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On October 23 2014 20:03 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Jesus, how can you get so lucky MC Rain beating herO with dts was skill but MC beating Rain is luck...? I don't even...
Did you actually watch this game or are you just arguing for the fuck of it? MC put his dark shrine right in his base while an oracle was flying around and literally the only spot in MC's base that the oracle didn't have vision of was where the dark shrine was. It was hidden in plain sight and he got incredibly lucky that Rain didn't fly his oracle there. If he does, the game is over and Rain wins. MC did NOTHING to win this game, it was all about where Rain's oracle flew in and out. Stop being silly.
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On October 23 2014 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:03 sharkie wrote:On October 23 2014 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Jesus, how can you get so lucky MC Rain beating herO with dts was skill but MC beating Rain is luck...? I don't even... Did you actually watch this game or are you just arguing for the fuck of it? MC put his dark shrine right in his base while an oracle was flying around and literally the only spot in MC's base that the oracle didn't have vision of was where the dark shrine was. It was hidden in plain sight and he got incredibly lucky that Rain didn't fly his oracle there. If he does, the game is over and Rain wins. MC did NOTHING to win this game, it was all about where Rain's oracle flew in and out. Stop being silly.
I watched this game and it was as ridicilous as the ace match between herO and Rain.
The better player lost. I just don't understand your reactions. Rain wins with dts = RAIN SO GOOD. MC wins with dts = MC so lucky. Rain did NOTHING to win the ace match either. He got lucky with dts
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Solar is so friggin good in ZvP
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haha makes the last LR posts so much funnier.
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On October 23 2014 20:15 DJHelium wrote:
Solar is so friggin good in ZvP
Solar beat Zest?
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On October 23 2014 20:10 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On October 23 2014 20:03 sharkie wrote:On October 23 2014 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Jesus, how can you get so lucky MC Rain beating herO with dts was skill but MC beating Rain is luck...? I don't even... Did you actually watch this game or are you just arguing for the fuck of it? MC put his dark shrine right in his base while an oracle was flying around and literally the only spot in MC's base that the oracle didn't have vision of was where the dark shrine was. It was hidden in plain sight and he got incredibly lucky that Rain didn't fly his oracle there. If he does, the game is over and Rain wins. MC did NOTHING to win this game, it was all about where Rain's oracle flew in and out. Stop being silly. I watched this game and it was as ridicilous as the ace match between herO and Rain. The better player lost. I just don't understand your reactions. Rain wins with dts = RAIN SO GOOD. MC wins with dts = MC so lucky. Rain did NOTHING to win the ace match either. He got lucky with dts
Rain vs herO was an entirely different game and Rain had some incredibly clutch decisions that won him the game (that snap decision to target down the nexus for example, which supply blocked herO), plus extremely good stalker control. Rain vs MC was a desperation dark shrine in plain sight that somehow didn't get scouted and turned the game completely upside down. If you actually understood what's going on then these reactions would make perfect sense to you.
Saying that Rain "got lucky with DTs vs herO" is completely wrong.
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On October 23 2014 20:16 REyeM wrote:Solar beat Zest?
G3 still going on, but he held off a 7 gate when scouting it at the very last second. In a good spot now.
edit: Zest just gives up when on 2 bases :D
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Wow, great job Solar! 
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So Zest got killed by 2 guys not at Blizzcon... np!
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Zest losing to Sora at WECG, losing to Rain and Solar here...
:/
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On October 23 2014 20:16 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:10 sharkie wrote:On October 23 2014 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On October 23 2014 20:03 sharkie wrote:On October 23 2014 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Jesus, how can you get so lucky MC Rain beating herO with dts was skill but MC beating Rain is luck...? I don't even... Did you actually watch this game or are you just arguing for the fuck of it? MC put his dark shrine right in his base while an oracle was flying around and literally the only spot in MC's base that the oracle didn't have vision of was where the dark shrine was. It was hidden in plain sight and he got incredibly lucky that Rain didn't fly his oracle there. If he does, the game is over and Rain wins. MC did NOTHING to win this game, it was all about where Rain's oracle flew in and out. Stop being silly. I watched this game and it was as ridicilous as the ace match between herO and Rain. The better player lost. I just don't understand your reactions. Rain wins with dts = RAIN SO GOOD. MC wins with dts = MC so lucky. Rain did NOTHING to win the ace match either. He got lucky with dts Rain vs herO was an entirely different game and Rain had some incredibly clutch decisions that won him the game (that snap decision to target down the nexus for example, which supply blocked herO), plus extremely good stalker control. Rain vs MC was a desperation dark shrine in plain sight that somehow didn't get scouted and turned the game completely upside down. If you actually understood what's going on then these reactions would make perfect sense to you. Saying that Rain "got lucky with DTs vs herO" is completely wrong.
Did you actually watch the herO vs Rain game?
Rain had completely botched the attack on herO, unscouted dts was the only way Rain could have won that game.
But of course for a biased person it was "extremely good stalker control" heh. Rain got lucky with dts vs herO - ask any neutral person, they will agree with me
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On October 23 2014 20:21 OtherWorld wrote:
Zest losing to Sora at WECG, losing to Rain and Solar here...
:/
Keeping his best strats for blizzcon?
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On October 23 2014 20:23 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:21 OtherWorld wrote:
Zest losing to Sora at WECG, losing to Rain and Solar here...
:/ Keeping his best strats for blizzcon?
not interested in WECG and knew he would have to give up IEM because of his hot6cup finals anyway
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On October 23 2014 20:23 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:21 OtherWorld wrote:
Zest losing to Sora at WECG, losing to Rain and Solar here...
