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MAL presents: Smallest Map Possible is an online tournament organized by MAL, aka James the Translator from WCS 2013 S3 Finals, 2014’s S2 and S3, all circuits of Red Bull Battle Grounds, and IEM Toronto, and sponsored by Psistorm Gaming and 2LD.
Online tournament sometimes lacks the live atmosphere. It also has difficulty reaching out to the players to hear their thoughts. The tournament will feature all players’ webcams and microphones to see reactions in the midst of a battle and to hear more from the players during the map vetoes and pre/post game interviews.
Have you ever wondered if a player is close with his/her opponent? Were you ever curious why map vetoes happened in the fashion that it did? Have you cursed or screamed out of joy in middle of a game and wondered if the players did too? This is the tournament that will educate you on all your wonders, or at least attempt to.
MAL presents: Smallest Map Possible is a meta breaking tournament. The current meta consists of big maps which leads to one big bang with few minor battles here and there. By bringing old and small maps, the tournament seeks to answer and showcase how the current understandings of games would translate if that was then.
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Looks fun!
OP says 6pm GMT, while Liquipedia says 6am GMT, which is right? I'm assuming 6am because 6pm is middle of the night in Korea.
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On February 06 2015 07:41 Crot4le wrote:
Let's go Heart!
i was wondering how i'd missed you for so long <3
but yeah gogo heart (and creator if heart can't win)
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TaeJa, Korhal Floating Island, and completely impossible times for me, sick tournament :D
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Kinda relieved that this acutally isn't a tournament on the smallest map possible. :D
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Smallest Map Possible.
No Steppes of War.
Joke tournament.
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On February 06 2015 13:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Smallest Map Possible.
No Steppes of War.
Joke tournament.
They're competition worthy maps 
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On February 06 2015 13:28 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 13:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Smallest Map Possible.
No Steppes of War.
Joke tournament. They're competition worthy maps
Steppes was played in GSL. Sounds competition worthy to me
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Taeja has been sapped of all his powers by his return to the motherland.
PartinG's got this.
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On February 06 2015 14:09 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 13:28 The_Templar wrote:On February 06 2015 13:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Smallest Map Possible.
No Steppes of War.
Joke tournament. They're competition worthy maps Steppes was played in GSL. Sounds competition worthy to me
Plus Steppes was played in a different era. Nowadays the meta (and game itself) have changed so there's no reason not to try it with high level players.
Just because something ended up being bad at the time doesn't mean it's bad when you have new units and a new meta.
Early SC2 Steppes vs late SC2: HotS Steppes. Different games.
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I thought Korhal Floating Island is a pretty big map?
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Oh !
No steppes of war, no desert oasis, no scrap station, no jungle bassin !
I'm so disappointed, the tittle made me so hard now I'm sad
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Go Journey 
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Thanks for organizing this, Mal!
Go Check
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Creator and Parting?I'm going to watch it for sure!
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On February 06 2015 18:24 Lonyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 14:09 Shellshock wrote:On February 06 2015 13:28 The_Templar wrote:On February 06 2015 13:08 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Smallest Map Possible.
No Steppes of War.
Joke tournament. They're competition worthy maps Steppes was played in GSL. Sounds competition worthy to me Plus Steppes was played in a different era. Nowadays the meta (and game itself) have changed so there's no reason not to try it with high level players. Just because something ended up being bad at the time doesn't mean it's bad when you have new units and a new meta. Early SC2 Steppes vs late SC2: HotS Steppes. Different games.
If the intent of this tournament is to break the meta, I think Steppes is fair game.
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While Steppes might be small and different from current maps, it's not actually a good map. The map pool used here is infinitely better and I would even say it is better than the current ladder map pool (funny how that works Blizz).
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YAY TAEJA I missed this sassy little Terran.
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This should be a great tournament. Really looking forward to it!
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On February 06 2015 20:12 Philozovic wrote:
Oh !
No steppes of war, no desert oasis, no scrap station, no jungle bassin !
I'm so disappointed, the tittle made me so hard now I'm sad
sorry. i didnt want to break the game. gg's. hope the hardness is gone by now
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On February 07 2015 00:55 Blargh wrote:
While Steppes might be small and different from current maps, it's not actually a good map. The map pool used here is infinitely better and I would even say it is better than the current ladder map pool (funny how that works Blizz).
i and the boys wanted to make a tournament worth watching and worth collecting data for. we took days figuring out what pool would be the best and landed on those 7. thnx for noticing
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Planet S and Korhal Floating Island?
