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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#3181
On October 04 2014 19:57 Elroi wrote:
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On October 04 2014 19:50 dravernor wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:42 Aeromi wrote:
How's the final so far ? Girlfriend is at home and I can't watch.

Aeromi you need to get her in SC2 too ^_^ I always used to watch with my bf, it was great.

would you like to watch some sc with me? <3

Smooth
Glorious SEA doto
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 10:58:43
October 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#3182
On October 04 2014 19:51 The_Templar wrote:
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On October 04 2014 19:51 y0su wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:48 The_Templar wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:47 pure.Wasted wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:45 Symbioth wrote:
You guys saying that these finals is terrible just fail to appreciate this kind of games for some reason. I mean, who said that only long back-to-back macro games are awesome.


And back-to-back all-ins and cheeses are as awesome as macro games?


No, but this is certainly a memorable night of SC2. Two macro beasts slugging it out in the most underhanded of ways for the biggest title on the planet.

…by cheesing each other over and over...


seeing a bo7 go quickly is about the same as seeing a bo3 stretch into macro games. Either way you get to see the players adapting as it goes on. To me, that's what I really like to see. Individually, these games are disappointing. As a whole, it's a great series showing some decision making.

I have a feeling that I'm missing something crucial from game 4. What exactly happened there?

soO showed that he might not react properly to a 2 rax. Not sure if INno was already planning on doing it on MGR, but I wasn't at all shocked by how poorly soO defended (after seeing g4)
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
October 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#3183
HELLBATS?!
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#3184
macro game? BOOOO I DIDNT COME FOR THIS!
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
October 04 2014 10:57 GMT
#3185
especially on these positions, inno will go mech
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3186
On October 04 2014 19:57 brickrd wrote:
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On October 04 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:53 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 sharkie wrote:
I know that 2rax is not unbeatable but can people post recent videos of holding 2rax WITHOUT the terran screwing up?

I just need to be reminded how to beat it


help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life


I said without terran screwing up...

Pull 4 drones, make sure none of them die, send 2 to make spine crawlers/3 if they pull scvs make a queen and some lings don't be afraid to sac the hatch in exchange for a massive flood of lings to instantly win the game, dont be afraid to run lings past to cut off the marines being made

no one ever wins without screwing up less than their opponent regardless of what build they use

6pool vs cc on the highground vs terran is almost an instant loss, so that statement just isn't true lol
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3187
On October 04 2014 19:55 xtorn wrote:
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On October 04 2014 19:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
You know what, this is an OK map for 2 rax... Will INno think "no way he expects that a third time in a row" ?


but soO knows that, and will think "he will do a 3rd 2rax cuz he thinks theres no way im expecting it ". but then InnO counters that thought too, and...


Doesn't really matter if zerg expects it or not.
Unless you find the 2 rax when still building so you can kill scvs/delay rax
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3188
On October 04 2014 19:57 Varroth wrote:
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On October 04 2014 19:43 Faefae wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:41 Varroth wrote:
I swear to god it's impossible to stop a 2rax... I literally havn't seen a terran fail a 2rax since the beginning of 2014...


You should watch more sc !


I watch SPL,WCS,IEM,DH,ASUS,Everything else It's just that it's a really overpowered strategy that people don't really whine about because terrans dont overuse it like protoss did blink all ins.

Don't you realize how much of a contradiction this sentence is?
DaveSprite
Profile Joined February 2013
United States79 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3189
HELLION BANSHEE BOYS
Caw Caw Motherfucker
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3190
Hellion/Banshee
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3191
On October 04 2014 19:54 The_Templar wrote:
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[image loading]Bogus              [image loading]soOjwa


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3-2


Map: Deadwing

INnoVation spawns in the top right
soO spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Hatchery first versus CC first.
Barracks and refinery for INnoVation.

3:00
Spawning pool for soO.
Queens and zerglings for soO.

4:00
Factory for INnoVation.
Second refinery for INnoVation.
soO is breaking the rocks next to his natural.

