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Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 09:53:17
January 13 2015 09:50 GMT
#1
Bacon Infinity (@Bacon_Infinity) presents the first episode in a new series where you get to play against the pros! Sign up now to play with a friend in LotV Fan Alpha Archon Mode against ROOT Gaming's (Wiki)Hydra.

Sign ups can be done by POSTING ON THIS THREAD or EMAILING your information to bacon.infinity.gaming@gmail.com
Please include your Battletag


Late signups will be available by joining the in game Group "Play with the Pros" and checking in with an officer.

If you don't have a friend to play with then don't worry! Just post here, e-mail your information, or show up in the group chat and we will match you up with a partner!

The Event will begin at Sunday, Jan 25 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) and will be hosted at http://www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity

GLHF!

Rules and Regulations

- All Games will be played on the North American server
- No Barcodes. All players must be using an identifiable Battletag
- Log on to battle.net at least 10 minutes before starting time to check in. Late check ins will result in disqualification
- Don't be an idiot. Any player who broadcasts vulgar, racist, sexist or any other speech deemed offensive by the event administration will be disqualified and will forfeit their ability to play in future events
- Bacon StarCraft has a zero tolerance for cheating policy. Any player found to be using unauthorized software to gain an advantage will be disqualified and will forfeit their ability to play in future events
- We reserve the right to remove any player from the event for any reason we see fit

All rules and regulations are subject to change without warning

Follow @Bacon_Infinity on Twitter or Twitch for news and updates on future events!
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 13 2015 10:37 GMT
#2
oh dang, another one of these so quick. let's hope for a better turnout this time
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 13 2015 10:38 GMT
#3
Hopefully a few more good players show up this time!
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 11:10:50
January 13 2015 11:09 GMT
#4
I find this a very nice idea. Was thinking of the same thing last year, a sort of progamer+fan interaction , albeit not archon mode since there isn't an official test version, but anything like this is excellent.
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Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 13 2015 18:34 GMT
#5
Yeah we're advertising as much as possible to try and get a good turnout, and happy birthday Templar!

@xtorn I'm glad you like the idea, we were hoping to create a fun bit of fan/pro interaction but we may need to tweak it a bit because the last few episodes (especially the PartinG one) consisted of the pro gamer continuously beating up on the fans
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 13 2015 18:35 GMT
#6
On January 14 2015 03:34 Bacon_Infinity wrote:
Yeah we're advertising as much as possible to try and get a good turnout, and happy birthday Templar!

@xtorn I'm glad you like the idea, we were hoping to create a fun bit of fan/pro interaction but we may need to tweak it a bit because the last few episodes (especially the PartinG one) consisted of the pro gamer continuously beating up on the fans


We were 3-1 damn it!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 13 2015 18:37 GMT
#7
We could have 2v1s in LotV, or even 3v1s. The problem with archon mode is that 2 normal people with 120 APM will still be way, way worse than a pro with 240 APM even if they aren't duplicating anything the pro is doing.
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Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 13 2015 19:07 GMT
#8
On January 14 2015 03:37 The_Templar wrote:
We could have 2v1s in LotV, or even 3v1s. The problem with archon mode is that 2 normal people with 120 APM will still be way, way worse than a pro with 240 APM even if they aren't duplicating anything the pro is doing.


We could try this for sure. I'm not sure if it would be the way to go about it because "Turtle to 400 supply" could either make the least exciting games ever or it could be the win condition that the amateur team needs to make this possible. It is definitely worth trying though.
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 18:40:06
January 14 2015 18:37 GMT
#9
Great initiative, hope the turnout is good! This reminds me of the old-school TL Attack shows where fans got to play against their fav pros.

On January 14 2015 03:37 The_Templar wrote:
We could have 2v1s in LotV, or even 3v1s. The problem with archon mode is that 2 normal people with 120 APM will still be way, way worse than a pro with 240 APM even if they aren't duplicating anything the pro is doing.


This is true, but isn't this more of a "lets have fun" type game rather than "lets make it fair/balanced".
Tbh, if you got 2 diamond+ players (and they were friends/on skype), it could possibly be a decent challenge for the pro. Especially in very micro focused matchups or situations.

Example: Doing reaper/hellion + banshee harass while having to macro up/switch addons/build additional infrastructure in TvZ.
It can still be difficult do something like that near perfectly (even players like Taeja/Polt float ~400-600mins at times when microing intensively in the midgame) and if you have players that know what they SHOULD be doing, having 2 people can really help.