YESSSSSSSS
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With Parting's aggressive style I think he's got this easy! Looks like a fun tournament
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I feel like Im gonna be glued to my seat while watching this tournament, I really love small maps because they make for the most interesting and agressive matches, what a great idea to put together a tournament like this!
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It was a travesty that Steppes of War didn't make the dream pool. The most famous sc2 map ever probably (or infamous). It exemplified the craziness that dream pool was about. Here is the perfect opportunity to right that wrong and it's getting missed.
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I'm ready to see some small maps
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I'm awake and it's 7am and I've never been happier. Go Revival!
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This is pretty sweet that you get to see the players and interactions between them.
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Did I just tune in to Journey kicking Taeja's ass? Nice
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On February 07 2015 15:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Did I just tune in to Journey kicking Taeja's ass? Nice
M E C H B O Y S
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On February 07 2015 15:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 15:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Did I just tune in to Journey kicking Taeja's ass? Nice M E C H B O Y S
I am already tired of this B O Y S meme :/
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Journey please 
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I guess that's why you get a planetary
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On February 07 2015 16:10 Shellshock wrote:Journey please
easy for him
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oh how the mighty have fallen...
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On February 07 2015 16:22 HolydaKing wrote:easy for him
I shouldnt have worried for a second. forgive me
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I like this tournament. I like MAL. I like his and Catz's casting. But I'm having a really hard time enjoying the viewing experience with the production issues I'm seeing. Catz is consistently too quiet, the video stuttered progressively further, both of them would randomly go into robo autotune voice, and the picture quality blurs a lot when the camera is moved. I feel like MAL could use some upgrades to his broadcasting setup.
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stream dead?
edit: alive now
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oh wow, Round Robin?
Mal breaking the tournament meta too
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poor MAL
gl dude, beginnings are always rough
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Korhal Floating Island keeps being veto'd
and we keep seeing fucking Cloud Kingdom
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Oh man, no one set up a calendar event for this?
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On February 07 2015 17:58 digmouse wrote:
Oh man, no one set up a calendar event for this?
it was on calendar (albeit with no stream), but I guess calendar scheduled for it to be already over
bummer
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On February 07 2015 18:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 17:58 digmouse wrote:
Oh man, no one set up a calendar event for this? it was on calendar (albeit with no stream), but I guess calendar scheduled for it to be already over bummer
Should be good right now.
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On February 07 2015 18:10 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 18:08 Ej_ wrote:On February 07 2015 17:58 digmouse wrote:
Oh man, no one set up a calendar event for this? it was on calendar (albeit with no stream), but I guess calendar scheduled for it to be already over bummer Should be good right now.
It is, kudos!
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On February 07 2015 17:49 Ej_ wrote:
this was super clutch
What was super clutch? D:
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On February 07 2015 18:13 rice_devOurer wrote:What was super clutch? D:
2rax vs 15pool, Revival holds his hatchery with less than 50 HP left
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are there still games going on?
Cant load the stream
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On February 07 2015 18:20 Rollora wrote:are there still games going on? Cant load the stream
there was 1 going on right when it went offline
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On February 07 2015 18:23 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 18:20 Rollora wrote:are there still games going on? Cant load the stream there was 1 going on right when it went offline
something is back on again, not sure what I am watching here...
Edit: ah twas the map selection
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CK again...
excited to see TvZ on Planet S though
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Well if the game lagged as the stream did, no wonder the terran lost. No micro possible is instant death
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What was the score between TaeJa and Revival?
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On February 07 2015 19:03 Wardi wrote:
What was the score between TaeJa and Revival?
2:1 Taeja won
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10/10 for MAL casting this game.
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offline again or is it over?
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Wow Journey! Defo gonna check vods
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On February 07 2015 17:17 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I like this tournament. I like MAL. I like his and Catz's casting. But I'm having a really hard time enjoying the viewing experience with the production issues I'm seeing. Catz is consistently too quiet, the video stuttered progressively further, both of them would randomly go into robo autotune voice, and the picture quality blurs a lot when the camera is moved. I feel like MAL could use some upgrades to his broadcasting setup.
