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This thread is for the WCS games and not for other purposes. Shit-posting will not be tolerated. (07:57 KST)
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 13 2015 22:50 GMT
#821
On January 14 2015 07:49 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:47 Aeromi wrote:
Do not start any talks about Charlie Hebdo on this thread.


who are you?

Uh oh..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 13 2015 22:50 GMT
#822
On January 14 2015 07:46 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:44 Paljas wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:39 Musicus wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:37 Everlong wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:36 Undead1993 wrote:
what's actually happening now? why are they not starting the second game


Lillekanin is talking to Graham and admins about his disqualification, he broke some rule apparently.


Pretty sure there is a general rule about conducting yourself in a correct manner that they can enforce whenever they see it fit. And I definitely think this time it would be ok, with the recent events that remark was just too stupid. Don't joke about terrorism.

Terrorist attack on a satire magazine? Better start to ban jokes.

Like, really?

A salty comment about blowing up units because of playing a lost game is not exactly the definition of "joke". You cannot say anything and hide it between "lol jk"

I didnt call anything a joke, but responded to the comment "Don't joke about terrorism".

But TheDwf is right, this qualifier is already a clusterfuck, no need to discuss this here.

A bit of drama can be nice, but now it just gets annoying, and people forget about the game and it qualities
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duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
January 13 2015 22:50 GMT
#823
Lets be honest, no1 actually cared about his terrorist joke. He is being removed for his toxic gameplay. Personally I dont think he should be dq'ed, but oh well.
ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#824
On January 14 2015 07:43 algue wrote:
Good thing Lillekanin isn't a very well known player. The admin wouldn't take the risk of ruining the show by DQ'ing a star for this kind of behavior.


True, if I am not mistaken Naniwa did not even get a warning for saying "fuck Russians";

btw. I dont think Lillekanin should get DQed for this, he was obviously joking and not thinking of what happened in France; I think blizzard/ESL should not be allowed to decide which jokes are okay and which aren't as long as they are not directly offending anyone...

Actually it's still okay that Lillekanin gets banned: He was NOT in DND-mode and he read streamchat and checked twitter during the game...
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 22:51:24
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#825
On January 14 2015 07:48 boxerfred wrote:
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On January 14 2015 07:47 Nebuchad wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:46 Sent. wrote:
I don't think it's enough for DQ. If they do decide to disqualify him it won't be baseless to say that admins used that rule as an excuse to get rid of Lilekanin and his playstyle.


I have to agree there.

The rulebook also says that WCS admin can pretty much do whatever they want if it comes down to a special kind of decision. Technically, they're correct with whatever they do.


yeah and he said on stream something along the lines of:
"I don't care who hates me for this, I can do whatever I want and noone can stop me. Not the admins, not blizzard."

I think you could take that as an attack on authority and martyrism, something that even a website like Teamliquid.net immidiately punishes out of principle.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#826
On January 14 2015 07:50 SC2Toastie wrote:
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On January 14 2015 07:48 nkr wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:45 SC2Toastie wrote:
DQ for that comment would be stupid.


Eh? That was the most racist thing I've seen in a sc2 game since orbs "dumb n**** risk". I'd rate it even worse tbh.

Equating the muslamic jihad with terrorism is so fucking dumb.

Dude that is massive exaggerating. It was a really poor joke, but it's really clear the joke was made to be "funny" and not to offend a religion.

This DQ has more to do with not wanting Lillekanin to play more games vs Zerg than with that comment, it's just a nice excuse.


You can't say the stupidest shit and then just write it off as a joke. There are consequences for dumb shit. In these times making that kind of joke just fuels the islamic hate and xenophobia in europe.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#827
On January 14 2015 07:49 Socke wrote:
Players shouldnt be allowed to tab out and check twitter, streamchat, mobilephone imo. afaik you can even get a penalty/loss/dq for not being busy ingame due to risk of viewers msging you, and the other stuff is much worse.


That's another good point, but then again where is the line. Sometimes you might be forced to alt tab, since you have to stop a windows update or close another program, or is putting on a new playlist okay? Kinda hard to manage a rule like that.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#828
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#829
On January 14 2015 07:50 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:49 Aeromi wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:49 atrox_ wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:47 Aeromi wrote:
Do not start any talks about Charlie Hebdo on this thread.


who are you?

TL staff.

Btw, how does one become TL staff? I wouldn't be opposed to the thought of having a hammer either at times.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#830
On January 14 2015 07:50 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:48 nkr wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:45 SC2Toastie wrote:
DQ for that comment would be stupid.


Eh? That was the most racist thing I've seen in a sc2 game since orbs "dumb n**** risk". I'd rate it even worse tbh.