One player could constantly be doing that 2 medivac timing, snipe banelings, push creep, load and retreat when lings come (pre-muta) while the other player macros. It gets even harder when its 3v1, because if you kept your hellions (in some cases banshees too) alive, the third player can constantly be harassing queens and the 3rd/4th base, all while the first player macros and focuses on the base.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
January 14 2015 22:41 GMT
#10
Ok I should be in this one
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Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 04:09:03
January 15 2015 04:07 GMT
#11
On January 15 2015 03:37 joshie0808 wrote:
Great initiative, hope the turnout is good! This reminds me of the old-school TL Attack shows where fans got to play against their fav pros.

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 03:37 The_Templar wrote:
We could have 2v1s in LotV, or even 3v1s. The problem with archon mode is that 2 normal people with 120 APM will still be way, way worse than a pro with 240 APM even if they aren't duplicating anything the pro is doing.


This is true, but isn't this more of a "lets have fun" type game rather than "lets make it fair/balanced".
Tbh, if you got 2 diamond+ players (and they were friends/on skype), it could possibly be a decent challenge for the pro. Especially in very micro focused matchups or situations.

Example: Doing reaper/hellion + banshee harass while having to macro up/switch addons/build additional infrastructure in TvZ.
It can still be difficult do something like that near perfectly (even players like Taeja/Polt float ~400-600mins at times when microing intensively in the midgame) and if you have players that know what they SHOULD be doing, having 2 people can really help.

One player could constantly be doing that 2 medivac timing, snipe banelings, push creep, load and retreat when lings come (pre-muta) while the other player macros. It gets even harder when its 3v1, because if you kept your hellions (in some cases banshees too) alive, the third player can constantly be harassing queens and the 3rd/4th base, all while the first player macros and focuses on the base.


We're glad you like the idea of the project you should play in the event, new participants are always welcome.

It's possible that the problem with our archon teams being beat up on so hard is that strategies and tactics for archon mode havent been fully fleshed out yet. A common issue in episode 2 was that most of the games ended before actually getting to a point where the multitasking ability of archon mode was advantageous.

If our players can get to the mid and game then it could definitely create an interesting match, especially if our archons use a strategy that relies on things like multipronged drops and harassment.

So once again, all new participants are welcome. We would love to see some great games

And @cricketeer, we look forward to seeing you at the next show
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 15 2015 04:14 GMT
#12
See, the problem is me and Templar have done most of the playing, and me and Templar are both quite bad at the game. We can't play one aspect of the game as well as a pro can play all at the same time, even if we can focus on it. You just need better players, that's all.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 15 2015 04:23 GMT
#13
On January 15 2015 13:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
See, the problem is me and Templar have done most of the playing, and me and Templar are both quite bad at the game. We can't play one aspect of the game as well as a pro can play all at the same time, even if we can focus on it. You just need better players, that's all.


Excuse me but you have a 3-1 record vs PartinG!

But in all seriousness, we did have that one grandmaster last show and that didn't exactly go fantastically. I think another problem is that it's very difficult to have people who are
1. Good
2. Playing the same race
3. Available during the time of our show

It would be interesting if we could find a way to do a 1v1 match against the pro but that would be a totally different series and we would have to find a new way to handicap the pro
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 15 2015 22:20 GMT
#14
I'd be willing to do this as a Terran or Zerg. I'm high diamond / low masters with zerg, and diamond with terran.

Battletag ID:
Yay4sean #1774
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 15 2015 23:03 GMT
#15
On January 15 2015 13:07 Bacon_Infinity wrote:
We're glad you like the idea of the project you should play in the event, new participants are always welcome.


I am thinking about it haha.. Saturdays I'm usually out but maybe I'll make an exception. Asking my 2v2 friend if he is able to participate too.

Are sign-ups still open?
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
January 15 2015 23:41 GMT
#16
I'm going to keep trying to actually be at my computer when this happens :L
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Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 00:00:45
January 15 2015 23:59 GMT
#17
Thanks for the signup blargh feel free to bring your friends.

