• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:43
CEST 11:43
KST 18:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure1[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Unyielding3
Community News
Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)18Weekly Cups (May 5-11): New 2v2 Champs1Maru & Rogue GSL RO12 interviews: "I think the pressure really got to [trigger]"5Code S Season 1 - Maru & Rogue advance to RO80Code S Season 1 - Cure & Reynor advance to RO84
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure I hope balance council is prepping final balance 2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves Is there a place to provide feedback for maps? Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)
Tourneys
SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B Monday Nights Weeklies Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group A
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise
Brood War
General
ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site [ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals
Tourneys
[ASL19] Semifinal B [ASL19] Semifinal A BSL Nation Wars 2 - Grand Finals - Saturday 21:00 [ASL19] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Grand Theft Auto VI Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games? Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
NHL Playoffs 2024 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Racial Distribution over MMR …
Navane
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12986 users

[WCS EU] Premier Ro32 Group D Season 3 2014 - Page 24

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 29 Next All
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#461
havent watched WCS EU in a while do they not do player interviews anymore after they advance?
Like for TLO now?
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#462
wtf just happened x)
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:53:33
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#463
On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.

And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day
yea i think people forget sometimes that sports standings and playoffs are never meant to be "fair," its just entertainment/contest of endurance really with skill just giving you a generally higher chance of succeeding
TL+ Member
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#464
On August 27 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
could someone confirm that confirmation?


confirming your confirmation, confirmed
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Knatterking
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany405 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#465
On August 27 2014 03:52 stuchiu wrote:
could someone confirm that confirmation?

CONFIRMED
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#466
On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.

And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day

And to adapt their builds.
That's what happens in chess matches, between rounds players try to find holes in the openings of their opponents. Becomes more and more difficult, because everybody is using chess engines that are stronger than the human WC.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:54:53
August 26 2014 18:54 GMT
#467
The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 26 2014 18:54 GMT
#468
TLO CONFIRMED to be very Creative™
TL+ Member
Don Jimbo
Profile Joined August 2014
70 Posts
August 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#469
I'm so happy for TLO! Congrats to Liquid!
When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#470
On August 27 2014 03:53 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:44 Squat wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:42 brickrd wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:41 stuchiu wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:34 Jono7272 wrote:
It's just first move advantage right? I'm a chess noob.. but white goes first right?

yes white first and ~54-46 winratio for white theoretically. But it is balanced because they play bo12 (both play 6x white and black).


I think I remember the commentators during the World Chess Championship saying that bo12 was too variable.

statistically speaking i think any series length that doesn't last for days is probably too variable in any sport

If we truly wanted to know who was the best SC2 player, we'd have the top 10ish prepare for about six months, and then play Bo75 or something against each other. Luck, happenstance and daily form will always be huge factors when the fate of a player is decided in 2-4 games.

And bo75 should be separated to several days incase players have bad day
yea i think people forget sometimes that sports standings and playoffs are never meant to be "fair," its just entertainment/contest of endurance really with skill just giving you a generally higher chance of succeeding


Yeah. Most sports' formats aren't in any way optimal to get a fair test of skill. They have an excessively long season to allow the home crowds to see their team play followed by a short playoff to crown a winner.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#471
Yay TLO!! :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 26 2014 18:57 GMT
#472
On August 27 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.

You have no idea.
The longest Karpov-Kasparov lasted over 5 months, from 10th September 1984 to 15th February 1985.
It was abandoned after 48 games, Karpov's health had deteriorated too much.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
August 26 2014 18:58 GMT
#473
uThermal's ingame ID used to be Traditional, iirc
Words.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#474
Like the Onion headline for the world cup where they said the pronunciation book for the Dutch team was 2000 pages long.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 19:00:43
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#475
On August 27 2014 03:57 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
The best formula would be a best of 30ish with each day 10 games being played. Would be in fact quite similar to old chess world championships matches like Karpov - Kasparov.

You have no idea.
The longest Karpov-Kasparov lasted over 5 months, from 10th September 1984 to 15th February 1985.
It was abandoned after 48 games, Karpov's health had deteriorated too much.


I actually had an idea being a fair amateur chess player, but I don't think such long matches would even be entertaining. So I preferred a best of 30 to something crazy like they did at the time. The analogue would probably be a BO500 and barely make any sense.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#476
Thats pretty good by Apollo, thats pretty close to how it sounds.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#477
shenkahau HAU HAUsen
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 19:01:04
August 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#478
NETHERLANDS ARE GOING TO GET REKT

BLUEWHITE > ORANGE
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#479
More single port into SCV pulls woop woop.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7099 Posts
August 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#480
SUOMI TORI PERKELE!
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL Code S
09:30
Group Stage 2 - Group A
ByuN vs RogueLIVE!
herO vs Cure
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 244
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2841
Jaedong 1237
BeSt 472
Pusan 410
Stork 288
ZerO 186
Light 138
Mong 91
hero 87
Rush 52
[ Show more ]
sSak 52
ToSsGirL 33
NaDa 20
zelot 20
Noble 15
Shine 15
IntoTheRainbow 13
Sharp 11
yabsab 10
Bale 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
ivOry 2
Britney 1
Dota 2
XcaliburYe466
BananaSlamJamma319
420jenkins165
Fuzer 116
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1775
shoxiejesuss907
Stewie2K591
byalli261
x6flipin153
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor169
Other Games
singsing1318
XaKoH 192
SortOf180
DeMusliM23
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL28510
Other Games
gamesdonequick753
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 405
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv143
Other Games
BasetradeTV70
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 42
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota279
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
14h 17m
GSL Code S
23h 47m
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
1d
RSL Revival
1d 13h
GSL Code S
1d 23h
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
SOOP
3 days
HeRoMaRinE vs Astrea
Online Event
3 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.