do all these events use horrible dubstep? Ugh.
Someone mentioned when Valdes was casting GSL the other day that the music didn't suck because Tasteless wasn't there. Methinks there's some truth in them words.
MMA spawns in the bottom left PartinG spawns in the top right
2:00 Missed exact build orders.
3:00 MMA getting a very fast factory. PartinG chronoboosts a stalker and gets a mothership core.
4:00 PartinG moving out with these initial units and banking money. Fast hellion for MMA runs past the units. MMA has four marines out to handle this attack. Twilight council and expansion for PartinG. MMA getting a second CC himself.
5:00 Robotics facility for PartinG. MMA has a mine out. Third CC being made by MMA. A hellion is moving around the map.
MMA spawns in the bottom left PartinG spawns in the top right
2:00 Missed exact build orders.
3:00 MMA getting a very fast factory. PartinG chronoboosts a stalker and gets a mothership core.
4:00 PartinG moving out with these initial units and banking money. Fast hellion for MMA runs past the units. MMA has four marines out to handle this attack. Twilight council and expansion for PartinG. MMA getting a second CC himself.
5:00 Robotics facility for PartinG. MMA has a mine out. Third CC being made by MMA. A hellion is moving around the map.
6:00 MMA securing his expansion. Blink for PartinG. PartinG adding two gateways. A pylon has been hidden near MMA's hypothetical third.
7:00 MMA 45 vs PartinG 44 Engineering bay for PartinG. Starport starts for MMA. MMA researching stim pack. PartinG picks off a mine in the center of the map. MMA scans PartinG's main base. PartinG attacks and destroys a bunker and starts working on marines.
9:00 MMA 53 vs PartinG 63 MMA loses almost all of his marines but a bunker finishes. PartinG walks around the bunker and starts working on the natural CC and SCVs. MMA loses 10 SCVs. PartinG blinks into the main and keeps picking off units and SCVs. MMA GG's! PartinG takes a quick 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
50%
★★★- Good game (3)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On March 11 2015 18:59 graNite wrote: is this forced cross spawn?
No, I'm pretty sure all spawns are enabled.
but both players did scout cross straight away.
Hmmm, perhaps. I thought the point of this map was that all spawns were acceptable, and there's very little positional imbalance in spawning non-cross >.>
MMA spawns in the top left PartinG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Iron Fortress hype. CC first versus gate/single gas. Two barracks for MMA.
3:00 PartinG expands. MSC being made.
4:00 Two refineries for MMA. PartinG gets a full scout on MMA. PartinG building a robotics facility. MMA starts a bunker.
5:00 Factory for MMA. Engineering bay for MMA. Observer being made.
6:00 Robotics bay for PartinG. MMA getting a starport. Widow mine for MMA.
7:00 MMA 56 vs PartinG 53 MMA building a siege tank! And getting infernal pre-igniter!! PartinG got a warp prism and is making a colossus.
8:00 MMA 72 vs PartinG 65 MMA scouting with an SCV. MMA getting two more factories. COLOSSUS DROP VS MECH WTF Widow mine drop kills 3 workers.
9:00 MMA 76 vs PartinG 68 PartinG getting four more gateways. Zealots being warped in as smear shields. A tank is picked off. PartinG getting away but a widow mine destroys the warp prism with a colossus inside.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
10%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
67%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
10%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
MMA spawns in the top left PartinG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Iron Fortress hype. CC first versus gate/single gas. Two barracks for MMA.
3:00 PartinG expands. MSC being made.
4:00 Two refineries for MMA. PartinG gets a full scout on MMA. PartinG building a robotics facility. MMA starts a bunker.
5:00 Factory for MMA. Engineering bay for MMA. Observer being made.
6:00 Robotics bay for PartinG. MMA getting a starport. Widow mine for MMA.
7:00 MMA 56 vs PartinG 53 MMA building a siege tank! And getting infernal pre-igniter!! PartinG got a warp prism and is making a colossus.
8:00 MMA 72 vs PartinG 65 MMA scouting with an SCV. MMA getting two more factories. COLOSSUS DROP VS MECH WTF Widow mine drop kills 3 workers.
9:00 MMA 76 vs PartinG 68 PartinG getting four more gateways. Zealots being warped in as smear shields. A tank is picked off. PartinG getting away but a widow mine destroys the warp prism with a colossus inside.
11:00 MMA 92 vs PartinG 88 PartinG warping in a bunch of units offensively. MMA loses a few hellions while moving out but sieges his tanks and kills a bunch of PartinG's units.
12:00 MMA 108 vs PartinG 78 Twilight council for MMA. PartinG hallucinating a few immortals. MMA attacking with a few hellions, forcing double photon overcharge and killing 5 probes despite good simcity. Concussive shells and +1 mech armor for MMA. MMA re-finishing stim since it was denied.
14:00 MMA 140 vs PartinG 106 MMA has hellbats, marauders, tanks, and vikings. Dark shrine for MMA. Hellbat drop is failing to kill any workers. Blink and +1 armor for PartinG.
15:00 MMA 159 vs PartinG 113 PartinG gets a few hallucinated colossi underer a scan. MMA has pulled some SCVs. PartinG trying to retreat but loses too much and GG's! MMA ties the series up 1-1!
On March 11 2015 19:14 hborrgg wrote: Well, he's taken one map off parting, that's good right?
smart build choice. weird map, maybe anticipating parting would do something particular, and rare builds usually match up pretty well against particular ones. the more confused you are while doing a particular build the quicker it falls apart
MMA spawns in the top right PartinG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Reaper opening for MMA. Gateway/gas for PartinG.