I am so sorry. Something weird intervened. During testings everything was fine. Then came the match fixers, then came what appeared to be DDoS based off of players' analysis on what was happening. I am not too sure what caused it and I did not know exactly how to deal with it. It really is all my fault for not being able to handle the situations properly. I am working on reinstalling game itself, and OBS as well. I am doing all I can to catch what caused this issue and hope tomorrow is flawless and smooth as the previous "MAL presents" series. Once again, I am so sorry I ruined your experience.
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On February 07 2015 18:51 Rollora wrote:
Well if the game lagged as the stream did, no wonder the terran lost. No micro possible is instant death
From the player's side, it wasnt TOO bad said the players. It seemed to be me just lagging hard on my own with minor sprinkled droppage in game every now and then. Regardless, I am so sorry that it's caused. I am doing all I can to prevent/fix the situation.
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hey Mal, thanks for these tourneys man. is it possible to see the vods for day 1?
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On February 07 2015 22:52 iamMal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 17:17 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I like this tournament. I like MAL. I like his and Catz's casting. But I'm having a really hard time enjoying the viewing experience with the production issues I'm seeing. Catz is consistently too quiet, the video stuttered progressively further, both of them would randomly go into robo autotune voice, and the picture quality blurs a lot when the camera is moved. I feel like MAL could use some upgrades to his broadcasting setup. I am so sorry. Something weird intervened. During testings everything was fine. Then came the match fixers, then came what appeared to be DDoS based off of players' analysis on what was happening. I am not too sure what caused it and I did not know exactly how to deal with it. It really is all my fault for not being able to handle the situations properly. I am working on reinstalling game itself, and OBS as well. I am doing all I can to catch what caused this issue and hope tomorrow is flawless and smooth as the previous "MAL presents" series. Once again, I am so sorry I ruined your experience.
No problem dude. Hope you can fix it and thank you for this great tournament. Great line up
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Since you are not going for a balanced map pool and most of the maps haven't been used in premier tournaments in a long while, why not go one step further and use community maps? Here is a thread with a list of somewhat recent community maps sorted by category, and with the upcoming TLMC5 there are new maps created every day. I'd like to think this might also get more viewers, but tournaments never use community maps so I have no idea if that's actually true.
Just a thought.
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1am EST
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Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
Journey is better than TaeJa? Oo;;
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On February 08 2015 03:34 Seeker wrote:
Journey is better than TaeJa? Oo;;
the bait is real
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MAL being totally awesome and saving esports. <3
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On February 08 2015 03:34 Seeker wrote:
Journey is better than TaeJa? Oo;;
No. -_-
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On February 08 2015 03:34 Seeker wrote:
Journey is better than TaeJa? Oo;;
Yes!
Top Terran of 2015 inc
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On February 08 2015 03:42 Jer99 wrote:the bait is real
No bait. Watch the games. The better player last night won
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what was the score of Creator vs Parting? I don't see it on liquipedia
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On February 08 2015 15:48 Shellshock wrote:
what was the score of Creator vs Parting? I don't see it on liquipedia
This is the first series.
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oh wow I didn't know you could actually ignite doodads
that's really cool
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On February 08 2015 16:09 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 15:48 Shellshock wrote:
what was the score of Creator vs Parting? I don't see it on liquipedia This is the first series.
oh my bad. thanks
Nice job TRUE
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Finally time for the main event. Protoss on the smallest maps possible
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so far TRUE vs Parting looking like every Life vs Parting in last couple of months
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So Heart vs Creator is about to go down... I saw TRUE 2-0'd PartinG but how did the first two series go? Apparently PartinG beat Creator and TRUE beat Heart.
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On February 08 2015 17:51 SamuraiX- wrote:
So Heart vs Creator is about to go down... I saw TRUE 2-0'd PartinG but how did the first two series go? Apparently PartinG beat Creator and TRUE beat Heart.
1st game was a bust after double expand to gold from TRUE, 2nd game immortal all-in without MsC around versus a roach ling base trade
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How has Creator looked? I missed all of his games
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On February 08 2015 18:05 Shellshock wrote:
How has Creator looked? I missed all of his games
He just rocked Heart's world with an Immortal all-in that probably made PartinG jizz himself.