:/ Keeping his best strats for blizzcon?
His best strat vZ is just playing rock solid macro play, so there's no point in hiding it
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On October 23 2014 20:22 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:16 DarkLordOlli wrote:On October 23 2014 20:10 sharkie wrote:On October 23 2014 20:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On October 23 2014 20:03 sharkie wrote:On October 23 2014 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Jesus, how can you get so lucky MC Rain beating herO with dts was skill but MC beating Rain is luck...? I don't even... Did you actually watch this game or are you just arguing for the fuck of it? MC put his dark shrine right in his base while an oracle was flying around and literally the only spot in MC's base that the oracle didn't have vision of was where the dark shrine was. It was hidden in plain sight and he got incredibly lucky that Rain didn't fly his oracle there. If he does, the game is over and Rain wins. MC did NOTHING to win this game, it was all about where Rain's oracle flew in and out. Stop being silly. I watched this game and it was as ridicilous as the ace match between herO and Rain. The better player lost. I just don't understand your reactions. Rain wins with dts = RAIN SO GOOD. MC wins with dts = MC so lucky. Rain did NOTHING to win the ace match either. He got lucky with dts Rain vs herO was an entirely different game and Rain had some incredibly clutch decisions that won him the game (that snap decision to target down the nexus for example, which supply blocked herO), plus extremely good stalker control. Rain vs MC was a desperation dark shrine in plain sight that somehow didn't get scouted and turned the game completely upside down. If you actually understood what's going on then these reactions would make perfect sense to you. Saying that Rain "got lucky with DTs vs herO" is completely wrong. Did you actually watch the herO vs Rain game? Rain had completely botched the attack on herO, unscouted dts was the only way Rain could have won that game. But of course for a biased person it was "extremely good stalker control" heh. Rain got lucky with dts vs herO - ask any neutral person, they will agree with me
You're wrong. He didn't "botch" the attack, herO got a great build against him. Did you expect Rain to go home and expand when it was 2base blink vs 1base blink? No. DTs were the best choice he could have made, and it's a build that's very popular in these scenarios. But since Rain kept constantly attacking in, he knew when herO skipped stalkers to get the robo (and he also suicided his MSC for the same purpose). He knew exactly where they were both at. These builds are INCREDIBLY mapped out. Since he kept warping in and attacking in, herO didn't know whether or not he could squeeze in an observer. When Rain did reveal the lower stalker count (indicating that he had resources spent elsewhere), he INSTANTLY jumped on herO's nexus. herO got supply blocked, couldn't build the observer, Rain won. Rain's decisions were RIDICULOUSLY clutch in that game. Please stop arguing if you don't understand the game.
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saying that unscouted DTs is "doing nothing to win" is absurd lol, one of the ways you win is by forcing and/or taking advantage of your opponents mistakes. a good terran player will force errors and mistakes by putting pressure on with a reaper, even in the games you dont get any damage you still do it IN CASE you can force an error. a scouting error by rain is an error that means he deserves to win less than if he had scouted better.
all these players have to play on ladder or in practice all the time where im sure they deal with cheese and gimmicks, if you dont beat the cheese and gimmicks you're not playing better than your opponent
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On October 23 2014 20:28 brickrd wrote:
saying that unscouted DTs is "doing nothing to win" is absurd lol, one of the ways you win is by forcing and/or taking advantage of your opponents mistakes. a good terran player will force errors and mistakes by putting pressure on with a reaper, even in the games you dont get any damage you still do it IN CASE you can force an error. a scouting error by rain is an error that means he deserves to win less than if he had scouted better.
all these players have to play on ladder or in practice all the time where im sure they deal with cheese and gimmicks, if you dont beat the cheese and gimmicks you're not playing better than your opponent
Hey I agree. I just get annoyed by DLO's hypocrisy. Just because a player he likes lost, it went down to luck lol
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On October 23 2014 20:28 brickrd wrote:
saying that unscouted DTs is "doing nothing to win" is absurd lol, one of the ways you win is by forcing and/or taking advantage of your opponents mistakes. a good terran player will force errors and mistakes by putting pressure on with a reaper, even in the games you dont get any damage you still do it IN CASE you can force an error. a scouting error by rain is an error that means he deserves to win less than if he had scouted better.
all these players have to play on ladder or in practice all the time where im sure they deal with cheese and gimmicks, if you dont beat the cheese and gimmicks you're not playing better than your opponent
MC built the Dark Shrine in his base when there was an oracle scouting his whole main. The only spot that somehow wasn't checked was where the dark shrine was. It was a desperation attempt that he was incredibly lucky to get away with. As Apollo just said as well.
On October 23 2014 20:30 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2014 20:28 brickrd wrote:
saying that unscouted DTs is "doing nothing to win" is absurd lol, one of the ways you win is by forcing and/or taking advantage of your opponents mistakes. a good terran player will force errors and mistakes by putting pressure on with a reaper, even in the games you dont get any damage you still do it IN CASE you can force an error. a scouting error by rain is an error that means he deserves to win less than if he had scouted better.
all these players have to play on ladder or in practice all the time where im sure they deal with cheese and gimmicks, if you dont beat the cheese and gimmicks you're not playing better than your opponent Hey I agree. I just get annoyed by DLO's hypocrisy. Just because a player he likes lost, it went down to luck lol
The difference here is that I can understand when something is impressive or lucky and you apparently don't. And you still keep trying to call me out based on things you don't understand.
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