3:00 Both players expand. MSC for PartinG. PartinG getting a second gas.
4:00 Factory for MMA. Twilight council for PartinG.
5:00 MMA building two hellions. Reaper scouts the natural. PartinG chronoboosting blink. 2 widow mines being made.
6:00 Robotics facility for PartinG. Reaper + 2 hellions force a photon overcharge and kill two probes but all die. Three more gateways for PartinG. MMA burrowing a mine at the watchtower.
7:00 MMA 46 vs PartinG 47 Starport for MMA. PartinG getting an observer. Stalkers are being positioned.
9:00 MMA 71 vs PartinG 71 PartinG blinks into the natural and kills 4 SCVs. A widow mine kills a stalker on the way out. MMA has stim. Robotics bay for PartinG. PartinG taking a third base. PartinG forces a cancel on concussive shells.
10:00 MMA 85 vs PartinG 87 MMA going for a drop. PartinG's stalkers are heading home. PartinG's colossus finishes and the drop is deflected. Four gateways finishing up. Forge for PartinG.
MMA spawns in the top right PartinG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Reaper opening for MMA. Gateway/gas for PartinG.
3:00 Both players expand. MSC for PartinG. PartinG getting a second gas.
4:00 Factory for MMA. Twilight council for PartinG.
5:00 MMA building two hellions. Reaper scouts the natural. PartinG chronoboosting blink. 2 widow mines being made.
6:00 Robotics facility for PartinG. Reaper + 2 hellions force a photon overcharge and kill two probes but all die. Three more gateways for PartinG. MMA burrowing a mine at the watchtower.
7:00 MMA 46 vs PartinG 47 Starport for MMA. PartinG getting an observer. Stalkers are being positioned.
9:00 MMA 71 vs PartinG 71 PartinG blinks into the natural and kills 4 SCVs. A widow mine kills a stalker on the way out. MMA has stim. Robotics bay for PartinG. PartinG taking a third base. PartinG forces a cancel on concussive shells.
10:00 MMA 85 vs PartinG 87 MMA going for a drop. PartinG's stalkers are heading home. PartinG's colossus finishes and the drop is deflected. Four gateways finishing up. Forge for PartinG.
12:00 MMA 110 vs PartinG 109 PartinG scouts a finished third base. A drop is moving towards PartinG's natural while MMA's units move towards his base. MMA gets a drop into the natural but didn't do a ton of damage.
13:00 MMA 131 vs PartinG 131 MMA going for exactly the same drop. MMA landing a third CC. Charge for PartinG. MMA hasn't gotten any vikings get. MMA trying to drop the main but PartinG reacts in time.
14:00 MMA 152 vs PartinG 153 PartinG adding more gateways. MMA still getting medivacs, not vikings. Second starport for MMA. MMA gets a drop undetected into the main but PartinG defends very well. MMA going for the third base but PartinG has four colossi and force fields.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
21%
★★★- Good game (7)
37%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
42%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
MMA spawns in the top right PartinG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Reaper opening for MMA. Gateway/gas for PartinG.
3:00 Both players expand. MSC for PartinG. PartinG getting a second gas.
4:00 Factory for MMA. Twilight council for PartinG.
5:00 MMA building two hellions. Reaper scouts the natural. PartinG chronoboosting blink. 2 widow mines being made.
6:00 Robotics facility for PartinG. Reaper + 2 hellions force a photon overcharge and kill two probes but all die. Three more gateways for PartinG. MMA burrowing a mine at the watchtower.
7:00 MMA 46 vs PartinG 47 Starport for MMA. PartinG getting an observer. Stalkers are being positioned.
9:00 MMA 71 vs PartinG 71 PartinG blinks into the natural and kills 4 SCVs. A widow mine kills a stalker on the way out. MMA has stim. Robotics bay for PartinG. PartinG taking a third base. PartinG forces a cancel on concussive shells.
10:00 MMA 85 vs PartinG 87 MMA going for a drop. PartinG's stalkers are heading home. PartinG's colossus finishes and the drop is deflected. Four gateways finishing up. Forge for PartinG.
12:00 MMA 110 vs PartinG 109 PartinG scouts a finished third base. A drop is moving towards PartinG's natural while MMA's units move towards his base. MMA gets a drop into the natural but didn't do a ton of damage.
13:00 MMA 131 vs PartinG 131 MMA going for exactly the same drop. MMA landing a third CC. Charge for PartinG. MMA hasn't gotten any vikings get. MMA trying to drop the main but PartinG reacts in time.
14:00 MMA 152 vs PartinG 153 PartinG adding more gateways. MMA still getting medivacs, not vikings. Second starport for MMA. MMA gets a drop undetected into the main but PartinG defends very well. MMA going for the third base but PartinG has four colossi and force fields.
16:00 MMA 126 vs PartinG 152 MMA is finally getting vikings. PartinG going on the offensive. MMA gets a good concave but can't kill the colossi quickly enough and has to GG. PartinG takes a 2-1 lead!
On March 11 2015 19:27 chambertin wrote: really just wrecked there...
constant parrying, blink medi-snaps and forcefield pain
love partings forcefield usage in pvt. so difficult to do. if a lesser player tries to play that way his gas just evaporates, parting knows exactly how every unit on the field will move and react
On March 11 2015 19:28 pure.Wasted wrote: What was up with MMA's mass WM/zero vikings/no turrets play? Was he praying PartinG would stop building Colossi eventually, or what? Lol.
it allows you to get more marauders and units out for heavy agression, it's a style polt and maru like to do a lot. But it has to do damage, if Protoss defends it well you're just dead
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
Freshly painted new Colossi coming out of Robo, shiny shiny.