And joshie, our registration at the moment is not incredibly necessary, the event is still gaining momentum and we have been able to accomidate all people who want to play, even if they show up half way through the show. What signing up does for you is give you preferential scheduling incase the event does get ppopular and we have a surpluss of volunteers. As a general rule we take signups up to and including the day of the event

Edit: thanks for the signup banjo, I think I still have you added from last time
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 16 2015 02:24 GMT
#18
Hi Bacon, I sent you a PM with my signup! Thanks for hosting again
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
January 16 2015 02:41 GMT
#19
Just an idea to pay back Parting: on april fools get two pros that pretend they're in bronze league to go up against him. Funny if he wins, funny if he loses.
why?
Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 16 2015 03:27 GMT
#20
On January 16 2015 11:41 caznitch wrote:
Just an idea to pay back Parting: on april fools get two pros that pretend they're in bronze league to go up against him. Funny if he wins, funny if he loses.


This is a great idea :p
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
January 16 2015 16:38 GMT
#21
Is there room for obs?
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Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 16 2015 18:02 GMT
#22
im pretty sure we have filled the lobby with a whole team of people who tried to take on the pro so we can't guarantee that there will be room for obs, we broadcast all the games though if you want to watch
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
cellariumostium
Profile Joined December 2014
5 Posts
January 21 2015 17:37 GMT
#23
Excited to see people battle ROOT Hydra! Gonna try to get some friends to sign up!
Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 24 2015 08:20 GMT
#24
On January 22 2015 02:37 cellariumostium wrote:
Excited to see people battle ROOT Hydra! Gonna try to get some friends to sign up!


Thanks! See you tomorrow!
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 24 2015 09:53 GMT
#25
pretty excited for this tomorrow, also excited to hear the full annoucement these guys have in store
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Bacon_Infinity
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada212 Posts
January 24 2015 21:58 GMT
#26
in our opinion the announcement will be great we hope you all enjoy it too
www.twitch.tv/bacon_infinity @Bacon_Infinity
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 25 2015 03:49 GMT
#27
Everyone come play! Need more participants =)

Thanks Hydra for playing this show with us
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 25 2015 03:49 GMT
#28
I have a lot of stuff to do tonight, don't think I will make it :\
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
January 25 2015 03:52 GMT
#29
I will give it a try, I played 1 game in the first one (vs SuperNova) and it was fun, but it was impossible to get anything done lol
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 25 2015 04:01 GMT
#30
On January 25 2015 12:49 The_Templar wrote:
I have a lot of stuff to do tonight, don't think I will make it :\

No passion.

When 3 of us tried, we were able to defeat the Hydra. We were like "Let our powers combine!" followed by a "Go Planet!" and beat him using marine marauder hellion banshee!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 25 2015 04:03 GMT
#31
On January 25 2015 13:01 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 12:49 The_Templar wrote:
I have a lot of stuff to do tonight, don't think I will make it :\

No passion.

When 3 of us tried, we were able to defeat the Hydra. We were like "Let our powers combine!" followed by a "Go Planet!" and beat him using marine marauder hellion banshee!

When 3 people including me tried, someone ended up screwing the other two over.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-25 04:50:50
January 25 2015 04:14 GMT
#32
On January 25 2015 13:03 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 13:01 Blargh wrote:
On January 25 2015 12:49 The_Templar wrote:
I have a lot of stuff to do tonight, don't think I will make it :\

No passion.

When 3 of us tried, we were able to defeat the Hydra. We were like "Let our powers combine!" followed by a "Go Planet!" and beat him using marine marauder hellion banshee!

When 3 people including me tried, someone ended up screwing the other two over.

It was Terran versus Zerg. I just handled the banshees, while one guy macro'd and the other controlled main army.

Well thanks for the games Bacon & Hydra!! I'm glad we got a win in there! Lots of fun. I wonder who the next guest will be, because it's hard to get much cooler than Hydra!
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 25 2015 05:08 GMT
#33
On January 25 2015 13:14 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 13:03 The_Templar wrote:
On January 25 2015 13:01 Blargh wrote:
On January 25 2015 12:49 The_Templar wrote:
I have a lot of stuff to do tonight, don't think I will make it :\

No passion.

When 3 of us tried, we were able to defeat the Hydra. We were like "Let our powers combine!" followed by a "Go Planet!" and beat him using marine marauder hellion banshee!

When 3 people including me tried, someone ended up screwing the other two over.

It was Terran versus Zerg. I just handled the banshees, while one guy macro'd and the other controlled main army.

Well thanks for the games Bacon & Hydra!! I'm glad we got a win in there! Lots of fun. I wonder who the next guest will be, because it's hard to get much cooler than Hydra!


I think it is MC next show!
I assume you were luceta? Good games! Was fun playing with you! We had awesome teamwork I felt.
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