Equating the muslamic jihad with terrorism is so fucking dumb.

Dude that is massive exaggerating. It was a really poor joke, but it's really clear the joke was made to be "funny" and not to offend a religion.

This DQ has more to do with not wanting Lillekanin to play more games vs Zerg than with that comment, it's just a nice excuse.

There's plenty of reasons to DQ him. From racist comment to checking Facebook and Twitter during the game to prolonging a game in a way that is in no way a show of any kind of sportsmanship at all.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#831
On January 14 2015 07:50 BlackCompany wrote:
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On January 14 2015 07:49 Aeromi wrote:
https://twitter.com/pLineFireCake/status/555134612267999234


Wow that second game just started


Firecake has been in a perpetual time vortex since his game vs Mana. He's on a different timeline than us.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#832
On January 14 2015 07:51 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:50 Aeromi wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:49 Aeromi wrote:
https://twitter.com/pLineFireCake/status/555134612267999234

On January 14 2015 07:49 atrox_ wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:47 Aeromi wrote:
Do not start any talks about Charlie Hebdo on this thread.


who are you?

TL staff.

Btw, how does one become TL staff? I wouldn't be opposed to the thought of having a hammer either at times.

Contribute a lot!
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#833
On January 14 2015 07:50 duckk wrote:
Lets be honest, no1 actually cared about his terrorist joke. He is being removed for his toxic gameplay. Personally I dont think he should be dq'ed, but oh well.

removing people for "toxic gameplay" is super stupid.
especially if there is no definition of toxic gameplay anywhere one could follow
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#834
On January 14 2015 07:51 Aeromi wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/prOpMorroWBB2/status/555135096336818176

Hahahaha MorroW <3
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#835
On January 14 2015 07:50 duckk wrote:
Lets be honest, no1 actually cared about his terrorist joke. He is being removed for his toxic gameplay. Personally I dont think he should be dq'ed, but oh well.


Yeah, lets be honest. And while we are at it lets not think our opinion is the one and only. I didnt mind that long game, i think it was kind of funny. However, the ending was just so inapropriate.
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#836
On January 14 2015 07:47 Circumstance wrote:
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On January 14 2015 07:44 Circumstance wrote:
I just wanna take a moment to appreciate Pughy. He's never the main stream for a tournament. He never has a large number of viewers. His own tournament series, with some absolute top-level players competing in it, didn't get the views it deserved. He's always pretty much been overlooked. But with a perseverance that's true to his form, he stuck to it, and he just solo casted the longest game in esports history. Solo casted. No partner to help him rest his vocal cords or banter off of. Madals and Pengwin had each other for FireCake vs. Mana. Wolf and Valdes had each other for Reality vs Soulkey. I don't remember who did Stephano vs Petraeus, but that wasn't a solo-cast either, and they even had a live audience to interact with. Pughy just did that on his OWN. This man is the hero Starcraft 2 needs.

I wanna clarify, BTW: The people who casted those other ridiculously long games are to e commended for holding out as long as they did as well, since it wasn't anything close to being easy for any of them. But Pughy just went above and beyond, man.

You gotta love those indie casters, some talented, some not, but always there, trying their best. No e-sport without them. And yes - quite an amazing feat by Pughy.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#837
On January 14 2015 07:50 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:48 nkr wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:45 SC2Toastie wrote:
DQ for that comment would be stupid.


Eh? That was the most racist thing I've seen in a sc2 game since orbs "dumb n**** risk". I'd rate it even worse tbh.

Equating the muslamic jihad with terrorism is so fucking dumb.

Dude that is massive exaggerating. It was a really poor joke, but it's really clear the joke was made to be "funny" and not to offend a religion.

This DQ has more to do with not wanting Lillekanin to play more games vs Zerg than with that comment, it's just a nice excuse.


What the hell dude. whats wrong with making fun of a fairytale? Everyone is going full retard now. From now on my religion is called "IM A BIG ASSHOLE ON THE INTERNET". Don't offend me please.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#838
Yes, we can go dig for mistakes he made, sure.

Point is, Lillekanin is getting DQ'd primarily for his playstyle, not because of things he did/said
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
January 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#839



Here comes the QQ
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#840
On January 14 2015 07:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 07:51 Xoronius wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:50 Aeromi wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:49 Aeromi wrote:
https://twitter.com/pLineFireCake/status/555134612267999234

On January 14 2015 07:49 atrox_ wrote:
On January 14 2015 07:47 Aeromi wrote:
Do not start any talks about Charlie Hebdo on this thread.


who are you?

TL staff.

Btw, how does one become TL staff? I wouldn't be opposed to the thought of having a hammer either at times.

Contribute a lot!

Does spending too much time on here count as "contributing"?
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