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
colossus dance
It is a pretty good dance. For maximum effect, though, it has to be right by a dancing Oracle.
On March 11 2015 19:28 pure.Wasted wrote: What was up with MMA's mass WM/zero vikings/no turrets play? Was he praying PartinG would stop building Colossi eventually, or what? Lol.
it allows you to get more marauders and units out for heavy agression, it's a style polt and maru like to do a lot. But it has to do damage, if Protoss defends it well you're just dead
Well yeah, but aren't you supposed to start trying to transition once you realize you haven't killed a single Colossus and now they have 3? MMA was always scanning, he should have known.
On March 11 2015 19:28 pure.Wasted wrote: What was up with MMA's mass WM/zero vikings/no turrets play? Was he praying PartinG would stop building Colossi eventually, or what? Lol.
it allows you to get more marauders and units out for heavy agression, it's a style polt and maru like to do a lot. But it has to do damage, if Protoss defends it well you're just dead
What he said, it's a valid style but its success or failure depends very much on your opponent's ability to defend. I do somewhat like MMA trying it, feels right to see MMA dropping all over the place
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
colossus dance
It is a pretty good dance. For maximum effect, though, it has to be right by a dancing Oracle.
i remember that 4v4 monobattle showmatch from blizzcon 2013 (i think)?) where one of the koreans showed the oracle dance and everyone just lost it because hardly anyone knew it existed, lol
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
colossus dance
It is a pretty good dance. For maximum effect, though, it has to be right by a dancing Oracle.
i remember that 4v4 monobattle showmatch from blizzcon 2013 (i think)?) where one of the koreans showed the oracle dance and everyone just lost it because hardly anyone knew it existed, lol
i wanna say it was crank?
Hm... wasn't it HerO? Something in my brain is saying it was him. But I don't trust my brain too much.
3:00 PartinG expands. MMA rallying marines to PartinG's base. PartinG getting a MSC.
4:00 Bunker at PartinG's natural. MMA reveals his hand by attacking the nexus. MSC takes shield damage. Stalker finishes. MMA finds a proxy pylon but the probe gets away.
5:00 MMA expanding himself. Twilight council for PartinG. PartinG adding two gateways. The expansion died or it was cancelled. MMA taking two refineries.
On March 11 2015 19:30 Circumstance wrote: So much schaedenfreude in the LR tonight. Doesn't anyone else have a favorite animation that isn't something dying?
colossus dance
It is a pretty good dance. For maximum effect, though, it has to be right by a dancing Oracle.
i remember that 4v4 monobattle showmatch from blizzcon 2013 (i think)?) where one of the koreans showed the oracle dance and everyone just lost it because hardly anyone knew it existed, lol
i wanna say it was crank?
Hm... wasn't it HerO? Something in my brain is saying it was him. But I don't trust my brain too much.
You're right, it was. It wasn't Blizzcon, though. It was the WCS Season 3 Finals, the one in Canada.
3:00 PartinG expands. MMA rallying marines to PartinG's base. PartinG getting a MSC.
4:00 Bunker at PartinG's natural. MMA reveals his hand by attacking the nexus. MSC takes shield damage. Stalker finishes. MMA finds a proxy pylon but the probe gets away.
5:00 MMA expanding himself. Twilight council for PartinG. PartinG adding two gateways. The expansion died or it was cancelled. MMA taking two refineries.
6:00 Blink for PartinG. MMA's bunker is containing PartinG in his base but that probe is still out on the map. MMA scans PartinG when his warp gates are still turning into warp gates. Stargate for PartinG. MSC harass is deflected. The bunker is finally destroyed but stalkers lose a lot of health.
8:00 MMA 54 vs PartinG 47 PartinG having difficulty finding an opening in MMA's defense. Oracle being made. MMA has eight SCVs repairing the bunkers full-time.
9:00 MMA 66 vs PartinG 58 PartinG's expansion is almost finished. Oracle getting into MMA's mineral line and killing six SCVs. PartinG getting a second oracle. Robotics facility for PartinG.
10:00 MMA 63 vs PartinG 60 Stalkers and the second oracle bring the dead workers count up to 14. MMA has a turret in his main now. Starport for MMA. PartinG getting a robotics bay and two cannons.
3:00 PartinG expands. MMA rallying marines to PartinG's base. PartinG getting a MSC.
4:00 Bunker at PartinG's natural. MMA reveals his hand by attacking the nexus. MSC takes shield damage. Stalker finishes. MMA finds a proxy pylon but the probe gets away.
5:00 MMA expanding himself. Twilight council for PartinG. PartinG adding two gateways. The expansion died or it was cancelled. MMA taking two refineries.
6:00 Blink for PartinG. MMA's bunker is containing PartinG in his base but that probe is still out on the map. MMA scans PartinG when his warp gates are still turning into warp gates. Stargate for PartinG. MSC harass is deflected. The bunker is finally destroyed but stalkers lose a lot of health.
8:00 MMA 54 vs PartinG 47 PartinG having difficulty finding an opening in MMA's defense. Oracle being made. MMA has eight SCVs repairing the bunkers full-time.
9:00 MMA 66 vs PartinG 58 PartinG's expansion is almost finished. Oracle getting into MMA's mineral line and killing six SCVs. PartinG getting a second oracle. Robotics facility for PartinG.