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liquipedia isn't updated
What was the score for Heart-TRUE?
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On February 08 2015 18:17 Lorning wrote:
Stooooooooorm
Beautiful
I love Mal for doing these tournaments but he desperately needs a co-caster. He literally just screams shit into the mic.
Heart played that second game pretty terribly.
On February 08 2015 18:19 dazed25 wrote:liquipedia isn't updated What was the score for Heart-TRUE?
Apparently TRUE won. No clue if it was one-sided or not but Mal did mention that TRUE really looks to be on his game today. He did 2-0 PartinG.
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On February 08 2015 18:19 dazed25 wrote:liquipedia isn't updated What was the score for Heart-TRUE?
TRUE 2-1 Heart
TRUE won game 1 on Neo Planet S, Heart won game 2 on Cloud Kingdom, TRUE won game 3 I think the map was Yeonsu I wasn't really watching too closely
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On February 08 2015 18:24 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 18:19 dazed25 wrote:liquipedia isn't updated What was the score for Heart-TRUE? TRUE 2-1 Heart TRUE won game 1 on Neo Planet S, Heart won game 2 on Cloud Kingdom, TRUE won game 3 I think the map was Yeonsu I wasn't really watching too closely
3rd map was Yeonsu indeed
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On February 08 2015 18:21 SamuraiX- wrote:I love Mal for doing these tournaments but he desperately needs a co-caster. He literally just screams shit into the mic.
I love being able to hear from players and see him joke around with them. But yeah his casting isn't that great. Maybe he will improve. I feel it might be a cultural thing with the excited shoutcasting and that it doesn't translate well in English. I have the same issues when Dragon and Breaker cast.
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Are the results on liquipedia correct? Can anyone confirm who was watching from the start?
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On February 08 2015 18:34 ibo422 wrote:
Are the results on liquipedia correct? Can anyone confirm who was watching from the start?
correct
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Creator playing well vs TRUE, nice to see him winning PvZ again.
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Why can't he always play this well in PvZ =.=
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Creator won a PvZ? wuuuuuut
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welp missed TRUE vs Creator because I was stuck in a game with 70apm Terran turtling behind planetaries and tanks to Raven cloud
I'll stick to watching SC2
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Wait I just found out that Creator is playing in this! AND HE WON A PVZ MU, what the hell is going on? Gogo Creator!!
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Put parting first according to "Tiebreakers will be determined based on head-to-head results."
Feel free to change if not true.
Gg's.
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Beats PartinG and loses to Creator, wtf TRUE
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On February 09 2015 05:56 SatedSC2 wrote:As far as I can tell, results aren't the problem being brought up about these tournaments. It's more people abusing stream delay to bet on games using information that the bookies won't have. EDIT: Obviously still not a good thing, but nowhere near as bad as players throwing games.
I dunno, I dunno.
On February 09 2015 05:58 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 05:56 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
This is an unfortunate thing to hear, however I think it's being handled appropriately. I don't know why Olivia decided that she would blow the top off of this one today, but I'm glad it's happened now instead of 6 months ago when Blizzard was just starting to investigate as it woulda been hard for them to really gather as much information as they probably have. I hope that with this knowledge there will be an effort to make sure that these bettors are not fiddling with our scene. I liked the suggestions TB made in his post. Probably out of frustration that our player was harassed by Korean betters in the Smallest Map Possible tournament yesterday, which affected his performance and there are questions as to who is funding that event.
But yeah we should restrain from grabbing the pitchforks on a specific tournament until evidences come up. Then we'll have our fun I guess.
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Let us try and keep all that speculation garbage in the other thread please...
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The community is prone to witch hunts. Lets try to be self aware.
Regardless of where the money is coming from for this tournament, I think Mal should promote his sponsors a little bit more. I had to go digging to find any mention of who is putting up the money at all. How can they consider this efficient marketing if the viewers can't even figure out what products are being sold?
I know Mal doesn't get ad revenue from Twitch (unless that changed since his last tournament) so he must rely on pleasing sponsors to be able to host tournaments at all.
Sponsors(?)?
-PSH company Hunting safari company?