5:00
Starport for INnoVation.
Two hellions on the way.
soO building drones.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3192
On October 04 2014 19:57 Varroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:43 Faefae wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:41 Varroth wrote:
I swear to god it's impossible to stop a 2rax... I literally havn't seen a terran fail a 2rax since the beginning of 2014...


You should watch more sc !


I watch SPL,WCS,IEM,DH,ASUS,Everything else It's just that it's a really overpowered strategy that people don't really whine about because terrans dont overuse it like protoss did blink all ins.

If it was overpowered it would be overused.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3193
Could this be the first macro game today?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3194
On October 04 2014 19:57 Musicus wrote:
And soO gets the bad map spawns again! Them map order and spawns could not have been worse.

He can still do this, he just has to win here with normal play.


Better than horizontal...
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3195
On October 04 2014 19:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:52 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Ej_ wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 sharkie wrote:
I know that 2rax is not unbeatable but can people post recent videos of holding 2rax WITHOUT the terran screwing up?

I just need to be reminded how to beat it


help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life

Like that time he lost to Center's 2rax?


Like the other 1 million times he crushed it

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't see how that changes the fact that Life is the best (or at the least one of the best) at stopping 2raxes. Shit, he had a few bad weeks, he must suck!

Do you want me to link you that tournament where Maru lost against Nado?
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18700 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3196
On October 04 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:53 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 sharkie wrote:
I know that 2rax is not unbeatable but can people post recent videos of holding 2rax WITHOUT the terran screwing up?

I just need to be reminded how to beat it


help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life


I said without terran screwing up...

Pull 4 drones, make sure none of them die, send 2 to make spine crawlers/3 if they pull scvs make a queen and some lings don't be afraid to sac the hatch in exchange for a massive flood of lings to instantly win the game, dont be afraid to run lings past to cut off the marines being made


ok what if the terran invests just enough to kill the hatch and then goes full eco mode like forgg did vs snute in their series?

Zerg will have no drones, only 1 hatch, tons of lings and terran goes 3cc behind supply depot wall?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3197
On October 04 2014 19:58 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:57 brickrd wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:53 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:51 Zealously wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 sharkie wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:46 sharkie wrote:
I know that 2rax is not unbeatable but can people post recent videos of holding 2rax WITHOUT the terran screwing up?

I just need to be reminded how to beat it


help please? :/


Find a VOD of someone 2raxing Life


I said without terran screwing up...

Pull 4 drones, make sure none of them die, send 2 to make spine crawlers/3 if they pull scvs make a queen and some lings don't be afraid to sac the hatch in exchange for a massive flood of lings to instantly win the game, dont be afraid to run lings past to cut off the marines being made

no one ever wins without screwing up less than their opponent regardless of what build they use

6pool vs cc on the highground vs terran is almost an instant loss, so that statement just isn't true lol

6pooling against terran is screwing up in itself
TL+ Member
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3198
On October 04 2014 19:57 Varroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:43 Faefae wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:41 Varroth wrote:
I swear to god it's impossible to stop a 2rax... I literally havn't seen a terran fail a 2rax since the beginning of 2014...


You should watch more sc !


I watch SPL,WCS,IEM,DH,ASUS,Everything else It's just that it's a really overpowered strategy that people don't really whine about because terrans dont overuse it like protoss did blink all ins.


Terrans would use it if it victory was as guaranteed as you describe. The all-in doesn't work out if you scout it early or vary your opening as zerg.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 04 2014 10:58 GMT
#3199
On October 04 2014 19:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 19:57 Elroi wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:50 dravernor wrote:
On October 04 2014 19:42 Aeromi wrote:
How's the final so far ? Girlfriend is at home and I can't watch.

Aeromi you need to get her in SC2 too ^_^ I always used to watch with my bf, it was great.

would you like to watch some sc with me? <3

Smooth

Smoother than ForGG asking Seltzer for a kiss
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 04 2014 10:59 GMT
#3200
Roach warren
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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