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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 12 2014 01:09 GMT
#1601
On October 12 2014 10:08 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:00 dazed25 wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Finally home, away from family, and can watch some of this. Just it time to not watch my country get embarrased. I'm assuming Huk got his ass kicked just as bad as Scarlett?

Probably harder in that, he kind of played pretty much as you would expect him to play and still got stomped. Scarlett didn't really look on her best form, coupled with Heart's style and timings seeming to have been very well planned and executed well to boot.


Scarlett not looking her best form is kind of to be expect vs Korean Terran's lately


it's kind of sad too because she almost looked dominant again at red bull only to have massive game swings due to widow mines. if only she could stick to muta ling bane and bait out widow mine shots better.


It's not even that she needs to bait them out more, it's just that she needed to not run all clumped banelings directly in to minefields. Really, as the guy above me said, her success was more due to the meta and now that it's shifted she's clueless and floundering.

All of this is irrelevant concerning heart vs Scarlett. Heart predicted her play and punished her for it.


Well I didn't see it but that makes me even more worried for her. I hope she doesn't go the way of Huk and get really predictable
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 12 2014 01:09 GMT
#1602
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Give internet or report

say that to them
The Bomber boy
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1603
On October 12 2014 10:08 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:06 olol wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:00 dazed25 wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Finally home, away from family, and can watch some of this. Just it time to not watch my country get embarrased. I'm assuming Huk got his ass kicked just as bad as Scarlett?

Probably harder in that, he kind of played pretty much as you would expect him to play and still got stomped. Scarlett didn't really look on her best form, coupled with Heart's style and timings seeming to have been very well planned and executed well to boot.


Scarlett not looking her best form is kind of to be expect vs Korean Terran's lately


it's kind of sad too because she almost looked dominant again at red bull only to have massive game swings due to widow mines. if only she could stick to muta ling bane and bait out widow mine shots better.


It pains me to say this, but Scarlett's success was entirely due to the shape of the metagame vs Terran prior to the patch.

She always played very greedy, got up to a very high drone count on minimal units and once she was up to the drone count she wanted she used a high baneling count to just steamroll over her opponents.

In matches vs Polt she would take bad engagements consistently but manage to win games due to sheer macro power.

The hellbat and widow mine patches directly nerfed what she was doing. She can't get by with those same bad fights she was taking before because she doesn't have the same economic lead going into the midgame and not controlling her Banelings hurts a lot more than it used to.



But that's the case for pretty much every Zerg nowadays, Terrans are currently just favored.


soO, DRG, Dark and Leenock have pretty good ZvT.


Impact has pretty good vs T. He crushed lot of them today.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1604
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26261 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1605
It's as if Zergs didn't need to keep up the improvements they were making on baneling splitting and engagement angles because of a previous patch, so they got a bit lazy.

I don't mean lazy as in they don't work hard at their game, and god knows they have a lot of other things mechanically that need doing, but it seems that there needs to be pain, needs to be something incredibly difficult that must be overcome for a long-term improvement in gameplay to occur.

I mean, hypothetically let's say tanks were made stronger because banes were considered imba wayyyy back in WoL. Would we have had the game develop to a stage where to be a Terran of any level of renown, you simply have to be able to split bio pretty competently?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1606
HuK D:
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1607
On October 12 2014 10:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.

The joys of Canada. =/
kiss kiss fall in love
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1608
On October 12 2014 10:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.

We move from this hellhole or riot
The Bomber boy
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1609
Please start the games; I'm hurting D:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1610
On October 12 2014 10:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:08 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:06 olol wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:00 dazed25 wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
On October 12 2014 09:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Finally home, away from family, and can watch some of this. Just it time to not watch my country get embarrased. I'm assuming Huk got his ass kicked just as bad as Scarlett?

Probably harder in that, he kind of played pretty much as you would expect him to play and still got stomped. Scarlett didn't really look on her best form, coupled with Heart's style and timings seeming to have been very well planned and executed well to boot.


Scarlett not looking her best form is kind of to be expect vs Korean Terran's lately


it's kind of sad too because she almost looked dominant again at red bull only to have massive game swings due to widow mines. if only she could stick to muta ling bane and bait out widow mine shots better.


It pains me to say this, but Scarlett's success was entirely due to the shape of the metagame vs Terran prior to the patch.

She always played very greedy, got up to a very high drone count on minimal units and once she was up to the drone count she wanted she used a high baneling count to just steamroll over her opponents.

In matches vs Polt she would take bad engagements consistently but manage to win games due to sheer macro power.

The hellbat and widow mine patches directly nerfed what she was doing. She can't get by with those same bad fights she was taking before because she doesn't have the same economic lead going into the midgame and not controlling her Banelings hurts a lot more than it used to.



But that's the case for pretty much every Zerg nowadays, Terrans are currently just favored.


soO, DRG, Dark and Leenock have pretty good ZvT.

soO, DRG, Dark and Leenock are not winning tournaments.


RIP soO.
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TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
October 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#1611
I feel Pigbaby is one of those secret weapons that will come out of nowhere. My mind says Bombaa but I wouldnt be surprised if Pigbaby snuck it out
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
October 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1612
eh... Scarlett adapts, all i have to say, she is changing now that her old playstyle is bad... she is no "patchplayer" and her TvZ will eventually get better :o
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
October 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1613
Korean's really seem to love Mr.Bitter
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1614
On October 12 2014 10:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.

The joys of Canada. =/

I would really like to get out of this country sometime. I'm getting sick of it.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1615
On October 12 2014 10:11 AWalker9 wrote:
Korean's really seem to love Mr.Bitter
https://twitter.com/AxCranK/status/521105389983526912

Why wouldn't you? He's handsome.
kiss kiss fall in love
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26261 Posts
October 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1616
On October 12 2014 10:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.

The joys of Canada. =/

I would really like to get out of this country sometime. I'm getting sick of it.

Wanna swap for a while?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1617
WCS America Premier RO8

(T)Bomber vs (P)Pigbaby
0-0


Map: Overgrowth

Pigbaby spawns in the bottom left
Bomber spawns in the top right
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TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 12 2014 01:12 GMT
#1618
On October 12 2014 10:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.

The joys of Canada. =/

I would really like to get out of this country sometime. I'm getting sick of it.

Wanna swap for a while?

Why would you wanna come to Canada? :O
kiss kiss fall in love
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 12 2014 01:12 GMT
#1619
On October 12 2014 10:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 10:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:10 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:09 The_Templar wrote:
On October 12 2014 10:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
So it turns out the internet at my parent's house is somehow WORSE than a public library. Didn't see that coming. Oh mobile...

Tell your parents to fix their internet, this is unacceptable

It's a rural internet connection, there's not fixing it.

The joys of Canada. =/

I would really like to get out of this country sometime. I'm getting sick of it.

Wanna swap for a while?


Maybe, a change of pace would be wonderful!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 12 2014 01:12 GMT
#1620
I predict a 3-0 for Pigbaby
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