10:00 MMA 63 vs PartinG 60 Stalkers and the second oracle bring the dead workers count up to 14. MMA has a turret in his main now. Starport for MMA. PartinG getting a robotics bay and two cannons.
11:00 MMA 73 vs PartinG 70 MMA salvages on of his bunkers in the main base. Oracle killing another seven SCVs.
12:00 MMA 72 vs PartinG 82 MMA moving out with a large marine/marauder force. PartinG starting a colossus. MMA trying to attack but being extremely unsuccessful.
14:00 MMA 86 vs PartinG 112 PartinG getting a third base. PartinG kills a squadron of bio and picks off a medivac. PartinG gets another two workers with an oracle. MMA's drop flies over a pylon.
15:00 MMA 104 vs PartinG 136 MMA already getting more vikings. +1 armor for both players finishing up. Charge for PartinG.
3:00 PartinG expands. MMA rallying marines to PartinG's base. PartinG getting a MSC.
4:00 Bunker at PartinG's natural. MMA reveals his hand by attacking the nexus. MSC takes shield damage. Stalker finishes. MMA finds a proxy pylon but the probe gets away.
5:00 MMA expanding himself. Twilight council for PartinG. PartinG adding two gateways. The expansion died or it was cancelled. MMA taking two refineries.
6:00 Blink for PartinG. MMA's bunker is containing PartinG in his base but that probe is still out on the map. MMA scans PartinG when his warp gates are still turning into warp gates. Stargate for PartinG. MSC harass is deflected. The bunker is finally destroyed but stalkers lose a lot of health.
8:00 MMA 54 vs PartinG 47 PartinG having difficulty finding an opening in MMA's defense. Oracle being made. MMA has eight SCVs repairing the bunkers full-time.
9:00 MMA 66 vs PartinG 58 PartinG's expansion is almost finished. Oracle getting into MMA's mineral line and killing six SCVs. PartinG getting a second oracle. Robotics facility for PartinG.
10:00 MMA 63 vs PartinG 60 Stalkers and the second oracle bring the dead workers count up to 14. MMA has a turret in his main now. Starport for MMA. PartinG getting a robotics bay and two cannons.
11:00 MMA 73 vs PartinG 70 MMA salvages on of his bunkers in the main base. Oracle killing another seven SCVs.
12:00 MMA 72 vs PartinG 82 MMA moving out with a large marine/marauder force. PartinG starting a colossus. MMA trying to attack but being extremely unsuccessful.
14:00 MMA 86 vs PartinG 112 PartinG getting a third base. PartinG kills a squadron of bio and picks off a medivac. PartinG gets another two workers with an oracle. MMA's drop flies over a pylon.
15:00 MMA 104 vs PartinG 136 MMA already getting more vikings. +1 armor for both players finishing up. Charge for PartinG.
16:00 MMA 132 vs PartinG 155 Ghost academy for MMA. MMA destroys an oracle. Hallucinated phoenix for PartinG.
17:00 MMA 142 vs PartinG 166 Templar archives for PartinG. PartinG getting archons after scouting the ghost academy. MMA moving out. MMA has nine vikings but PartinG kills three of them instantly. SCVs being pulled.
18:00 MMA 155 vs PartinG 190 PartinG hallucinates a few units and engages perfectly. MMA has no chance and GG's! PartinG extends his lead to 3-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★- Good game (6)
29%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (12)
57%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
43%
★★★- Good game (5)
24%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
5%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 6?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
54%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 6?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 7?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
19%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
19%
★★★- Good game (3)
19%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
44%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MMA vs PartinG Game 7?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
MMA spawns in the top left PartinG spawns in the bottom right
1:00 PartinG getting a 10 gate, 13 gas. MMA starting with a gas first. This took a strange turn...
2:00 Barracks for MMA.
3:00 Factory for MMA. The observer's computer is completely wrecked. Game is paused.
4:00 Game is unpaused. Widow mine and starport for MMA. PartinG getting a twilight council.
5:00 Robotics facility for PartinG. Blink for PartinG. MMA expanding. MMA going for a mine drop.
6:00 MMA getting two more barracks. Three more gateways for PartinG. PartinG completely shuts down the drop without losing a single unit. PartinG proxying a pylon.
7:00 MMA 34 vs PartinG 34 Two bunkers for MMA. MMA getting a tank. PartinG moving out. MMA is already lifting his natural CC back to his main. Second tank for MMA. PartinG blinking into the main and killing four workers. PartinG loses his first unit of the game. MMA tries a mine but PartinG kills it, even moving a stalker forward in case it gets down. MMA loses all his marines and GG's! PartinG wins 4-1!
Sometimes people say "this should have been the finals" because of how great a series was. Actually, here it would be more fitting, because such a boring series would be a perfect fir for GSL finals.
On March 11 2015 20:00 opisska wrote: Sometimes people say "this should have been the finals" because of how great a series was. Actually, here it would be more fitting, because such a boring series would be a perfect fir for GSL finals.
On March 11 2015 20:00 opisska wrote: Sometimes people say "this should have been the finals" because of how great a series was. Actually, here it would be more fitting, because such a boring series would be a perfect fir for GSL finals.
On March 11 2015 20:00 opisska wrote: Sometimes people say "this should have been the finals" because of how great a series was. Actually, here it would be more fitting, because such a boring series would be a perfect fir for GSL finals.
On March 11 2015 20:00 opisska wrote: Sometimes people say "this should have been the finals" because of how great a series was. Actually, here it would be more fitting, because such a boring series would be a perfect fir for GSL finals.
tomorrow, everything will be forgotten
¨ What is happening tomorrow?
