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On September 27 2014 21:23 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:19 GumBa wrote: And to the Classic talks. People seem to forget he was really good at STX and at SKT before his gsl win. He is still a code S caliber toss imo. He just got a really hot streak and won at a time where toss were doing well so people dont like to give him credit. He was only 1 game away from beating Rain and qualifying for RO8 in S1
Classic was a powerhouse in Proleague early seasons but i feel hes getting a bit predictable. Time to add in some all ins like her0
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He could have pulled an mma and attacked while the ramp was forcefielded
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On September 27 2014 21:23 sushiman wrote: One of the worst sentry drops I've seen. Was his warp-in on cooldown or something? Yeah, he Warped-in like 5 Stalkers just seconds before the Drop, which is sad.
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On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you.
Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL?
This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it.
Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too
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Are the rest of the games on main stream?
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On September 27 2014 21:24 AWalker9 wrote: soO only 1 game away from qualifying from Dreamhack Winter.
Also if he wins it the KeSPA Cup will be the only tournament this where he hasn't finished at least top 4. Mlg
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On September 27 2014 21:19 GumBa wrote: And to the Classic talks. People seem to forget he was really good at STX and at SKT before his gsl win. He is still a code S caliber toss imo. He just got a really hot streak and won at a time where toss were doing well so people dont like to give him credit.
I agree, people like to shit on him because his win came at a time Protoss dominance was quite annoying and couldn't really deal with the aftermath of his victory (probably less "hunger" for winning) but I'm pretty sure he, like Dear, will make a resurgence in 2015.
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On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL? This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it. Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too
Taeja. By far the best player to never win GSL.
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On September 27 2014 21:24 GumBa wrote: soOjwa so goOd
Gonna take it all
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nothing is going my way today
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On September 27 2014 21:24 covetousrat wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:23 AWalker9 wrote:On September 27 2014 21:19 GumBa wrote: And to the Classic talks. People seem to forget he was really good at STX and at SKT before his gsl win. He is still a code S caliber toss imo. He just got a really hot streak and won at a time where toss were doing well so people dont like to give him credit. He was only 1 game away from beating Rain and qualifying for RO8 in S1 Classic was a powerhouse in Proleague early seasons but i feel hes getting a bit predictable. Time to add in some all ins like her0
I don't think anyone has more diverse builds than herO.
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On September 27 2014 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL? This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it. Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too Taeja. By far the best player to never win GSL. soO
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On September 27 2014 21:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL? This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it. Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too Taeja. By far the best player to never win GSL. soO MKP
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On September 27 2014 21:25 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:24 covetousrat wrote:On September 27 2014 21:23 AWalker9 wrote:On September 27 2014 21:19 GumBa wrote: And to the Classic talks. People seem to forget he was really good at STX and at SKT before his gsl win. He is still a code S caliber toss imo. He just got a really hot streak and won at a time where toss were doing well so people dont like to give him credit. He was only 1 game away from beating Rain and qualifying for RO8 in S1 Classic was a powerhouse in Proleague early seasons but i feel hes getting a bit predictable. Time to add in some all ins like her0 I don't think anyone has more diverse builds than herO. Too bad so few of them actually work.
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On September 27 2014 21:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL? This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it. Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too Taeja. By far the best player to never win GSL. soO
Lol I can't believe I didn't immediately think of soO lol.
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On September 27 2014 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL? This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it. Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too Taeja. By far the best player to never win GSL. The list stops with taeja and innovation tbh
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On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL?
Depending on this season's results, soO or INnoVation. PartinG close contender for his consistency never to reach a finals.
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On September 27 2014 21:24 GumBa wrote: soOjwa so goOd I thought he was a koOng
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On September 27 2014 21:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 27 2014 21:24 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:16 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 27 2014 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On September 27 2014 21:10 sharkie wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 Ej_ wrote:On September 27 2014 21:05 sharkie wrote: Classic is probably the weirdest GSL champion of all time Seed Right, Seed and Classic. Really weird GSL champions Sniper, RorO and to a lesser extent jjakji are strange champions too, though I agree Seed is the weirdest so far (don't bury Classic too quickly). Roro and Sniper were pretty damn good for a decent stretch of time, jjakji still occasionally has the odd deep run. Classic will probably return from his post-GSL hangover at some stage to be a good but not great Toss too Seed had good overall results in the period of time when he won his GSL (placed high in Korean and Asian qualifiers for WCS, missed quarterfinals for the next GSL for one close game against Symbol) too. But as I said, I kinda agree he's the most "one-shot" type of GSL champion so far. I think for many of these guys it's probably hard to keep the motivation when you reach the very top as well. Even a small drop in that sense in such a rampantly competitive scene will be brutal on you. Been pondering this, best players never to win a GSL? This isn't so much in terms of all-time, but more players who looked among the very best at a period and then didn't win it. Parting when he unleashed his Templar play and looked unstoppable vT, but didn't bring it home springs to mind. Innovation1.0 losing to Soulkey is another for me. Leenock never winning a GSL too Taeja. By far the best player to never win GSL. soO He's about to win one
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