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Ok guys, we're receiving a large amount of reports concerning balance whining, so we're going to be harsher and start banning.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
September 11 2014 10:17 GMT
#1481
Please Stardust, do win this game.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 11 2014 10:17 GMT
#1482
On September 11 2014 19:15 Gowerly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:14 BigFan wrote:
Thank you Flash.

On September 11 2014 19:09 Beta2k wrote:
did wolf comment on his wrong call? i have no audio.

nope.

He did. He mentioned he dropped the ball on the call.

did he? ok, fair enough. I missed it then.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 11 2014 10:17 GMT
#1483
On September 11 2014 19:17 Crazyahmed wrote:
Flash has to step it up, he was so far ahead and still made it a close game.

Didn't you see StarDust had 5 Cannons 10 Templars in defence?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 11 2014 10:18 GMT
#1484
On September 11 2014 19:17 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:16 Lorning wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:15 NarutO wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:14 Lorning wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:13 NarutO wrote:
I don't understand how Flash's minerals don't go over 100 like ever-_- prodigy macro

Cause he's eating almost every storm


His style is marauder and medivac heavy. He can eat the storm as long as he doesn't want a big engagement. Thats the point of this s tyle. Having army sustainability.

And that's also why his macro is that good. His army control is pretty lacking if you compare it to Maru for example

I think SD mixing in more feedbacks on the medivacs could have helped (hard to tell without seeing the hp/energy tho)

Indeed. Plus that last engagement was just godawful
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 11 2014 10:18 GMT
#1485
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.

DeadPixel.Hydra
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 11 2014 10:18 GMT
#1486
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.


wut
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1487
On September 11 2014 19:14 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:13 NarutO wrote:
I don't understand how Flash's minerals don't go over 100 like ever-_- prodigy macro


Flash was down 40 supply in late game TvP at one point...

I notice that happens a lot with flash. In his run at the IEM qualifiers, expecially vs classic, he was often way behind supply up, yet up in bases, his minerals and gas was sub 150. I think is because he mainly building ghosts, vikings and medivacs.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1488
And another Kespa players leaves his team.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1489
On September 11 2014 19:18 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.


wut

"All Koreans back to Korea?! Time for ez money in AM/EU"
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Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
September 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1490
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.


Source?
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1491
On September 11 2014 19:16 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:15 NarutO wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:14 Lorning wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:13 NarutO wrote:
I don't understand how Flash's minerals don't go over 100 like ever-_- prodigy macro

Cause he's eating almost every storm


His style is marauder and medivac heavy. He can eat the storm as long as he doesn't want a big engagement. Thats the point of this s tyle. Having army sustainability.

And that's also why his macro is that good. His army control is pretty lacking if you compare it to Maru for example


His army control is not lacking, he decides to go for a style in which he can eat the storm. I am sure if you see his direct TvZ engagements or anti-allin defence that his control is superb. Its simply a matter of style. Maru chooses to create chaos and preventing the late game and big engagements while Flash isn't really that much about harass. Ofcourse he'll try to drop and poke, but if he thinks its a too big commitment he won't drop - unlike Maru. Maru'S style is his strength and his downfall. Its a huge commitment and risk to drop with a lot of medivacs and do multi-pronged harass. If Protoss defends well you have little chance to win in the end.

Flash takes the big macro engagements and has to sometimes take a storm to take a good position before the fight. His 15 medivacs and marauder heavy composition allows this, because he will heal up units quickly. If he were to play ghost/marine or a style that is not based around tanking he would show proper control to it. (see TvZ, TvT)
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 10:20:07
September 11 2014 10:19 GMT
#1492
No one wants to stay in Korea. Yugioh was the only true Platonic and he died.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
September 11 2014 10:20 GMT
#1493
On September 11 2014 19:19 Rustug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.


Source?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466776-hydra-to-leave-cj-entus-because-of-new-wcs-rules
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 10:21:47
September 11 2014 10:21 GMT
#1494
On September 11 2014 19:19 stuchiu wrote:
No one wants to stay in Korea. Yugioh was the only true Platonic and he died.

Maybe he just had aeorophobia that we never knew about.

e: oh wait he did go to Dreamhack once. Truly the hero esports didn't deserve
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 11 2014 10:22 GMT
#1495
Noooo that supplyblock
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
September 11 2014 10:22 GMT
#1496
That was excellent for Flash. Up in workers now.
Flash | Mvp
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 11 2014 10:22 GMT
#1497
good question:

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 11 2014 10:22 GMT
#1498
On September 11 2014 19:20 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:19 Rustug wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.


Source?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466776-hydra-to-leave-cj-entus-because-of-new-wcs-rules

Except he's not leaving because of WCS...
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7166 Posts
September 11 2014 10:22 GMT
#1499
On September 11 2014 19:20 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:19 Rustug wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:17 Aeromi wrote:
Meanwhile, Hydra leaves CJ because of new WCS rules.


Source?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466776-hydra-to-leave-cj-entus-because-of-new-wcs-rules

Lol. The thread name is pretty bad.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 11 2014 10:23 GMT
#1500
On September 11 2014 19:19 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:16 Lorning wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:15 NarutO wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:14 Lorning wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:13 NarutO wrote:
I don't understand how Flash's minerals don't go over 100 like ever-_- prodigy macro

Cause he's eating almost every storm


His style is marauder and medivac heavy. He can eat the storm as long as he doesn't want a big engagement. Thats the point of this s tyle. Having army sustainability.

And that's also why his macro is that good. His army control is pretty lacking if you compare it to Maru for example


His army control is not lacking, he decides to go for a style in which he can eat the storm. I am sure if you see his direct TvZ engagements or anti-allin defence that his control is superb. Its simply a matter of style. Maru chooses to create chaos and preventing the late game and big engagements while Flash isn't really that much about harass. Ofcourse he'll try to drop and poke, but if he thinks its a too big commitment he won't drop - unlike Maru. Maru'S style is his strength and his downfall. Its a huge commitment and risk to drop with a lot of medivacs and do multi-pronged harass. If Protoss defends well you have little chance to win in the end.

Flash takes the big macro engagements and has to sometimes take a storm to take a good position before the fight. His 15 medivacs and marauder heavy composition allows this, because he will heal up units quickly. If he were to play ghost/marine or a style that is not based around tanking he would show proper control to it. (see TvZ, TvT)

His control against DRG was pretty lacking tho
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