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On September 29 2014 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:42 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. Why do you call it prime style xD Isn't it Maru style which he made during Jin Air? Wasn't he just pure 2rax pretty much in Prime ^_^ Because the people who popularized it (Polt, Marineking, Maru) are all ex-Prime terrans and it originally started within Prime. I cannot remember that style at all in WOL? All i remember prime players for in WOL was the standard marine tank and heavy splitting style. Of course many all ins too =P Hmm Rewatch some WoL TvPs of these people, they were all about spamming MMM and headbashing until someone died. All of them still are.
Who's TvP do you enjoy?
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On September 29 2014 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:42 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. Why do you call it prime style xD Isn't it Maru style which he made during Jin Air? Wasn't he just pure 2rax pretty much in Prime ^_^ Because the people who popularized it (Polt, Marineking, Maru) are all ex-Prime terrans and it originally started within Prime. I cannot remember that style at all in WOL? All i remember prime players for in WOL was the standard marine tank and heavy splitting style. Of course many all ins too =P Hmm Rewatch some WoL TvPs of these people, they were all about spamming MMM and headbashing until someone died. All of them still are.
true, and it is entertaining to watch - but as you said, gets predictable.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure.
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Austria24420 Posts
On September 29 2014 20:50 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:42 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. Why do you call it prime style xD Isn't it Maru style which he made during Jin Air? Wasn't he just pure 2rax pretty much in Prime ^_^ Because the people who popularized it (Polt, Marineking, Maru) are all ex-Prime terrans and it originally started within Prime. I cannot remember that style at all in WOL? All i remember prime players for in WOL was the standard marine tank and heavy splitting style. Of course many all ins too =P Hmm Rewatch some WoL TvPs of these people, they were all about spamming MMM and headbashing until someone died. All of them still are. Who's TvP do you enjoy?
I quite enjoy Taeja's. There's nothing fancy about it, he's just better at making correct decisions/taking the right fights than almost anybody else. Plus his ghost/viking control is absurd.
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On September 29 2014 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:50 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:42 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. Why do you call it prime style xD Isn't it Maru style which he made during Jin Air? Wasn't he just pure 2rax pretty much in Prime ^_^ Because the people who popularized it (Polt, Marineking, Maru) are all ex-Prime terrans and it originally started within Prime. I cannot remember that style at all in WOL? All i remember prime players for in WOL was the standard marine tank and heavy splitting style. Of course many all ins too =P Hmm Rewatch some WoL TvPs of these people, they were all about spamming MMM and headbashing until someone died. All of them still are. Who's TvP do you enjoy? I quite enjoy Taeja's. There's nothing fancy about it, he's just better at making correct decisions/taking the right fights than almost anybody else. Plus his ghost/viking control is absurd.
Ok, and who is the best in TvP in your opinion?
And do you like INno's TvP?
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On September 29 2014 20:42 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. He reminds me of a mini Bogus. Sick mechanics but plays dumb sometimes.
Would you say...robotic?
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On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure.
TvP was my best match up in WoL towards the end :D
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Austria24420 Posts
On September 29 2014 20:56 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:50 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:42 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. Why do you call it prime style xD Isn't it Maru style which he made during Jin Air? Wasn't he just pure 2rax pretty much in Prime ^_^ Because the people who popularized it (Polt, Marineking, Maru) are all ex-Prime terrans and it originally started within Prime. I cannot remember that style at all in WOL? All i remember prime players for in WOL was the standard marine tank and heavy splitting style. Of course many all ins too =P Hmm Rewatch some WoL TvPs of these people, they were all about spamming MMM and headbashing until someone died. All of them still are. Who's TvP do you enjoy? I quite enjoy Taeja's. There's nothing fancy about it, he's just better at making correct decisions/taking the right fights than almost anybody else. Plus his ghost/viking control is absurd. Ok, and who is the best in TvP in your opinion? And do you like INno's TvP?
Hard to say since Taeja doesn't regularly play against the top KR protoss and he's quite inconsistent. If he's on, I think he's the best TvPer. Otherwise it's probably Maru.
I hate Innovation's TvP  he pulls SCVs way too much for my taste.
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On September 29 2014 20:57 REyeM wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:42 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. He reminds me of a mini Bogus. Sick mechanics but plays dumb sometimes. Would you say...robotic?
Yeah but Inno does it all better :D
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On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure.
It was kinda bad from PvT point of view. I really hated the early game. It was defend and guess what is Terran doing behind the wall. Mid game was like - can I survive and then the late game.
(I had around 60 % win rate in PvT ;-) But vortex randomness killed my PvZ which was around 40 % at the end of WoL)
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On September 29 2014 20:57 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure. TvP was my best match up in WoL towards the end :D
Same because it was so easy to do. Standard MMM + Viking. If it goes late game make lotsa Ghosts. Very simple and fun. Yet top level it was still very entertaining to watch.
Players like Flash in their current shape would of been even better to watch in that matchup as it literally is macro wars.
