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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 07:10:37
January 31 2015 07:09 GMT
#1121
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:58 Spiller wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO made a zealot at the beginning of the game I think it would be a lot closer.


The zealot is the theoretically worse choice, but considering how this went I can't see it going worse.

well i think it woulda helped against the scv's pushing the stalker back that did no damage. the zealot could do some nice zoning while the stalker and MSC could start picking shit off.


Yeah, but it basically guarantees a potential reaper slaughters you, while in theory you should be able to defend it with a stalker.

And wtf ToD. Proxy has nothing to do with proximity, it originates from the word procurator.


Definition of PROCURATOR
1
: one that manages another's affairs : agent
2
: an officer of the Roman empire entrusted with management of the financial affairs of a province and often having administrative powers as agent of the emperor

That doesn't sound right at all, please explain how that would be the origin of proxy.


You don't build your units at home, you have them built at a substitute location i.e by proxy. And the word proxy usually includes an agent i.e a procurator that is substituted for you. Its all etymology.


Actually yes, proxy comes from procurator and like many words the latin proxy later became the english proximity.


I don't think they have a common origin tbh. Proximity comes from 'proximus' which is 'nearest' in Latin, while 'proxy' is a contraction of 'procuracy', which comes from the verb 'procurare' which is to take care of.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2015 07:09 GMT
#1122
Hoping for Rain to beat Soulkey because even when Maru has looked like he was in better form he still finds ways to lose to Soulkey (his worst opponent all time head to head by map differential -9). Feels like he just flops when he goes against Soulkey
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 31 2015 07:10 GMT
#1123
Maru did beat Soulkey last time, but Soulkey was going downhill at that point.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 31 2015 07:11 GMT
#1124
On January 31 2015 16:09 Shellshock wrote:
Hoping for Rain to beat Soulkey because even when Maru has looked like he was in better form he still finds ways to lose to Soulkey (his worst opponent all time head to head by map differential -9). Feels like he just flops when he goes against Soulkey

he killed soulkey in his only good gsl run of 2014 and he probably coulda made the finals that season.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 31 2015 07:11 GMT
#1125
On January 31 2015 16:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

that escalated quickly


were we not sharing our feelings?
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 31 2015 07:11 GMT
#1126
if herO won that and Rain wins his game we woulda have had all 4 of the invited players making it.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
January 31 2015 07:12 GMT
#1127
On January 31 2015 16:01 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:56 BronzeKnee wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 BronzeKnee wrote:
I dont know why they keep saying Hero is the favorite, Maru rules, no one gives him respect, I loved it when he beat Innovation and Rain.


I take it you weren't there yesterday.

(or almost ever)


I didn't see his games yesterday, but Maru is one player you don't pick against.


Wasn't talking about his games, was talking about the "no one gives him respect". Few people are praised more than Maru...

yeah i find that maru gets an absurd amount of praise considering his results. don't get me wrong he's a really impressive player but I think people overplay that sometimes.


I think it is because stuff like micro is easy to see whereas mechanics like macro and decision making are much less so. And he certainly highlights sick micro
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
January 31 2015 07:13 GMT
#1128
On January 31 2015 16:09 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

that escalated quickly


Inb4 somebody post "I miss my parents"


I think you're a bit late on that one.

On January 31 2015 16:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

I miss when my parents were around to say anything to me
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
January 31 2015 07:14 GMT
#1129
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:58 Spiller wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO made a zealot at the beginning of the game I think it would be a lot closer.


The zealot is the theoretically worse choice, but considering how this went I can't see it going worse.

well i think it woulda helped against the scv's pushing the stalker back that did no damage. the zealot could do some nice zoning while the stalker and MSC could start picking shit off.


Yeah, but it basically guarantees a potential reaper slaughters you, while in theory you should be able to defend it with a stalker.

And wtf ToD. Proxy has nothing to do with proximity, it originates from the word procurator.


Definition of PROCURATOR
1
: one that manages another's affairs : agent
2
: an officer of the Roman empire entrusted with management of the financial affairs of a province and often having administrative powers as agent of the emperor

That doesn't sound right at all, please explain how that would be the origin of proxy.


