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Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#461
havent watched WCS EU in a while do they not do player interviews anymore after they advance?
Like for TLO now?
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#462
wtf just happened x)
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:53:33
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#463
On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.

And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day
yea i think people forget sometimes that sports standings and playoffs are never meant to be "fair," its just entertainment/contest of endurance really with skill just giving you a generally higher chance of succeeding
TL+ Member
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#464
On August 27 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
could someone confirm that confirmation?


confirming your confirmation, confirmed
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Knatterking
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany405 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#465
On August 27 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
could someone confirm that confirmation?

CONFIRMED
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#466
On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.

And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day

And to adapt their builds.
That's what happens in chess matches, between rounds players try to find holes in the openings of their opponents. Becomes more and more difficult, because everybody is using chess engines that are stronger than the human WC.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:54:53
August 26 2014 18:54 GMT
#467
The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 26 2014 18:54 GMT
#468
TLO CONFIRMED to be very Creative™
TL+ Member
Don Jimbo
Profile Joined August 2014
70 Posts
August 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#469
I'm so happy for TLO! Congrats to Liquid!
When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#470
On August 27 2014 03:53 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.

And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day
yea i think people forget sometimes that sports standings and playoffs are never meant to be "fair," its just entertainment/contest of endurance really with skill just giving you a generally higher chance of succeeding


Yeah. Most sports' formats aren't in any way optimal to get a fair test of skill. They have an excessively long season to allow the home crowds to see their team play followed by a short playoff to crown a winner.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#471
Yay TLO!! :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 26 2014 18:57 GMT
#472
On August 27 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.

You have no idea.
The longest Karpov-Kasparov lasted over 5 months, from 10th September 1984 to 15th February 1985.
It was abandoned after 48 games, Karpov's health had deteriorated too much.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
August 26 2014 18:58 GMT
#473
uThermal's ingame ID used to be Traditional, iirc
Words.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#474
Like the Onion headline for the world cup where they said the pronunciation book for the Dutch team was 2000 pages long.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 19:00:43
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#475
On August 27 2014 03:57 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.

You have no idea.
The longest Karpov-Kasparov lasted over 5 months, from 10th September 1984 to 15th February 1985.
It was abandoned after 48 games, Karpov's health had deteriorated too much.


I actually had an idea being a fair amateur chess player, but I don't think such long matches would even be entertaining. So I preferred a best of 30 to something crazy like they did at the time. The analogue would probably be a BO500 and barely make any sense.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#476
Thats pretty good by Apollo, thats pretty close to how it sounds.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#477
shenkahau HAU HAUsen
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 19:01:04
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#478
NETHERLANDS ARE GOING TO GET REKT

BLUEWHITE > ORANGE
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#479
More single port into SCV pulls woop woop.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7165 Posts
August 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#480
SUOMI TORI PERKELE!
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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