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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 26 2014 20:52 GMT
#2181
If TRUE wins his match I think it'll be cool to call this Dreamhack Stockholm: The Swarm Strikes back. So much Zerg starpower.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
September 26 2014 20:52 GMT
#2182
On September 27 2014 05:47 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:44 Circumstance wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:41 ReMinD_ wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:35 Circumstance wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT.

Fuck Korea. Fuck their insistence on going anywhere and everywhere to take the entire planet's money. Fuck their soul-draining Kespa, fuck their giant infrastructure advantage, fuck the inability of anyone not from that one goddamn country to realize their potential, and fuck all of the people who actually have the audacity to suggest that it's the foreigners who are entitled by wanting to make a living in their own damn country. Your "world" championships will have sixteen people from the same fucking country whose personalities have been manufactured by a community that bends over backwards to eliminate the REALITY of the faceless Korean. Fuck all of this.

Scarlett, Bunny, Huk, I am counting on you SO HARD. One of you HAS to win your region to reduce this complete and utter farce.


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Damn those Koreans and their Starcraft gene that gives them unfair advantage over others. Oh, wait... Maybe it's just some hard work paying off.


Ah, everyone's favorite steaming pile of BS, "Koreans just work harder". If you work twice as hard and twice as long outside of Korea, you'll be lucky to get have the improvement. Or was it just through dumb lazy luck that Jinro, Idra and Naniwa all made Top 8 in Code S, and Huk made Top 16, while they were living in Korea?

What else is it? It's not like it's in their genes or something.

Or is it? Oh my...

Well to be fair, I don't think it is only about working harder. Foreigner living on his own in US or NA could not become as good as fast - it's the infrastructure it's all about. The coaches, the teamhouses, things like that. Mostly the coaches. And the attitude towards training they create. I think that's the most important stuff.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
September 26 2014 20:52 GMT
#2183
Name of the song playing now ? The one with female vocals !
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#2184
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

[image loading]
gg

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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#2185
On September 27 2014 05:52 IeZaeL wrote:
Name of the song playing now ? The one with female vocals !

TwoThirds - Waking Dreams (feat. Laura Brehm)
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#2186
On September 27 2014 05:50 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:48 ssxsilver wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:47 AWalker9 wrote:

Solar's quickly becoming my favorite Kespa player. He's always so happy!


Manufactured personality. That's not his actual face, but A MASK

I would make a Day9 joke, but the end of LR usually attracts the angrier posters and I don't want to get skewered.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 26 2014 20:53 GMT
#2187
On September 27 2014 05:51 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:49 stuchiu wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:47 Swisslink wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:46 Circumstance wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:45 Swisslink wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:44 Circumstance wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:41 ReMinD_ wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:35 Circumstance wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT.

Fuck Korea. Fuck their insistence on going anywhere and everywhere to take the entire planet's money. Fuck their soul-draining Kespa, fuck their giant infrastructure advantage, fuck the inability of anyone not from that one goddamn country to realize their potential, and fuck all of the people who actually have the audacity to suggest that it's the foreigners who are entitled by wanting to make a living in their own damn country. Your "world" championships will have sixteen people from the same fucking country whose personalities have been manufactured by a community that bends over backwards to eliminate the REALITY of the faceless Korean. Fuck all of this.

Scarlett, Bunny, Huk, I am counting on you SO HARD. One of you HAS to win your region to reduce this complete and utter farce.


User was warned for this post


Damn those Koreans and their Starcraft gene that gives them unfair advantage over others. Oh, wait... Maybe it's just some hard work paying off.


Ah, everyone's favorite steaming pile of BS, "Koreans just work harder". If you work twice as hard and twice as long outside of Korea, you'll be lucky to get have the improvement. Or was it just through dumb lazy luck that Jinro, Idra and Naniwa all made Top 8 in Code S, and Huk made Top 16, while they were living in Korea?


well, of course it's an advantage to be in Korea. But... that's not really the Koreans fault, but the foreigners.


