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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 07 2014 14:40 GMT
#61
Hello everyone! Any great games yesterday?
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 07 2014 14:40 GMT
#62
I just watched Rain vs TRUE, damn. Incredibly high level series.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 07 2014 14:40 GMT
#63
All planned so you have to watch the restream. TL was bought to not have it in their event list !
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 14:46:15
December 07 2014 14:42 GMT
#64
IEM San Jose has been very average for me.

>The downtime is enormous. 20 games in 10 hours, none of the games we're really long. There's probably a good 10 minutes downtime to discuss and display adds between games, let alone the time between series, having technical difficulties, long ass ad displays...
>The time is pretty poor for EU, starting earlier would net more EU viewers who cannot afford to stay op until 5 at night on mondays.
>The scheduling is terrible. As of now, we're not exactly sure when the next games start. That has been the case for the past couple of days.
>Lastly, a serious number of important games are simply not cast on the main stage, in a RO8 that is pretty terrible. Instead of that day of downtime, maybe give the players that come all the way out to San Jose and have made it past qualifiers the honor of at least playing their losers match with some flair, instead of on a pretty poorly produced B-stream.

All by all, viewer counts are low and I (and probably others with me) am not enjoying this tournament as much as a tournament with this stacked a line-up deserves. Which is sad.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
December 07 2014 14:43 GMT
#65
so according to the website, we wont get to see Snute, the only foreigner left, play in the quarterfinals. They will also keep dodging herOs games. WTF is up with IEM?
you no take candle
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 07 2014 14:43 GMT
#66
On December 07 2014 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I just watched Rain vs TRUE, damn. Incredibly high level series.

You can skip past the 20 minute blabla + 30 minute fixing + 30 minute bonus fixing + 20 minute blabla after Polt v Revival
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 14:44:49
December 07 2014 14:44 GMT
#67
On December 07 2014 23:43 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I just watched Rain vs TRUE, damn. Incredibly high level series.

You can skip past the 20 minute blabla + 30 minute fixing + 30 minute bonus fixing + 20 minute blabla after Polt v Revival


Oh, I'm watching on youtube! IEM is one of those awesome awesome companies that upload all their series on youtube in one video. They're by far my favorite tournament because of it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 07 2014 14:45 GMT
#68
On December 07 2014 23:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:43 SC2Toastie wrote:
On December 07 2014 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I just watched Rain vs TRUE, damn. Incredibly high level series.

You can skip past the 20 minute blabla + 30 minute fixing + 30 minute bonus fixing + 20 minute blabla after Polt v Revival


Oh, I'm watching on youtube! IEM is one of those awesome awesome companies that upload all their series on youtube in one video. They're by far my favorite tournament because of it.

I like that too, makes it easy to download them for long train rides

But still, remember to skip nearly 2 hours after Revival v Polt, as there is NOTHING happening.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
December 07 2014 14:46 GMT
#69
On December 07 2014 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 21:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I can't tell if people are trolling favoring Snute so heavily over herO, but with herO's performance I wouldn't think it would even be that close.

Probably, because Snute defeated herO twice at Toronto. I'd agree, though, Snute is not the favorite here. I wouldn't call him the underdog either, since PvZ is not really herO's best MU.

Edit: According to aligulac, PvZ is herO#s best MU. That seems very confusing to me.
That's blink all ins and immortal sentry for you :D.
Tbh don't think there are a lot of tosses that are confident in pvz.
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
December 07 2014 14:49 GMT
#70
On December 07 2014 23:46 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I can't tell if people are trolling favoring Snute so heavily over herO, but with herO's performance I wouldn't think it would even be that close.

Probably, because Snute defeated herO twice at Toronto. I'd agree, though, Snute is not the favorite here. I wouldn't call him the underdog either, since PvZ is not really herO's best MU.

Edit: According to aligulac, PvZ is herO#s best MU. That seems very confusing to me.
That's blink all ins and immortal sentry for you :D.
Tbh don't think there are a lot of tosses that are confident in pvz.

Rain?

I say his PvZ is the best in the world followed by Zest.

Preeeeettty sure they confident.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 07 2014 14:50 GMT
#71
On December 07 2014 23:49 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:46 HellHound wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I can't tell if people are trolling favoring Snute so heavily over herO, but with herO's performance I wouldn't think it would even be that close.

Probably, because Snute defeated herO twice at Toronto. I'd agree, though, Snute is not the favorite here. I wouldn't call him the underdog either, since PvZ is not really herO's best MU.

Edit: According to aligulac, PvZ is herO#s best MU. That seems very confusing to me.
That's blink all ins and immortal sentry for you :D.
Tbh don't think there are a lot of tosses that are confident in pvz.

Rain?

I say his PvZ is the best in the world followed by Zest.

Preeeeettty sure they confident.

sOs is as confident as they get yo!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
December 07 2014 14:50 GMT
#72
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?
you no take candle
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 07 2014 14:53 GMT
#73
On December 07 2014 23:50 sc2holar wrote:
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?

Nope.
But TvZ historically draws more viewers, I suppose. And there's Jaedong, Gumiho who is up and coming....

I don't know. The tournament is really oddly produced this time around.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
December 07 2014 14:54 GMT
#74
On December 07 2014 23:50 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:49 AxiomBlurr wrote:
On December 07 2014 23:46 HellHound wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I can't tell if people are trolling favoring Snute so heavily over herO, but with herO's performance I wouldn't think it would even be that close.