You don't build your units at home, you have them built at a substitute location i.e by proxy. And the word proxy usually includes an agent i.e a procurator that is substituted for you. Its all etymology.


Actually yes, proxy comes from procurator and like many words the latin proxy later became the english proximity.


Doesn't look like your right : proximity would come from latin proximus http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proximity#Etymology
and proximus from prope : http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proximus#Etymology
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 07:15:55
January 31 2015 07:14 GMT
#1130
On January 31 2015 16:13 Roadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:09 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

that escalated quickly


Inb4 somebody post "I miss my parents"


I think you're a bit late on that one.

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

I miss when my parents were around to say anything to me


I need to hone my F5 skills

On January 31 2015 16:14 10bulgares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:58 Spiller wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO made a zealot at the beginning of the game I think it would be a lot closer.


The zealot is the theoretically worse choice, but considering how this went I can't see it going worse.

well i think it woulda helped against the scv's pushing the stalker back that did no damage. the zealot could do some nice zoning while the stalker and MSC could start picking shit off.


Yeah, but it basically guarantees a potential reaper slaughters you, while in theory you should be able to defend it with a stalker.

And wtf ToD. Proxy has nothing to do with proximity, it originates from the word procurator.


Definition of PROCURATOR
1
: one that manages another's affairs : agent
2
: an officer of the Roman empire entrusted with management of the financial affairs of a province and often having administrative powers as agent of the emperor

That doesn't sound right at all, please explain how that would be the origin of proxy.


You don't build your units at home, you have them built at a substitute location i.e by proxy. And the word proxy usually includes an agent i.e a procurator that is substituted for you. Its all etymology.


Actually yes, proxy comes from procurator and like many words the latin proxy later became the english proximity.


Doesn't look like your right : proximity would come from latin proximus http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proximity#Etymology
and proximus from prope : http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proximus#Etymology


OK OK I get no need to post the same thing 10 different times
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 31 2015 07:15 GMT
#1131
On January 31 2015 16:11 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO won that and Rain wins his game we woulda have had all 4 of the invited players making it.


now we have nepotism in the upper bracket with meritocracy ready to fight the winner between favoritism and hard work
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 31 2015 07:15 GMT
#1132
On January 31 2015 16:13 Roadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:09 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

that escalated quickly


Inb4 somebody post "I miss my parents"


I think you're a bit late on that one.

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

I miss when my parents were around to say anything to me


Yup, I never miss a beat to talk about myself
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Spiller
Profile Joined September 2014
United States106 Posts
January 31 2015 07:19 GMT
#1133
On January 31 2015 16:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:58 Spiller wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO made a zealot at the beginning of the game I think it would be a lot closer.


The zealot is the theoretically worse choice, but considering how this went I can't see it going worse.

well i think it woulda helped against the scv's pushing the stalker back that did no damage. the zealot could do some nice zoning while the stalker and MSC could start picking shit off.


Yeah, but it basically guarantees a potential reaper slaughters you, while in theory you should be able to defend it with a stalker.

And wtf ToD. Proxy has nothing to do with proximity, it originates from the word procurator.


Definition of PROCURATOR
1
: one that manages another's affairs : agent
2
: an officer of the Roman empire entrusted with management of the financial affairs of a province and often having administrative powers as agent of the emperor

That doesn't sound right at all, please explain how that would be the origin of proxy.


You don't build your units at home, you have them built at a substitute location i.e by proxy. And the word proxy usually includes an agent i.e a procurator that is substituted for you. Its all etymology.


Actually yes, proxy comes from procurator and like many words the latin proxy later became the english proximity.


I don't think they have a common origin tbh. Proximity comes from 'proximus' which is 'nearest' in Latin, while 'proxy' is a contraction of 'procuracy', which comes from the verb 'procurare' which is to take care of.


