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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 02 2014 13:48 GMT
#41
On November 02 2014 22:41 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:17 brickrd wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
Hm, dark tournament for any Zerg players. I'm glad it's Life who represents hope.

wasn't the best zerg representation. i'm not one of those "hurdur blizzcon sucks because it's not the 16 absolute best players" but zerg really did get a shit draw, i mean i love all 4 zergs but jaedong and hyun aren't the strongest, life is a question mark and soo didn't pull it off

i think if life can beat zest he can win the whole thing though, especially if he gets hero or classic. not calling him favored but he can do it

The truth is we don't have a lot of "strong" zerg players right now imo.
Solar is actually the only zerg that comes to mind who would have been a better candidate for this ro16, who else do we have ?

I am sad that taeja made it though, "hate" is a strong word and obviously over the top here, but i really don't like him, even if i am his biggest fan apparently

What do you mean by "strong"? I'd argue that players like Soulkey, Solar, TRUE, Action(?), DRG, Roro, Snute, and maybe ByuL have both the mechanical skill, the strategic skills and the practice environment that make them "strong". Unless you mean "super strong", but then Protoss and Terrans don't have that much super strong players either

Well i just wanted to point out that i can't think of any Zerg players who would have done better than the zerg players yesterday.
Maybe you can replace them with Solar and TRUE, but that's about it imo. (and i am not sure if that would change much)
Zerg lacks star players atm (soO, sure but he couldn't advance vs Taeja either..)
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 02 2014 13:48 GMT
#42
Why are you talking about this when Life is going to win Blizzcon?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 13:55:42
November 02 2014 13:52 GMT
#43
On November 02 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Why are you talking about this when Life is going to win Blizzcon?

I am not convinced that he can do it yet.
Life's form the last few months was up and down, so pretty hard to consider him a favorite for any match really (ok i give him the match vs San ironically)
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 13:59:06
November 02 2014 13:53 GMT
#44
On November 02 2014 22:47 The_Templar wrote:
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On November 02 2014 22:17 OtherWorld wrote:
My predictions so far have been a trainwreck, but let's do this again :
(T)Bomber < (T)MMA
(P)herO[jOin] > (P)Classic
(P)San < (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa > (T)INnoVation

(T)MMA < (P)herO[jOin]
(Z)Life < (T)TaeJa

(P)herO[jOin] > (T)TaeJa

Although this obviously won't happen, we're going to have either a shitty PvP final with Classic and San or the now classic TvT final with at most 2 good games and the other games being aggro/all-in builds worthy of PvP back in the good old mirror 4-gate times

Hey, you lost the signature bet against me yesterday. Please change your signature
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On November 02 2014 14:40 The_Templar wrote:
Hey OtherWorld, change your signature to include "TaeJa is the best player in the world. He can not be equalled by any mere mortal. TAEJA FIGHTING!!"

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 14:41 The_Templar wrote:
On November 02 2014 14:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2014 14:40 The_Templar wrote:
Hey OtherWorld, change your signature to include "TaeJa is the best player in the world. He can not be equalled by any mere mortal. TAEJA FIGHTING!!"


The sigbets are real

Oh yeah and he has to remove soO


For 1 month

Sorry I did not see it since I wasn't in the LR ! I'll change it. And I believe Dodgin has to add something to my sig too
edit : TL asks for my password and I'm on my phone, do you mind if I only change it in 3-4 hours?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 02 2014 14:02 GMT
#45
On November 02 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Why are you talking about this when Life is going to win Blizzcon?

I am not convinced that he can do it yet.
Life's form the last few months was up and down, so pretty hard to consider him a favorite for any match really (ok i give him the match vs San ironically)


I have a hunch that if Taeja makes it to the Ro4, Life will beat him. Does that make sense at all, considering how hard Taeja beat soO into the ground? Nope, not at all, but Life beating both San (who he has always struggled with) and Zest makes me feel that even if the raw skill he had in 2012 isn't there, he won't struggle as much with lackluster decision making as he has earlier this year. Obviously Taeja/Innovation are going to be insane opponents, but I'm more optimistic about that match-up (and I don't see San winning) than I was about Zest.
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kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
November 02 2014 14:05 GMT
#46
Only thing that could make this Blizzcon perfect was Polt advancing. Its OK though. All of these players are basically my favorites.