IEM, good games, more hype
Oh, yeah, that thing Inno is playing Life I recall.
I think this is not the winner herO wanted. I think Life doesn't care either way, but herO probably doesn't want to get proxy gated 3 times in GSL finals <.<.
On March 11 2015 20:06 Elentos wrote: I think this is not the winner herO wanted. I think Life doesn't care either way, but herO probably doesn't want to get proxy gated 3 times in GSL finals <.<.
You don't have to worry your little heart...herO's gonna stop at the semis.
On March 11 2015 20:06 Elentos wrote: I think this is not the winner herO wanted. I think Life doesn't care either way, but herO probably doesn't want to get proxy gated 3 times in GSL finals <.<.
You don't have to worry your little heart...herO's gonna stop at the semis.
Even as an avid KT fan I can admit that herO's PvZ is fucking scary.
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
WHat's there to lol about ?
"Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?" is not the question you should be asking when the finals might be a mirror between the two players both dominating the race
On March 11 2015 20:02 elwoodng wrote: Thank god we have herO and PartinG to carry on the protoss torch after the decline of Zest and sOs and maybe Rain.
Rain hasn't really declined, his style just isn't good at the moment. He was the best back when Protoss was weak, but safe macro toss play isn't that strong anymore, it's the cheesy/all-in protoss play that's stronger right now. (And he can't play against swarm hosts, which are being patched).
Zest never was up there outside of a very short period when Protoss was the overpowered race and Terrans were nonexistant.
And sOs I don't think has 'declined,' he just is his own unique beast that doesn't make sense and isn't understandable.
The best tosses used to be Rain, Parting, and Creator. Creator is the one who has really declined. Rain and Parting have been good for a while and will continue to be; they've shown that they'll continue to be the best even when their race is weak. Zest hasn't shown much when his race isn't patched to be the strongest.
Right now, I would say that herO and Parting are the best two, agreed. In this series, though, I think MMA just played poorly more than Parting played well, but regardless, Parting won the series. He earned it.
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
WHat's there to lol about ?
"Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?" is not the question you should be asking when the finals might be a mirror between the two players both dominating the race
He isn't saying Parting is THE protoss player, he is saying Parting dominates Terran players
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
WHat's there to lol about ?
"Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?" is not the question you should be asking when the finals might be a mirror between the two players both dominating the race
He isn't saying Parting is THE protoss player, he is saying Parting dominates Terran players
I mus say that I really love GSL. Even though the low quality sucks a bit, watching Code S is still a unique and unparalleled experience. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what the reason is, but this just feels like the real thing.
Also, is Parting the greatest player to not have a GSL trophy? I mean, there are some "newer" people (mostly ex-BW players) who kinda stick out and do not have a GSL trophy yet, but Parting has been around since forever, he has always been at least good and occasionally great, but lacks the shiny thing on his shelf. Is there anyone else like that?
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
Maybe 2014 Zest PvP?
ForGG vT think i misunderstood it lol
ForGG is 56% against Korean Terrans in the last year (maybe there's a smaller timeframe in which he was more dominant? I haven't followed his career.) PartinG is at 83% against Korean Terrans.
On March 11 2015 20:15 opisska wrote: I mus say that I really love GSL. Even though the low quality sucks a bit, watching Code S is still a unique and unparalleled experience. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what the reason is, but this just feels like the real thing.
Also, is Parting the greatest player to not have a GSL trophy? I mean, there are some "newer" people (mostly ex-BW players) who kinda stick out and do not have a GSL trophy yet, but Parting has been around since forever, he has always been at least good and occasionally great, but lacks the shiny thing on his shelf. Is there anyone else like that?
On March 11 2015 20:02 elwoodng wrote: Thank god we have herO and PartinG to carry on the protoss torch after the decline of Zest and sOs and maybe Rain.
Zest never was up there outside of a very short period when Protoss was the overpowered race and Terrans were nonexistant.
Finally I catch you post this so I can show you that you're wrong and that you have to put more effort into your trolling. This is the last balance change done to this game. After June 5th of 2014, Zest had the following placements: top 8 Code S season 2, top 4 Code S season 3, top 4 Hot6 Cup, 2nd at IEM Toronto, 1st at KeSPA Cup. This is a month-long period of solid placements even after all balance updates were done.
On March 11 2015 20:15 opisska wrote: I mus say that I really love GSL. Even though the low quality sucks a bit, watching Code S is still a unique and unparalleled experience. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what the reason is, but this just feels like the real thing.
Also, is Parting the greatest player to not have a GSL trophy? I mean, there are some "newer" people (mostly ex-BW players) who kinda stick out and do not have a GSL trophy yet, but Parting has been around since forever, he has always been at least good and occasionally great, but lacks the shiny thing on his shelf. Is there anyone else like that?
TaeJa never had a GSL trophy either and he was pretty clearly the best player at multiple points. Also, Maru.
Parting is playing like someone that understands the game at a very intuitive level. He is not someone that plans builds and executes hoping he picked the right one (although sometimes this is the case), he has also shown great flexibility to adapt in game and have good response to opponents builds. This combined with a hyper aggresive style (which I believe all successful protoss must have in their arsenal) I think is championship worthy material.
Life just happens to play the same way.
Would rather watch a 4-1 of different build order games than watch a 4-3 macro/micro heavy games with essentially the same unit composition and story line (i.e TvZ). Diversity is what I want as a viewer.
