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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 13 2015 11:42 GMT
#421
On January 13 2015 20:41 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:40 The_Templar wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:39 Ctesias wrote:
To think that a ZvZ was the best game of the series.

Good thing KT will save us.

The games will all be one-sided. -_-

We will see Flash win. That is enough.

Did you not see Bravo's TvT in Week 1?
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7165 Posts
January 13 2015 11:43 GMT
#422
On January 13 2015 20:41 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:36 Luolis wrote:
These kind of pushes make me hate TvT even more than what i do now lol.



Shame, because really it s beautifull : great micro, fast decision making & mingames gives you great sc2.

Dunno, for me TvT is holding that inevitable early aggerssion and then if i surprise playing fun marine/tank vs marine/tank, or vs mech which makes me want to slit my wrists.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 13 2015 11:43 GMT
#423
I like how the temperature at the analyzing screen must be like -10°C
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 13 2015 11:43 GMT
#424
On January 13 2015 20:42 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:41 Ctesias wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:40 The_Templar wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:39 Ctesias wrote:
To think that a ZvZ was the best game of the series.

Good thing KT will save us.

The games will all be one-sided. -_-

We will see Flash win. That is enough.

Did you not see Bravo's TvT in Week 1?

No. And I'm going full fanboy today since it's not another Flash v Z.
Flash | Mvp
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
January 13 2015 11:44 GMT
#425
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

I think 100x is quite the exaggeration since Maru won fucking OSL while on Prime.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 13 2015 11:44 GMT
#426
On January 13 2015 20:41 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:36 Luolis wrote:
These kind of pushes make me hate TvT even more than what i do now lol.



Shame, because really it s beautifull : great micro, fast decision making & mingames gives you great sc2.

yea but early-midgame tvt pushes get kind of boring as a spectator. getting a tank position ends so many games so fast, an orbital lifts and it just goes downhill
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 13 2015 11:45 GMT
#427
SAMSUNGDeadwing??
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
January 13 2015 11:46 GMT
#428
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

GERRARD USELESS? Sure m8, keep dreaming, players of a coach who sucks usually end up first in GSL, WCS, MLG...

When someone is talking shit about Gerrard, it just goes to show, how little he knows about SC2 or it is a emotional breakdown(which I think is your case)...
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 11:47:58
January 13 2015 11:46 GMT
#429
Regarding the ZvZ roach engagement and the upgrades...
Losira won due to his wider concave. With the way targeting works, the units will pick the most convenient units to attack, so if there are more clumped up units, even if everything is in range, the front line will get killed first. But, when you have all of your roaches fully concaved so that they are all next to each other (none behind each other), then the damage will be split evenly among all of the roaches, allowing for more roaches to survive and continue to do damage. Losira had a bit better of a concave, and he did not have any roaches in the choke point, whereas Byul did. So, even though he had a 1-1 upgrade lead for about 50% of the fight and a 1-0 upgrade lead for the other 50%, Losira's concave and closer reinforcements gave him the win.

But upgrades WILL win engagements when the armies are even in size and concave, and should not be ignored! But rushing upgrades is generally not cost-effective.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 13 2015 11:46 GMT
#430
On January 13 2015 20:42 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:41 Ctesias wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:40 The_Templar wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:39 Ctesias wrote:
To think that a ZvZ was the best game of the series.

Good thing KT will save us.

The games will all be one-sided. -_-

We will see Flash win. That is enough.

Did you not see Bravo's TvT in Week 1?


I felt like it was the sickest gamle getting him on FPL. Is there hope (concidering it's Flash, slumping or not)
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 13 2015 11:47 GMT
#431
On January 13 2015 20:46 Liliputin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

GERRARD USELESS? Sure m8, keep dreaming, players of a coach who sucks usually end up first in GSL, WCS, MLG...

When someone is talking shit about Gerrard, it just goes to show, how little he knows about SC2 or it is a emotional breakdown(which I think is your case)...