Bomber
Classic
San
Taeja

Bomber
Taeja

Taeja is your world champion! Oh the hype! A win here would make him the best SC2 player ever in my book. All those premiers + the big one before he retires. I hope he gets it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 02 2014 14:06 GMT
#47
On November 02 2014 22:39 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 22:27 Big J wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:17 brickrd wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
Hm, dark tournament for any Zerg players. I'm glad it's Life who represents hope.

wasn't the best zerg representation. i'm not one of those "hurdur blizzcon sucks because it's not the 16 absolute best players" but zerg really did get a shit draw, i mean i love all 4 zergs but jaedong and hyun aren't the strongest, life is a question mark and soo didn't pull it off

i think if life can beat zest he can win the whole thing though, especially if he gets hero or classic. not calling him favored but he can do it


They aren't worse than the likes of jjakji, San, MC, Stardust or MMA.

And it's not a draw. It's a representation of the results in this year. If no other Zerg is here, than that is because they have done even worse than Life this year. It's not a coincidence that the race that has done by far the worst this year is the worst represented.

There's much more to the state of a race than the mere amount of Premier wins it collected in a given year...


Yeah, to the state of the race, i.e. the chances to win. But when you want to measure how well a race has done, measuring how well a race has done is usually the best method. Not some discussion of how well they could have done with a little more luck. You just measure how well they actually did. And Zerg actually did by far the worst.

On November 02 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Why are you talking about this when Life is going to win Blizzcon?

I am not convinced that he can do it yet.
Life's form the last few months was up and down, so pretty hard to concider him a favorite for any match really (ok i give him the match vs San ironically)


There were ups in his play in the last months? When, where?
Isn't Life fully carried by his Ro4 GSL and that Dreamhack win, all from the start of the year?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 02 2014 14:09 GMT
#48
On November 02 2014 23:06 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 22:39 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:27 Big J wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:17 brickrd wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
Hm, dark tournament for any Zerg players. I'm glad it's Life who represents hope.

wasn't the best zerg representation. i'm not one of those "hurdur blizzcon sucks because it's not the 16 absolute best players" but zerg really did get a shit draw, i mean i love all 4 zergs but jaedong and hyun aren't the strongest, life is a question mark and soo didn't pull it off

i think if life can beat zest he can win the whole thing though, especially if he gets hero or classic. not calling him favored but he can do it


They aren't worse than the likes of jjakji, San, MC, Stardust or MMA.

And it's not a draw. It's a representation of the results in this year. If no other Zerg is here, than that is because they have done even worse than Life this year. It's not a coincidence that the race that has done by far the worst this year is the worst represented.

There's much more to the state of a race than the mere amount of Premier wins it collected in a given year...


Yeah, to the state of the race, i.e. the chances to win. But when you want to measure how well a race has done, measuring how well a race has done is usually the best method. Not some discussion of how well they could have done with a little more luck. You just measure how well they actually did. And Zerg actually did by far the worst.

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Why are you talking about this when Life is going to win Blizzcon?

I am not convinced that he can do it yet.
Life's form the last few months was up and down, so pretty hard to concider him a favorite for any match really (ok i give him the match vs San ironically)


There were ups in his play in the last months? When, where?
Isn't Life fully carried by his Ro4 GSL and that Dreamhack win, all from the start of the year?


IEM Toronto
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 02 2014 14:19 GMT
#49
Go Life! Do it for zerg!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 02 2014 15:07 GMT
#50
On November 02 2014 23:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 23:06 Big J wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:39 TheDwf wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:27 Big J wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:17 brickrd wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
Hm, dark tournament for any Zerg players. I'm glad it's Life who represents hope.

wasn't the best zerg representation. i'm not one of those "hurdur blizzcon sucks because it's not the 16 absolute best players" but zerg really did get a shit draw, i mean i love all 4 zergs but jaedong and hyun aren't the strongest, life is a question mark and soo didn't pull it off

i think if life can beat zest he can win the whole thing though, especially if he gets hero or classic. not calling him favored but he can do it


They aren't worse than the likes of jjakji, San, MC, Stardust or MMA.