-PSISTORM gaming
-2LD (he links to 2ld.info but it won't load for me)
-DSP design (processors I think)
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On February 09 2015 09:29 HewTheTitan wrote:The community is prone to witch hunts. Lets try to be self aware. Regardless of where the money is coming from for this tournament, I think Mal should promote his sponsors a little bit more. I had to go digging to find any mention of who is putting up the money at all. How can they consider this efficient marketing if the viewers can't even figure out what products are being sold? I know Mal doesn't get ad revenue from Twitch (unless that changed since his last tournament) so he must rely on pleasing sponsors to be able to host tournaments at all. Sponsors(?)? -PSH company Hunting safari company?-PSISTORM gaming -2LD (he links to 2ld.info but it won't load for me) -DSP design (processors I think)
PHS Company do not currently have a website yet.
DSP-Design did not have a website either when I made the Liquipedia page and TL thread.
PSISTORM Gaming has a Liquipedia page and a website.
2LD website link was given to me by MAL: http://www.2ld.info/
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please tell me there are plans to use the actual "smallest map possible" circa sc2 beta
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On February 09 2015 10:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 09:29 HewTheTitan wrote:The community is prone to witch hunts. Lets try to be self aware. Regardless of where the money is coming from for this tournament, I think Mal should promote his sponsors a little bit more. I had to go digging to find any mention of who is putting up the money at all. How can they consider this efficient marketing if the viewers can't even figure out what products are being sold? I know Mal doesn't get ad revenue from Twitch (unless that changed since his last tournament) so he must rely on pleasing sponsors to be able to host tournaments at all. Sponsors(?)? -PSH company Hunting safari company?-PSISTORM gaming -2LD (he links to 2ld.info but it won't load for me) -DSP design (processors I think) PHS Company do not currently have a website yet. DSP-Design did not have a website either when I made the Liquipedia page and TL thread. PSISTORM Gaming has a Liquipedia page and a website. 2LD website link was given to me by MAL: http://www.2ld.info/
and... 2LD is my company. im putting my time and effort into organizing and running. figured hell why not.
we've had some issues with website developer, so the website is down atm. but @follow2LD and fb/2ld u can find out about.
phs and dsp... kept on saying ya we'll send u 30 sec ad clip so u can run in between matches.
received none so far and they are always working on it.
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i am trying to get to bottom of the situation with my sole monetary sponsor PHS company. i will make another announcement once ive collected enough data/evidence that they were/werent part of the situation. thank you for your patience.
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Great work to those investigating this!
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Thank you for investigating.
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I can't find Vods of the group stages on twitch, would have loved to see some of the games.
Will there be Vods of the survival rounds/playoffs?
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Taeja v. TRUE is on right now. Quality stuff.
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Somehow whenever I see Taeja recently + Show Spoiler +he gets rekt. 2:0 for True.
Sad this isn't on calendar, high quality stuff indeed.
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I guess the calendar rules prevent it because there's no prize money atm
Exception should have been made imo.
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TRUE might have had a lot of zerglings but not enough soul
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What happened to the best Terran of 2014?
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How does Parting do it sometimes?
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BigBoy vs Creator in the finals?
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So grateful Parting decided to end the game instead of going tempest and dragging it on forever... and Creator beat Journey, right? What is this; WCS 2012?
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Saved us from a tempest swarmhost game...
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On February 15 2015 20:19 Liliputin wrote:
BigBoy vs Creator in the finals?
Time for revenge
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Journey vs Creator was already played? What was the score?
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PvP finals, truly a Yeonsu era tournament
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On February 15 2015 20:22 Lorning wrote:Time for revenge
I like Parting, but Creator is my one and only Protoss!
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Wait what happened to the Journey vs Creator game?
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I miss Yeonsu just for that cannon rush spot.
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On February 15 2015 21:08 Lorning wrote:
YEEEEEEEEES
No prizepool right ?
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On February 15 2015 21:08 Aeromi wrote:No prizepool right ?
Win is a win
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Haha that first taeja vs true game was hilarious.
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I feel so bad for Creator, he gets a tournament win after how long and it's worth no money... Prime players cant' catch a break.
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On February 16 2015 02:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I feel so bad for Creator, he gets a tournament win after how long and it's worth no money... Prime players cant' catch a break.
Hey, at least he won.
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