He thinks Gerrard is useless so you draw the conclusion that he has a emotional breakdown? Take it easy there!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3470 Posts
January 13 2015 11:47 GMT
#432
I love you bbyong! And so does my fpl!
Horang2 fan
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 13 2015 11:48 GMT
#433
MarineKing losing twice gives me some sweet sweet points from my anti-team.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
January 13 2015 11:49 GMT
#434
On January 13 2015 20:47 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:46 Liliputin wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

GERRARD USELESS? Sure m8, keep dreaming, players of a coach who sucks usually end up first in GSL, WCS, MLG...

When someone is talking shit about Gerrard, it just goes to show, how little he knows about SC2 or it is a emotional breakdown(which I think is your case)...


He thinks Gerrard is useless so you draw the conclusion that he has a emotional breakdown? Take it easy there!

Like MKP had few minutes ago, heh did not mean any worse than that
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 11:55:35
January 13 2015 11:53 GMT
#435
On January 13 2015 20:44 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

I think 100x is quite the exaggeration since Maru won fucking OSL while on Prime.


True but i would safely say imo then he is way better player than he ever was on Prime and he has Jin Air to thank for that.

On January 13 2015 20:46 Liliputin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

GERRARD USELESS? Sure m8, keep dreaming, players of a coach who sucks usually end up first in GSL, WCS, MLG...

When someone is talking shit about Gerrard, it just goes to show, how little he knows about SC2 or it is a emotional breakdown(which I think is your case)...


Prime were "useful" as a team back in WoL when they actually had a squad and a team house that was competitve. For most of HOTS they have had nothing other than an insanely talented Maru carrying their flag. When he left everyone thought it was curtains.
Creator is their best player and he has not been performing in months now, but to his credit in BO1 pro league last year he was useful.

I can't think of a player that Gerrard has improved. He was supposed to fix Byun's mental state when he went into the booth super nervous years ago and couldn't. He got nervous and fluffed matches the deeper into tournaments he went. There also im sure has been interviews in which people have said Gerrard is never in the team house or something?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 13 2015 11:55 GMT
#436
On January 13 2015 20:49 Liliputin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:47 DJHelium wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:46 Liliputin wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:38 Pandemona wrote:
Alls Marine King ever needed was a good coach behind him. He had Gerrard @ prime who is useless and now he has fucking Choya TT
Maru leaves and gets like 100x better at Jin Air mainly because of he had the best Terran coach in sc2 but still. Lets give Marine King a top team at least to train in and maybe he will get good but he continues to just play the way he does and looks like he doesn't get coached properly

GERRARD USELESS? Sure m8, keep dreaming, players of a coach who sucks usually end up first in GSL, WCS, MLG...

When someone is talking shit about Gerrard, it just goes to show, how little he knows about SC2 or it is a emotional breakdown(which I think is your case)...


He thinks Gerrard is useless so you draw the conclusion that he has a emotional breakdown? Take it easy there!

Like MKP had few minutes ago, heh did not mean any worse than that


Coolio!

Abandon ship!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 12:03:33
January 13 2015 12:02 GMT
#437
"Look forward to seeing me as a player in the future as well" - Stork
I'd feel afraid for my Anti team except I think he'd lose

O, maybe I should have this in the KT vs Samsung thread now. I can't keep up ~_~
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 13 2015 12:08 GMT
#438
Bbyong I love you <3
CJ 4 - 0 now, as it should be
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Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 12:25:33
January 13 2015 12:24 GMT
#439
I can't think of a player that Gerrard has improved.


#1 Our beloved MarineKing - Gerrard took him to Prime before the second GSL, that he ended up on 2nd place... 2 MLG titles, 4 GSL finals, etc.

#2 Maru - One of the youngest players of all time in GSL competing next to his "big brother" MKP. 1 GSL title, 3x WCS 3rd-4th in WCS events.

#3 Creator - Very young player also, he is being referred as one of the best protosses of 2012. 2nd in WCS 2012, 1st in TLS

#4 ByuNjwaaa - <3, 2x 3rd-4th GSL

ALL of these players were nothing before they came to Prime, and spend quite some time in there and got better.
I am not saying that Prime is the best sc2 team of all time, and everyone should praise them, but they should be respected and Gerrard especially...
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
iMOOrtal
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada144 Posts
January 13 2015 13:39 GMT
#440
On January 13 2015 08:23 TheDwf wrote:
CJ 3-2, Bbyong and one of the Protoss win


Fucking greatest prediction ever.
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