On March 11 2015 20:02 elwoodng wrote: Thank god we have herO and PartinG to carry on the protoss torch after the decline of Zest and sOs and maybe Rain.
Zest never was up there outside of a very short period when Protoss was the overpowered race and Terrans were nonexistant.
Finally I catch you post this so I can show you that you're wrong and that you have to put more effort into your trolling. This is the last balance change done to this game. After June 5th of 2014, Zest had the following placements: top 8 Code S season 2, top 4 Code S season 3, top 4 Hot6 Cup, 2nd at IEM Toronto, 1st at KeSPA Cup. This is a month-long period of solid placements even after all balance updates were done.
I've already gone through and disseminated that argument in a different thread, no need to derail this one (which is about the GSL) and explain to you how you're incorrect. Stay on topic please.
On March 11 2015 20:15 opisska wrote: I mus say that I really love GSL. Even though the low quality sucks a bit, watching Code S is still a unique and unparalleled experience. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what the reason is, but this just feels like the real thing.
Also, is Parting the greatest player to not have a GSL trophy? I mean, there are some "newer" people (mostly ex-BW players) who kinda stick out and do not have a GSL trophy yet, but Parting has been around since forever, he has always been at least good and occasionally great, but lacks the shiny thing on his shelf. Is there anyone else like that?
um soO? Symbol would probably be #3
soO would be in the "not yet" category, he is a KeSPA-switch guy, itsn't he? Symbol is a pretty good name to put here, I think he is on of the most often overlooked great players.
On March 11 2015 20:15 opisska wrote: I mus say that I really love GSL. Even though the low quality sucks a bit, watching Code S is still a unique and unparalleled experience. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what the reason is, but this just feels like the real thing.
Also, is Parting the greatest player to not have a GSL trophy? I mean, there are some "newer" people (mostly ex-BW players) who kinda stick out and do not have a GSL trophy yet, but Parting has been around since forever, he has always been at least good and occasionally great, but lacks the shiny thing on his shelf. Is there anyone else like that?
TaeJa never had a GSL trophy either and he was pretty clearly the best player at multiple points. Also, Maru.
Honestly, as much as I like TaeJa, I was never truly convinced by him. He was definitely the best "travelling Korean" for some time, but there was this something missing when he played in GSL. But he is also definitely up there.
And silly me, I somehow thought Maru has a trophy.
Game 5 was just so bad from MMA...pretty sure SCV saw no nexus but maybe it didn't. Pylon sees dropship and MMA says "maybe he didn't see it"...Nexus cannon already activated and 3 stalkers there and he tries to fly over and past them...I think maybe he was mentally broken. Losing the cancelled nexus game had to get into his head.
On March 11 2015 20:15 opisska wrote: I mus say that I really love GSL. Even though the low quality sucks a bit, watching Code S is still a unique and unparalleled experience. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what the reason is, but this just feels like the real thing.
Also, is Parting the greatest player to not have a GSL trophy? I mean, there are some "newer" people (mostly ex-BW players) who kinda stick out and do not have a GSL trophy yet, but Parting has been around since forever, he has always been at least good and occasionally great, but lacks the shiny thing on his shelf. Is there anyone else like that?
TaeJa never had a GSL trophy either and he was pretty clearly the best player at multiple points. Also, Maru.
Taeja was pretty clearly the best player when exactly? I admit, i am probably biased against Taeja, but i can't remember this being true EVER
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
He's 84% against Terrans since the start of December. Am I overreacting?
Life dominates ZvZ pretty much.
From December till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at 72%, still 10% lower than PartinG's vT. From January of 2014 till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at... 72%. Literally within 1% of difference in more than a year. What in the hell.
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
He's 84% against Terrans since the start of December. Am I overreacting?
Life dominates ZvZ pretty much.
From December till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at 72%, still 10% lower than PartinG's vT. From January of 2014 till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at... 72%. Literally within 1% of difference in more than a year. What in the hell.
On March 11 2015 20:22 Rollora wrote: Hmm before I go into/watch the games: Were these macro games or was 2 of the Wins Bullshit Builds from our Guides here and 2 of them "protossed"?
On March 11 2015 20:22 Rollora wrote: Hmm before I go into/watch the games: Were these macro games or was 2 of the Wins Bullshit Builds from our Guides here and 2 of them "protossed"?
There's plenty of bullshit, but PartinG's just on a whole 'nother level. It's not ambiguous. I was frustrated after he 2-0'd Maru, but tonight's display was just damn impressive (except for that WM).
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
He's 84% against Terrans since the start of December. Am I overreacting?
Life dominates ZvZ pretty much.
From December till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at 72%, still 10% lower than PartinG's vT. From January of 2014 till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at... 72%. Literally within 1% of difference in more than a year. What in the hell.
This percentage in a mirror MU is to be held in higher regard than a PvT winrate IMO. Mirrors have straight up build order losses and a lot more cheese.
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
He's 84% against Terrans since the start of December. Am I overreacting?
Life dominates ZvZ pretty much.
From December till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at 72%, still 10% lower than PartinG's vT. From January of 2014 till now, Life's ZvZ vs Koreans is at... 72%. Literally within 1% of difference in more than a year. What in the hell.
This percentage in a mirror MU is to be held in higher regard than a PvT winrate IMO. Mirrors have straight up build order losses and a lot more cheese.
Hey! PvT has plenty of straight up build order losses!
On March 11 2015 20:07 pure.Wasted wrote: Have we seen a single player dominate an entire race this hard since 2013 INnoVation?
lol...