And it's not a draw. It's a representation of the results in this year. If no other Zerg is here, than that is because they have done even worse than Life this year. It's not a coincidence that the race that has done by far the worst this year is the worst represented.

There's much more to the state of a race than the mere amount of Premier wins it collected in a given year...


Yeah, to the state of the race, i.e. the chances to win. But when you want to measure how well a race has done, measuring how well a race has done is usually the best method. Not some discussion of how well they could have done with a little more luck. You just measure how well they actually did. And Zerg actually did by far the worst.

On November 02 2014 22:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Why are you talking about this when Life is going to win Blizzcon?

I am not convinced that he can do it yet.
Life's form the last few months was up and down, so pretty hard to concider him a favorite for any match really (ok i give him the match vs San ironically)


There were ups in his play in the last months? When, where?
Isn't Life fully carried by his Ro4 GSL and that Dreamhack win, all from the start of the year?


IEM Toronto

It's true that up until his series against Zest he played pretty insanely at IEM Toronto
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 02 2014 15:37 GMT
#51
Does anyone know if there is any news on what the Hot6ix Cup format will be?

They said it's going to be 16 player tournament, I'm really curious if they're going to use the BlizzCon's single elimination bracket format or if there is going to be a group stage.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 02 2014 15:38 GMT
#52
how was the first day?

very happy that life won, i knew the kid could do it. sad abut soo tho
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 15:41:48
November 02 2014 15:40 GMT
#53
On November 03 2014 00:38 Paljas wrote:
how was the first day?

very happy that life won, i knew the kid could do it. sad abut soo tho


Really exciting, everyone came really well prepared, even Jaedong and MC put up a great fight, would recommend you to watch VoDs.

Especially Classic vs Polt series
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 02 2014 15:55 GMT
#54
Classic is going to win.

He is the ThorZain of our time.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 02 2014 15:57 GMT
#55
On November 03 2014 00:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Classic is going to win.

He is the ThorZain of our time.

I don't believe you, sorry

On November 03 2014 00:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
All eight of my predictions resulted in the other player winning



I hope Classic does well though
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
November 02 2014 15:59 GMT
#56
Could someone make a concise post listing all of the recommended match polls from the previous thread? The OP wasn't updated before the thread got closed and there's no way I'm sifting through 1000+ pages.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 02 2014 16:00 GMT
#57
Who is San? Some lanky protoss? LOL

Life will DESTROY San
This isn' even controversial. It's a quick and easy.
rip passion
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 16:01:38
November 02 2014 16:01 GMT
#58
On November 03 2014 00:59 juicyjames wrote:
Could someone make a concise post listing all of the recommended match polls from the previous thread? The OP wasn't updated before the thread got closed and there's no way I'm sifting through 1000+ pages.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/470332-wcs-global-finals-2014-day-1
^Try this thread, everything is in the OP
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 16:03:04
November 02 2014 16:02 GMT
#59
On November 03 2014 01:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:59 juicyjames wrote:
Could someone make a concise post listing all of the recommended match polls from the previous thread? The OP wasn't updated before the thread got closed and there's no way I'm sifting through 1000+ pages.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/470332-wcs-global-finals-2014-day-1
^Try this thread, everything is in the OP

WTF is this voodoo? I was just in a closed thread!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 02 2014 16:04 GMT
#60
On November 03 2014 01:02 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 01:01 The_Templar wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:59 juicyjames wrote:
Could someone make a concise post listing all of the recommended match polls from the previous thread? The OP wasn't updated before the thread got closed and there's no way I'm sifting through 1000+ pages.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/470332-wcs-global-finals-2014-day-1
^Try this thread, everything is in the OP

WTF is this voodoo? I was just in a closed thread!

Thread was re-made about 24 hours before the games started
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