Yes, the original word proxy comes from procurator, but I think in terms of SC2 and RTS the word more closely relates to proximity than to the actual definition of proxy. It seems more like a case of gamers coming up with their own lingo/being lazy and just shortening "proximity gateway" to "proxy gateway" rather than calling it that because you are building your units through a substitute location. But who knows for sure.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 31 2015 07:20 GMT
#1134
Oh well, Hot6ix Cup 2013 rematch hype!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 31 2015 07:21 GMT
#1135
Soulkey about to spank Rain
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 31 2015 07:21 GMT
#1136
"He even lost to Oz" Soulkey vs "I haven't lost to Oz since 2013" Rain
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 31 2015 07:21 GMT
#1137
god casters please learn that life also did it ;-;
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
January 31 2015 07:21 GMT
#1138
On January 31 2015 16:14 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:13 Roadog wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:09 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

that escalated quickly


Inb4 somebody post "I miss my parents"


I think you're a bit late on that one.

On January 31 2015 16:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:07 Larkin wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lorning wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:05 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 stuchiu wrote:
Khaldor is the best, he even read my joke on cast.


I miss Khaldor and his Orange juice.

I miss summoning Khaldor to LR threads during GSTL


I miss when my parents used to tell me they loved me

I miss when my parents were around to say anything to me


I need to hone my F5 skills

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:14 10bulgares wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:58 Spiller wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO made a zealot at the beginning of the game I think it would be a lot closer.


The zealot is the theoretically worse choice, but considering how this went I can't see it going worse.

well i think it woulda helped against the scv's pushing the stalker back that did no damage. the zealot could do some nice zoning while the stalker and MSC could start picking shit off.


Yeah, but it basically guarantees a potential reaper slaughters you, while in theory you should be able to defend it with a stalker.

And wtf ToD. Proxy has nothing to do with proximity, it originates from the word procurator.


Definition of PROCURATOR
1
: one that manages another's affairs : agent
2
: an officer of the Roman empire entrusted with management of the financial affairs of a province and often having administrative powers as agent of the emperor

That doesn't sound right at all, please explain how that would be the origin of proxy.


You don't build your units at home, you have them built at a substitute location i.e by proxy. And the word proxy usually includes an agent i.e a procurator that is substituted for you. Its all etymology.


Actually yes, proxy comes from procurator and like many words the latin proxy later became the english proximity.


Doesn't look like your right : proximity would come from latin proximus http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proximity#Etymology
and proximus from prope : http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proximus#Etymology


OK OK I get no need to post the same thing 10 different times


I might quote you on this one:
On January 31 2015 16:14 Lexender wrote:

I need to hone my F5 skills


10bulgares
Profile Joined September 2013
352 Posts
January 31 2015 07:23 GMT
#1139
On January 31 2015 16:19 Spiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 16:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:06 Lexender wrote:
On January 31 2015 16:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:58 Spiller wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 31 2015 15:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
if herO made a zealot at the beginning of the game I think it would be a lot closer.


The zealot is the theoretically worse choice, but considering how this went I can't see it going worse.

well i think it woulda helped against the scv's pushing the stalker back that did no damage. the zealot could do some nice zoning while the stalker and MSC could start picking shit off.


Yeah, but it basically guarantees a potential reaper slaughters you, while in theory you should be able to defend it with a stalker.

And wtf ToD. Proxy has nothing to do with proximity, it originates from the word procurator.


Definition of PROCURATOR
1
: one that manages another's affairs : agent
2
: an officer of the Roman empire entrusted with management of the financial affairs of a province and often having administrative powers as agent of the emperor

That doesn't sound right at all, please explain how that would be the origin of proxy.


You don't build your units at home, you have them built at a substitute location i.e by proxy. And the word proxy usually includes an agent i.e a procurator that is substituted for you. Its all etymology.


Actually yes, proxy comes from procurator and like many words the latin proxy later became the english proximity.


I don't think they have a common origin tbh. Proximity comes from 'proximus' which is 'nearest' in Latin, while 'proxy' is a contraction of 'procuracy', which comes from the verb 'procurare' which is to take care of.


Yes, the original word proxy comes from procurator, but I think in terms of SC2 and RTS the word more closely relates to proximity than to the actual definition of proxy. It seems more like a case of gamers coming up with their own lingo/being lazy and just shortening "proximity gateway" to "proxy gateway" rather than calling it that because you are building your units through a substitute location. But who knows for sure.


There are cases though where the proxy is not really in proximity of the opponent (like proxy dark shrine).
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 31 2015 07:25 GMT
#1140
rain is exciting to watch cause he's a god redeye
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
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