WHat's there to lol about ?
i thought he said dominate an entire race as in he's indisputably the best protoss in the world. maybe i read it wrong
I did too. herO and Life are pretty good against T too though? :D
Sorry for the confusion guys, I could have been clearer.
In the same timeframe, herO is 72% v Korean Terrans, a full 10% below PartinG's. Life's v Korean T is at 65%.
Life vT is good cause it's Life and he's incredibly good in general, but IMHO he's not that good at this match up in particular, he's not as smart as when he's playing againt P for instance.
Hyun as I think a better approach of the match up, even if he doesn't have the crazy mechanics of Life.
Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these? I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline. You think online should be rated just as highly?
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these? I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline. You think online should be rated just as highly?
Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these? I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline. You think online should be rated just as highly?
Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.
Offline shows the player's ability to deal with a lot of pressure, but I don't see why online should be completely disregarded.
Life has an 80% win-rate against Koreans Zergs in 2015. INnoVation has an 89% win-rate against Korean Protosses in 2015. Maru has an 80% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015. Parting has a 92% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.
These are the only players with 80% or above vs Koreans in any match-up.
On March 11 2015 20:39 Sakat wrote: Life has an 80% win-rate against Koreans Zergs in 2015. INnoVation has an 89% win-rate against Korean Protosses in 2015. Maru has an 80% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015. Parting has a 92% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.
These are the only players with 80% or above vs Koreans in any match-up.
On March 11 2015 20:39 Sakat wrote: Life has an 80% win-rate against Koreans Zergs in 2015. INnoVation has an 89% win-rate against Korean Protosses in 2015. Maru has an 80% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015. Parting has a 92% win-rate against Korean Terrans in 2015.
These are the only players with 80% or above vs Koreans in any match-up.
On March 11 2015 20:40 OtherWorld wrote: :/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO. How were the games? And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3
As great as a 4-1 can hope to be. Lots of great build choices by both players, MMA had a couple of stellar early holds and one amazing skilled WM play. PartinG's game sense was unimpeachable.
On March 11 2015 20:40 OtherWorld wrote: :/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO. How were the games? And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3
One-sided but fun to watch, would recommend the series overall. Also the above post, both players played really well.
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these? I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline. You think online should be rated just as highly?
Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.
Well i just think online play overall isn't really on the same prestige lvl as offline. The weekly tournaments are in there and while i think it is nice to have them, usually the player pool isn't really the same at all. This might be different for big online qualifiers though.
On March 11 2015 20:40 OtherWorld wrote: :/ oh no MMA. Well let's hope that PartinG will lose agaisnt Life or herO. How were the games? And thanks The_Templar for the LRs obviously <3
As great as a 4-1 can hope to be. Lots of great build choices by both players, MMA had a couple of stellar early holds and one amazing skilled WM play. PartinG's game sense was unimpeachable.
I'll watch the games then.
I'm sad that MMA lost but I'm so proud of him nevertheless. He certainly is the player with the best results in this GSL considering where he just come from.
Come on BigBoy, time to show your best in a GSL final !
Parting finally reaches his first GSL final. After being so consistent in Code S he's finally going all the way. Life or herO are both tougher than MMA imo (though MMA's run this season was surprising and impressive)
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these? I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline. You think online should be rated just as highly?
Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.
Offline shows the player's ability to deal with a lot of pressure, but I don't see why online should be completely disregarded.
I think the problem arises when you're comparing two players and only one of them regularly plays online stuff. They might face roughly the same number of tough opponents, but if one of them is playing online he will most likely have played more games against easier opponents. PartinG has clean sweep wins from this year over KeeN, Center and Spear, all of whom are probably worse than any Korean Terran that herO has played this year.
The stat that stands out for me is that Maru is the only Terran that either of them have lost to this year. It's pretty hard to pick who's better IMO.
On March 11 2015 20:31 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ok cause we are talking about winrates here, how do you guys prefer to filter these? I usually only look at winrates against koreans AND offline. You think online should be rated just as highly?
Well, without online, your sample size takes such a huge cut (within the relevant time frame for PartinG, at least). But I don't know, is there a compelling reason to disregard them? It's the same player pool.
Offline shows the player's ability to deal with a lot of pressure, but I don't see why online should be completely disregarded.
I think the problem arises when you're comparing two players and only one of them regularly plays online stuff. They might face roughly the same number of tough opponents, but if one of them is playing online he will most likely have played more games against easier opponents. PartinG has clean sweep wins from this year over KeeN, Center and Spear, all of whom are probably worse than any Korean Terran that herO has played this year.
The stat that stands out for me is that Maru is the only Terran that either of them have lost to this year. It's pretty hard to pick who's better IMO.
Yeah exactly, it's almost like comparing stats of players who play in different regions. A lot of online play will usually boost your winrates quite a bit due to lesser competition. That's the reason i always filter koreans AND offline
On March 11 2015 20:37 Clicker wrote: Fuck, I haven't gotten to watch the GSL in a few months. I was planning on watching this series but I missed it...but I guess I didn't miss much ;(
why would you think that? The series was pretty one sided but definitely worth watching, especialy for Partings immaculate micro and sick mind game-y build orders.
Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
Yea I'll probably watch that, but I do prefer Korean casting. It's a shame I can't watch GOMs Korean VODs even if I pay. It seems they stopped uploading to their Korean Youtube channel since the RO8. Luckily I can still watch the Korean cast live on Youtube by using a proxy.
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
FunKa is literally the greatest observer the StarCraft scene has ever known, so yeah d:
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
FunKa is literally the greatest observer the StarCraft scene has ever known, so yeah d:
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
FunKa is literally the greatest observer the StarCraft scene has ever known, so yeah d:
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
FunKa is literally the greatest observer the StarCraft scene has ever known, so yeah d:
Legend.