On September 29 2014 20:58 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure. It was kinda bad from PvT point of view. I really hated the early game. It was defend and guess what is Terran doing behind the wall. Mid game was like - can I survive and then the late game. (I had around 60 % win rate in PvT ;-) But vortex randomness killed my PvZ which was around 40 % at the end of WoL)
Yeah late game PvT was fun to watch though. Ghost Firebear Viking vs random toss + mothership stuff xD
Byun vs HerO was it the 1hour PvT fun? Probably one of the good moments of TvP for Terran in WOL !
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On September 29 2014 20:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:56 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:50 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:47 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 29 2014 20:42 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I feel like Cure needs to learn how to play something other than just the Prime headbashing style. It gets predictable. Why do you call it prime style xD Isn't it Maru style which he made during Jin Air? Wasn't he just pure 2rax pretty much in Prime ^_^ Because the people who popularized it (Polt, Marineking, Maru) are all ex-Prime terrans and it originally started within Prime. I cannot remember that style at all in WOL? All i remember prime players for in WOL was the standard marine tank and heavy splitting style. Of course many all ins too =P Hmm Rewatch some WoL TvPs of these people, they were all about spamming MMM and headbashing until someone died. All of them still are. Who's TvP do you enjoy? I quite enjoy Taeja's. There's nothing fancy about it, he's just better at making correct decisions/taking the right fights than almost anybody else. Plus his ghost/viking control is absurd. Ok, and who is the best in TvP in your opinion? And do you like INno's TvP? Hard to say since Taeja doesn't regularly play against the top KR protoss and he's quite inconsistent. If he's on, I think he's the best TvPer. Otherwise it's probably Maru. I hate Innovation's TvP he pulls SCVs way too much for my taste.
Hm yeah Taeja and Maru is beast but Inno is up there! And he hasn't pulled scvs once this code s season D: only in coda for ez wins
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On September 29 2014 20:59 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:57 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure. TvP was my best match up in WoL towards the end :D Same because it was so easy to do. Standard MMM + Viking. If it goes late game make lotsa Ghosts. Very simple and fun. Yet top level it was still very entertaining to watch. Players like Flash in their current shape would of been even better to watch in that matchup as it literally is macro wars.
I hate early game hots TvP. And dts GOD DO I HATE DTS
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On September 29 2014 21:01 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 20:59 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:57 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure. TvP was my best match up in WoL towards the end :D Same because it was so easy to do. Standard MMM + Viking. If it goes late game make lotsa Ghosts. Very simple and fun. Yet top level it was still very entertaining to watch. Players like Flash in their current shape would of been even better to watch in that matchup as it literally is macro wars. I hate early game hots TvP. And dts GOD DO I HATE DTS
You literally need to be god of scouting in early game TvP yeah. I am not good at this and i normally die if the toss does anything other than fast expand into quick colli stuff.
If he blinks or does oracle opener im normally dead XD
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On September 29 2014 21:02 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 21:01 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:59 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:57 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure. TvP was my best match up in WoL towards the end :D Same because it was so easy to do. Standard MMM + Viking. If it goes late game make lotsa Ghosts. Very simple and fun. Yet top level it was still very entertaining to watch. Players like Flash in their current shape would of been even better to watch in that matchup as it literally is macro wars. I hate early game hots TvP. And dts GOD DO I HATE DTS You literally need to be god of scouting in early game TvP yeah. I am not good at this and i normally die if the toss does anything other than fast expand into quick colli stuff. If he blinks or does oracle opener im normally dead XD
I can hold oracle stuff usually quite well. Blink allins make me want to throw up
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Oh, we will get Protoss back in season 4 Gumba :3
Steppes of war they going to die!!!!!
On September 29 2014 21:04 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 21:02 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 21:01 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:59 Pandemona wrote:On September 29 2014 20:57 GumBa wrote:On September 29 2014 20:53 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but TvP back in WOL wasn't as bad when you went MMM and Viking vs Protoss. It wasn't any timing attack from that before the 1st colli comes out vs a turtle toss.
WOL TvP is much better to watch and play in than HOTS TvP that is for sure. TvP was my best match up in WoL towards the end :D Same because it was so easy to do. Standard MMM + Viking. If it goes late game make lotsa Ghosts. Very simple and fun. Yet top level it was still very entertaining to watch. Players like Flash in their current shape would of been even better to watch in that matchup as it literally is macro wars. I hate early game hots TvP. And dts GOD DO I HATE DTS You literally need to be god of scouting in early game TvP yeah. I am not good at this and i normally die if the toss does anything other than fast expand into quick colli stuff. If he blinks or does oracle opener im normally dead XD I can hold oracle stuff usually quite well. Blink allins make me want to throw up
My opener is normally reaper though, so i reaper expand and then throw 3 rax down after that. Or i do something "outside" the box and throw a factory down etc then oracle is like on me and im trying chase it away to much. xD
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On September 29 2014 21:04 Pandemona wrote:
Oh, we will get Protoss back in season 4 Gumba :3
Steppes of war they going to die!!!!!
I don't know man, that nexus cannon should basically reach the opponent's main.
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Austria24420 Posts
On September 29 2014 21:04 Pandemona wrote:
Oh, we will get Protoss back in season 4 Gumba :3
Steppes of war they going to die!!!!!
Don't worry, nobody is actually gonna play on that
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