How the hell is it their "fault" for not being born in Korea?


You know: The Korean scene and infrastructure didn't just... happen. It was built up.


Boxer built up taht scene with his own 2 hands.


Shit, how could I forget :o

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:49 brickrd wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:45 Swisslink wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:44 Circumstance wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:41 ReMinD_ wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:35 Circumstance wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT.

Fuck Korea. Fuck their insistence on going anywhere and everywhere to take the entire planet's money. Fuck their soul-draining Kespa, fuck their giant infrastructure advantage, fuck the inability of anyone not from that one goddamn country to realize their potential, and fuck all of the people who actually have the audacity to suggest that it's the foreigners who are entitled by wanting to make a living in their own damn country. Your "world" championships will have sixteen people from the same fucking country whose personalities have been manufactured by a community that bends over backwards to eliminate the REALITY of the faceless Korean. Fuck all of this.

Scarlett, Bunny, Huk, I am counting on you SO HARD. One of you HAS to win your region to reduce this complete and utter farce.


User was warned for this post


Damn those Koreans and their Starcraft gene that gives them unfair advantage over others. Oh, wait... Maybe it's just some hard work paying off.


Ah, everyone's favorite steaming pile of BS, "Koreans just work harder". If you work twice as hard and twice as long outside of Korea, you'll be lucky to get have the improvement. Or was it just through dumb lazy luck that Jinro, Idra and Naniwa all made Top 8 in Code S, and Huk made Top 16, while they were living in Korea?


well, of course it's an advantage to be in Korea. But... that's not really the Koreans fault, but the foreigners.

it's literally no one's "fault," its just a thing. if you live in alaska youre probably not destined to be a volleyball superstar but that doesnt mean you need your hand held so you can compete against people who come from warm climates. its life. you arent entitled to choose to make your living on competitive gaming lol


Well, not the best comparison, imo. While you can't really change the climate, infrastructure etc. could be built up.

edit: ofc the culture helps as well. I won't even deny that, but again: that didn't just... happen.
its a perfectly fine comparison, building up infrastructure is irrelevant to what im saying, the point is that you dont get to just choose something fun and cool to make your living on and you cant expect every career to be viable. esports succeeding in america/foreign areas is not essential to the functioning of society. you cant just make a living doing whatever you want, most people have to settle for what pays their bills
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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2188
go Welmu, make it 3!
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2189
On September 27 2014 05:52 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:47 Lorning wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:44 Circumstance wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:41 ReMinD_ wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:35 Circumstance wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT.

Fuck Korea. Fuck their insistence on going anywhere and everywhere to take the entire planet's money. Fuck their soul-draining Kespa, fuck their giant infrastructure advantage, fuck the inability of anyone not from that one goddamn country to realize their potential, and fuck all of the people who actually have the audacity to suggest that it's the foreigners who are entitled by wanting to make a living in their own damn country. Your "world" championships will have sixteen people from the same fucking country whose personalities have been manufactured by a community that bends over backwards to eliminate the REALITY of the faceless Korean. Fuck all of this.

Scarlett, Bunny, Huk, I am counting on you SO HARD. One of you HAS to win your region to reduce this complete and utter farce.


User was warned for this post


Damn those Koreans and their Starcraft gene that gives them unfair advantage over others. Oh, wait... Maybe it's just some hard work paying off.


Ah, everyone's favorite steaming pile of BS, "Koreans just work harder". If you work twice as hard and twice as long outside of Korea, you'll be lucky to get have the improvement. Or was it just through dumb lazy luck that Jinro, Idra and Naniwa all made Top 8 in Code S, and Huk made Top 16, while they were living in Korea?

What else is it? It's not like it's in their genes or something.

Or is it? Oh my...

Well to be fair, I don't think it is only about working harder. Foreigner living on his own in US or NA could not become as good as fast - it's the infrastructure it's all about. The coaches, the teamhouses, things like that. Mostly the coaches. And the attitude towards training they create. I think that's the most important stuff.