Not. Even. Close. Unless you mean that FunKa is a legend obviously, in which case I agree d:
On March 11 2015 23:41 sharkie wrote: You guys do know that herO has always only played protoss in his finals? So herO > Life seems pretty much a given...
He played Flash in the Shoutcraft invitational. He also lost 100% of his semi-finals against Zergs on a KeSPA-team (Dreamhack Open: Stockholm, Solar won 2-1).
On March 11 2015 23:41 sharkie wrote: You guys do know that herO has always only played protoss in his finals? So herO > Life seems pretty much a given...
Except if Life beats herO it won't be a herO final, so even if what you said made sense, it wouldn't change anything =)
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
Shit, seriously? I'll start watching those then :D
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
Shit, seriously? I'll start watching those then :D
Of course we do ! :D
But today GSL starts at 22.00 CET, we have Olimoleague replays before
I'm hoping for Life / PartinG cause that's just a classic, great match. herO and PartinG would definitely be fun but I'd prefer to avoid a mirror finals in both major tournaments. Plus I'm a huge Life fan and I'd love for him to stomp a couple S class Protosses.
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
FunKa is literally the greatest observer the StarCraft scene has ever known, so yeah d:
Legend.
Agreed. Legend is the only observing bonjwa in sc2 history. Everyone else is a distant second to him.
On March 11 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote: Does anyone know how to view Korean VODs? They stopped uploading them to their Youtube channel :/. I'm trying to view them on game.gomtv.com with a Korean proxy but I get a '영상 파일을 읽을 수 없습니다' (Can not read image file) error.
[insert comment about O'Gaming broadcasting the games in French at 20:00 CET if I'm not mistaken, in free Source quality and with FunKa observing, and then releasing the VODs for free on YT a few hours/days later]
FunKa is better at observing than whoever does it during the original GSL broadcasts <.<
FunKa is literally the greatest observer the StarCraft scene has ever known, so yeah d:
Legend.
Agreed. Legend is the only observing bonjwa in sc2 history. Everyone else is a distant second to him.
On March 12 2015 00:26 Deathstar wrote: Imagine herO smiling, holding the gsl trophy.
passion +100000000 <3
If imagining it is all you need then I'm happy for you because it's certainly not going to happen in reality
do you want to sig bet? herO > life
I feel like I have a million ongoing sigbets that I've forgotten (I think I won most of them actually), but sure. Let's make it 3 months (cut short if the other player wins IEM)?
On March 12 2015 00:26 Deathstar wrote: Imagine herO smiling, holding the gsl trophy.
passion +100000000 <3
If imagining it is all you need then I'm happy for you because it's certainly not going to happen in reality
do you want to sig bet? herO > life
I feel like I have a million ongoing sigbets that I've forgotten (I think I won most of them actually), but sure. Let's make it 3 months (cut short if the other player wins IEM)?
On March 12 2015 00:26 Deathstar wrote: Imagine herO smiling, holding the gsl trophy.
passion +100000000 <3
If imagining it is all you need then I'm happy for you because it's certainly not going to happen in reality
do you want to sig bet? herO > life
I feel like I have a million ongoing sigbets that I've forgotten (I think I won most of them actually), but sure. Let's make it 3 months (cut short if the other player wins in the GSL)?
Deal!
you two are cute, hey zealously, you wanna do a sigbet on Life winning NSSL? Oh wait...
On March 12 2015 00:26 Deathstar wrote: Imagine herO smiling, holding the gsl trophy.
passion +100000000 <3
If imagining it is all you need then I'm happy for you because it's certainly not going to happen in reality
do you want to sig bet? herO > life
I feel like I have a million ongoing sigbets that I've forgotten (I think I won most of them actually), but sure. Let's make it 3 months (cut short if the other player wins in the GSL)?
Deal!
you two are cute, hey zealously, you wanna do a sigbet on Life winning NSSL? Oh wait...
You wanna do a sigbet on your player being relevant for more than short bursts of time?
You shouldn't, because you would lose in two weeks
LETS go LIFE plz no PVP finals. also pretty cool to see a tvt final in nssl,a pvp or pvz finals in gsl and its up for grabs in wcs. got to say ppl can cry imba about whatever race but the game is pretty damn good atm( even if its ded game).
On March 12 2015 00:26 Deathstar wrote: Imagine herO smiling, holding the gsl trophy.
passion +100000000 <3
If imagining it is all you need then I'm happy for you because it's certainly not going to happen in reality
do you want to sig bet? herO > life
I feel like I have a million ongoing sigbets that I've forgotten (I think I won most of them actually), but sure. Let's make it 3 months (cut short if the other player wins in the GSL)?
Deal!
you two are cute, hey zealously, you wanna do a sigbet on Life winning NSSL? Oh wait...
You wanna do a sigbet on your player being relevant for more than short bursts of time?
You shouldn't, because you would lose in two weeks
haha <3 Zealously
I cannot deny that Life is if nothing else the most spectacularly unique player in the game, his playstyle differs so greatly from other top zergs of the past I cannot deny that it has allowed him to bounce back in a way unlike any other zerg (whereas with them, they become old and therefore obsolete)
but seriously, dream is a god and cure is winning IEM
Life vs Parting would be awesome. I'm still annoyed at the way Parting lost the Blizzard cup finals against Life. I can't believe it has taken this long for them to get another match on a big stage though.
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