Probably, because Snute defeated herO twice at Toronto. I'd agree, though, Snute is not the favorite here. I wouldn't call him the underdog either, since PvZ is not really herO's best MU.

Edit: According to aligulac, PvZ is herO#s best MU. That seems very confusing to me.
That's blink all ins and immortal sentry for you :D.
Tbh don't think there are a lot of tosses that are confident in pvz.

Rain?

I say his PvZ is the best in the world followed by Zest.

Preeeeettty sure they confident.

sOs is as confident as they get yo!


sOs is such a funny character in the sc2 world. There's all these fancy protoss players going to tournaments and everybody talks about them (the Rains, Zests, Partings) while sOs doesn't travel at all and practices instead, people forget about him and then he randomly pops up and wins a huge tournament. Blizzcon, IEM Katowice, Hot6Cup.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
December 07 2014 14:56 GMT
#75
On December 07 2014 23:53 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:50 sc2holar wrote:
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?

Nope.
But TvZ historically draws more viewers, I suppose. And there's Jaedong, Gumiho who is up and coming....

I don't know. The tournament is really oddly produced this time around.

Foreigners always draws the most viewers, from my experience. Is Carmac still in charge? he has never dissapointed before, nobody has more experience in this business than that guy. whats going on?
you no take candle
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 07 2014 15:00 GMT
#76
On December 07 2014 23:56 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:53 SC2Toastie wrote:
On December 07 2014 23:50 sc2holar wrote:
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?

Nope.
But TvZ historically draws more viewers, I suppose. And there's Jaedong, Gumiho who is up and coming....

I don't know. The tournament is really oddly produced this time around.

Foreigners always draws the most viewers, from my experience. Is Carmac still in charge? he has never dissapointed before, nobody has more experience in this business than that guy. whats going on?

Jaedong is a good contender for that?
I honestly don't know. There's a ton of very odd decisions going on, and the quality of the whole tournament is flat out below the standard ESL set the last couple of years...

On December 07 2014 23:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:50 SC2Toastie wrote:
On December 07 2014 23:49 AxiomBlurr wrote:
On December 07 2014 23:46 HellHound wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On December 07 2014 21:12 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I can't tell if people are trolling favoring Snute so heavily over herO, but with herO's performance I wouldn't think it would even be that close.

Probably, because Snute defeated herO twice at Toronto. I'd agree, though, Snute is not the favorite here. I wouldn't call him the underdog either, since PvZ is not really herO's best MU.

Edit: According to aligulac, PvZ is herO#s best MU. That seems very confusing to me.
That's blink all ins and immortal sentry for you :D.
Tbh don't think there are a lot of tosses that are confident in pvz.

Rain?

I say his PvZ is the best in the world followed by Zest.

Preeeeettty sure they confident.

sOs is as confident as they get yo!


sOs is such a funny character in the sc2 world. There's all these fancy protoss players going to tournaments and everybody talks about them (the Rains, Zests, Partings) while sOs doesn't travel at all and practices instead, people forget about him and then he randomly pops up and wins a huge tournament. Blizzcon, IEM Katowice, Hot6Cup.



I love it :-)
sOs on Team Jin Air "We Don't Give A Fuck" Green Wings !
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia489 Posts
December 07 2014 15:24 GMT
#77
On December 07 2014 23:50 sc2holar wrote:
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?


Not sure what you're referring to here. Rain gets ForGG aand Snute gets herO.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 07 2014 15:25 GMT
#78
On December 08 2014 00:24 kottbullar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2014 23:50 sc2holar wrote:
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?


Not sure what you're referring to here. Rain gets ForGG aand Snute gets herO.

He means he wants to see Snute and ForGG play (vs Rain and Hero) instead of Bomber v Revival and Jaedong v Gumiho. The latter two will apparantly be broadcast on the main stage, which displeases Sc2holar and a number of others.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 15:33:21
December 07 2014 15:29 GMT
#79
On December 07 2014 23:42 SC2Toastie wrote:
IEM San Jose has been very average for me.

>The downtime is enormous. 20 games in 10 hours, none of the games we're really long. There's probably a good 10 minutes downtime to discuss and display adds between games, let alone the time between series, having technical difficulties, long ass ad displays...
>The time is pretty poor for EU, starting earlier would net more EU viewers who cannot afford to stay op until 5 at night on mondays.
>The scheduling is terrible. As of now, we're not exactly sure when the next games start. That has been the case for the past couple of days.
>Lastly, a serious number of important games are simply not cast on the main stage, in a RO8 that is pretty terrible. Instead of that day of downtime, maybe give the players that come all the way out to San Jose and have made it past qualifiers the honor of at least playing their losers match with some flair, instead of on a pretty poorly produced B-stream.

All by all, viewer counts are low and I (and probably others with me) am not enjoying this tournament as much as a tournament with this stacked a line-up deserves. Which is sad.

Well I agree mostly, but the time being poor is not a valid point. It's west coast USA, no chance for good times for EU viewers. Hope today will be better. Mostly hoping for longer and better games, so that the downtimes won't be so noticeable.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
December 07 2014 15:38 GMT
#80
On December 07 2014 23:50 sc2holar wrote:
we wont get to see Rain vs Snute or herO vs ForGG. Instead we have to settle for for two TvZs. WTF? i cant be the only one who really wants to see Snute (last foreigner) and ForGG play?


Wait, they dont show Rain vs ForGG on the mainstream? WTF, like which sense makes that?
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