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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 26 2014 18:38 GMT
#421
I think more Zergs should use TRUE's 9 Queen build
TL+ Member
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 26 2014 18:40 GMT
#422
the late upgrades from hellbat openings are a huge problem for terran
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 26 2014 18:40 GMT
#423
On August 27 2014 03:38 Paljas wrote:
I think more Zergs should use TRUE's 9 Queen build

Yeah queens are awesome, it doesn't even have to be 9 but like more queens people.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 26 2014 18:40 GMT
#424
uThermal upgrades are awfully late. he really is behind right now
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 26 2014 18:41 GMT
#425
On August 27 2014 03:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:38 Paljas wrote:
I think more Zergs should use TRUE's 9 Queen build

Yeah queens are awesome, it doesn't even have to be 9 but like more queens people.

Thinking about it, that ranged Queen attack probably changed the game more than any other single patch I can think of.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 26 2014 18:41 GMT
#426
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 26 2014 18:41 GMT
#427
13 minute stim pack, combat shields and +1 not ready...
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 26 2014 18:41 GMT
#428
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 27 2014 03:35 RHoudini wrote:
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

Correct. Because of the first-move advantage White scores 55%, Black 45%.

On August 27 2014 03:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

Yes. There's also some symmetry with respect to the openings that is often disputed as well.

On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
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On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


Ah okay cool, thanks guys, thought so! :D
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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 26 2014 18:42 GMT
#429
Is the fourth hatch misplaced?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 26 2014 18:42 GMT
#430
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport
TL+ Member
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 26 2014 18:43 GMT
#431
2/2 vs 1/1
ouch
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#432
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

A 12 game chess match takes 14 to 18 days...
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
August 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#433
Pure Marine is not gonna cut it uThermal...
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#434
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
August 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#435
Why did Uthermal sack his factory? Doesn't he need mines?
We know nothing.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#436
uThermal needs widow mines
no idea why he isnt building them
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 26 2014 18:45 GMT
#437
Mr. Creative!!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
August 26 2014 18:46 GMT
#438
Chess, the game where South Korea only has ONE Grandmaster

brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 26 2014 18:46 GMT
#439
why does any high level zerg let banelings do that thing where they all wrap around one marauder as a bio force is shooting them

i dont understand
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 26 2014 18:47 GMT
#440
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport


Not necessarily. I'd say that male tennis despite the relatively short series is one of the least variable sports almost to an oppressive level. Just look at how heavily Federer Nadal and Djokovic have dominated the scene.
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