Sports culture. Being the best just isnt economical in NA. It is more so in EU and even more so in KR. Parting called it being a wild animal, but outside of Kespa, you basically need to be your own marketing machine.
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2190
On September 27 2014 05:51 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:49 Paljas wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:47 AWalker9 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Samsung_Solar/status/515603505919188992

EVEN GRUBBY FRATERNIZES WITH THE KOREANS!
CALL THE SPONSORS!


GRUBBY BETRAYS CIRCUMSTANCE, CIRCUMSTANCE SENDING STRONGLY WORDED POST TO GRUBBY AS WE SPEAK


You're a progamer, you hang out with other progamers. Don't turn me into some sort of xenophobe for daring to suggest that people born in the other 99% of the world might want to turn their talent into a job the way the Koreans do.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2191
then ForGG just got fed up and won easily,lol
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 20:54:38
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2192
On September 27 2014 05:53 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gg

Hahaha who made this?
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2193
On September 27 2014 05:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
If TRUE wins his match I think it'll be cool to call this Dreamhack Stockholm: The Swarm Strikes back. So much Zerg starpower.

Well, if Classic and Ryung win their matches, we will have 4 P, 6 Z and 6 T in Ro16. Yeah, more Zergs than in other tournaments but still not too many.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
September 26 2014 20:54 GMT
#2194
On September 27 2014 05:38 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:37 Bagration wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:36 BlackCompany wrote:
MMA has the same points as soO?
Thats kind of.. unexpected


Foreign tournaments do that.


True, but still it came kind of unexpected to me. I mean, soO had some pretty good GSL runs
Not that i want to start a discussion about if GSL should award more points, i just would have thought soO would be up in points


IMO a big part of the problem, besides KeSPA not offering enough opportunities to their player to participate in tournaments, is that second (and third) place at the WCS tournaments is underrated in terms of points. There should be no situation where a player who has been/is in all 3 WCS finals of the year has to struggle for enough points to make it too Blizzcon.

A tier 2 WCS tournaments gets the winner 750 point and the runner up 500. That's 2/3 of the winner's points. The WCS tournaments itself get the winner 2000 and the second place 1000. That's only 1/2 if the first place points. If they raised the WCS second place points to 1400 (rounding up), soO would've placed without problems. Similar scenario for 3rd place points.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 26 2014 20:55 GMT
#2195
On September 27 2014 05:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:53 Paljas wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gg

Hahaha who made this?

Made? That's just a picture of 4gg's cat
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 26 2014 20:56 GMT
#2196
On September 27 2014 05:55 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:54 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:53 Paljas wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gg

Hahaha who made this?

Made? That's just a picture of 4gg's cat

90% winrate in cat street fights
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 26 2014 20:56 GMT
#2197
On September 27 2014 05:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:53 Paljas wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gg

Hahaha who made this?

ripped it from the twitter of that feedme guy
TL+ Member
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
September 26 2014 20:57 GMT
#2198
On September 27 2014 05:56 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:55 Lorning wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:54 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:53 Paljas wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gg

Hahaha who made this?

Made? That's just a picture of 4gg's cat

90% winrate in cat street fights

Winrate got infalted because he kept fighting those white western cats
ForGG. 29/11/2014
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
September 26 2014 20:58 GMT
#2199
Praying to God Innovation will win GSL or Pig Baby will get 2nd or something. This is just too great of a situation.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 26 2014 20:58 GMT
#2200
On September 27 2014 05:57 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:56 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:55 Lorning wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:54 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:53 Paljas wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:51 TheDwf wrote:
On September 27 2014 05:48 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Morrow making Ro16 would be one of the biggest upsets of the year.

Yeah, but it's just not happening.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

gg

Hahaha who made this?

Made? That's just a picture of 4gg's cat

90% winrate in cat street fights

Winrate got infalted because he kept fighting those white western cats

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