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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1141
On August 25 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
wow he beat Petraeus he must be the best player ever

TaeJa > Petraeus > Supernova > Jaedong. Not bad TaeJa

so all we know is that TaeJa is better than some Code B players

I mean he did beat Zest, that's at least final round of Code A qualifiers..
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1142
On August 25 2014 04:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:13 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:12 Cheren wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:06 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

A runner 2-0'd by a legit GSL Korean? How shocking!

the term runner is probably the most stupid term ever

What does runner mean

some guy used it to describe the koreans who changed their wcs region from korea to something else. and they are obviously running because they have no skill etc


The people who use that term must be really sad every time Taeja obliterates a Kespa player.


All flukes, I assure you


He can't get to the finals of WCS America, do you really think he'd win GSL or be that notable if he never left Korea?


He did make two GSL semis, one of them at the height of BL/Infestor.


Competition is a lot tougher now though than when it was then


I don't agree. All the top players at the time were in Korea while now there has been some seepage into the different regions. Additionally the balance conditions were alot more unfavourable for terran then.


KesPA in WoL was pretty bad compared to KesPA in HotS, however.
Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1143
On August 25 2014 04:13 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:12 Cheren wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:06 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:04 Undead1993 wrote:
funny that taeja says he is confident in his tvz after he got 2:0d by action


A runner 2-0'd by a legit GSL Korean? How shocking!

the term runner is probably the most stupid term ever

What does runner mean

some guy used it to describe the koreans who changed their wcs region from korea to something else. and they are obviously running because they have no skill etc


The people who use that term must be really sad every time Taeja obliterates a Kespa player.


All flukes, I assure you


He can't get to the finals of WCS America, do you really think he'd win GSL or be that notable if he never left Korea?


He did make two GSL semis, one of them at the height of BL/Infestor.


Competition is a lot tougher now though than when it was then



People who say that do not seem to think their statement through....Oh right players have gotten better! Meanwhile Taeja has simply stopped getting better right? Also so sick of this ''Taeja would suck in KR'' yet he defeats players like Innovation,Zest etc all of whom are possible GSL champions and people just go ''Oh he was probably just jetlagged!''
Top10 favorite players: 1. Jaedong 2. Naniwa 3. Maru 4. ThorZaIN 5. Taeja 6. HerO 7. MC 8. Hyun 9. Soulkey 10. herO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1144
On August 25 2014 04:18 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
wow he beat Petraeus he must be the best player ever

TaeJa > Petraeus > Supernova > Jaedong. Not bad TaeJa

so all we know is that TaeJa is better than some Code B players


taeja 3 - 0 zest remember?


In taeja's own words, Zest got lucky to win that gsl
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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1145
On August 25 2014 04:17 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:12 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:10 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:06 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:04 Undead1993 wrote:
funny that taeja says he is confident in his tvz after he got 2:0d by action


A runner 2-0'd by a legit GSL Korean? How shocking!

the term runner is probably the most stupid term ever

What does runner mean

Pretty much any player that left Korea for "easy money" because winning isn't what competition is about. Supposedly the Korean netizens despise them because they're A) cowards and B) bad.

C) Smarter.
D) Richer.

People hate it when other people are both smarter and richer

Eh, in Korea it's a lot more about the prestige not about money from what I've read.

Progaming is a short-lived career. Choosing not to take options that allow you to make more money in that short space of time is pretty dumb.


It's dumb from how we see it but from an entirely different cultural perspective it make no sense at all to someone.


I don't think you should speak for Koreans. Samsung is Korean, they definiately make more money than prestige.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1146
On August 25 2014 04:18 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
wow he beat Petraeus he must be the best player ever

TaeJa > Petraeus > Supernova > Jaedong. Not bad TaeJa

so all we know is that TaeJa is better than some Code B players


taeja 3 - 0 zest remember?

pigbaby 3-0 Taeja
pigbaby a literal god 10x gsl champ
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1147
Awesome match by Petraeus, so close.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1148
If Taeja goes 12-0 again they should just crown him bonjwa and disallow him entering any more tournaments
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1149
On August 25 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
wow he beat Petraeus he must be the best player ever

TaeJa > Petraeus > Supernova > Jaedong. Not bad TaeJa

so all we know is that TaeJa is better than some Code B players

he beat zest like only 1-2 months ago so i dunno if he is jsut better than random code b players.
nvrs
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece481 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1150
On August 25 2014 04:17 FuRRie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:15 Zheryn wrote:
I don't understand how Taeja didn't get more behind from doing 0 damage with that early attack, terran is confusing


Terran doesn't really invest anything in that either.





Haha, how about trying to pull that of yourself? Taeja won all the engagements after the initial attack that didn;t do any damage, if you couldnt come back after that then we would always gg after 7 minutes.
Nothing more to it
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1151
On August 25 2014 04:18 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:16 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:15 Zheryn wrote:
I don't understand how Taeja didn't get more behind from doing 0 damage with that early attack, terran is confusing


Taeja is top 3 Terran in the world, and Petraeus is not Soulkey or soO?


Doesn't mean that both players can't macro close to perfectly the first 10 minutes of the game

Taeja macro'd perfectly. Patraeus didn't. Taeja was up 20 supply when he pushed the third.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1152
On August 25 2014 04:19 Varroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:13 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:12 Cheren wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:06 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

A runner 2-0'd by a legit GSL Korean? How shocking!

the term runner is probably the most stupid term ever

What does runner mean

some guy used it to describe the koreans who changed their wcs region from korea to something else. and they are obviously running because they have no skill etc


The people who use that term must be really sad every time Taeja obliterates a Kespa player.


All flukes, I assure you


He can't get to the finals of WCS America, do you really think he'd win GSL or be that notable if he never left Korea?


He did make two GSL semis, one of them at the height of BL/Infestor.


Competition is a lot tougher now though than when it was then



People who say that do not seem to think their statement through....Oh right players have gotten better! Meanwhile Taeja has simply stopped getting better right? Also so sick of this ''Taeja would suck in KR'' yet he defeats players like Innovation,Zest etc all of whom are possible GSL champions and people just go ''Oh he was probably just jetlagged!''


People are just salty that Flash and Jaedong haven't instantly dominated everything.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1153
On August 25 2014 04:19 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:18 Jer99 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
wow he beat Petraeus he must be the best player ever

TaeJa > Petraeus > Supernova > Jaedong. Not bad TaeJa

so all we know is that TaeJa is better than some Code B players


taeja 3 - 0 zest remember?


In taeja's own words, Zest got lucky to win that gsl

he got lucky both times?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_GSL_Global_Championship

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1

what a lucker
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 24 2014 19:20 GMT
#1154
On August 25 2014 04:19 Varroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:13 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:12 Cheren wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:06 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

A runner 2-0'd by a legit GSL Korean? How shocking!

the term runner is probably the most stupid term ever

What does runner mean

some guy used it to describe the koreans who changed their wcs region from korea to something else. and they are obviously running because they have no skill etc


The people who use that term must be really sad every time Taeja obliterates a Kespa player.


All flukes, I assure you


He can't get to the finals of WCS America, do you really think he'd win GSL or be that notable if he never left Korea?


He did make two GSL semis, one of them at the height of BL/Infestor.


Competition is a lot tougher now though than when it was then



People who say that do not seem to think their statement through....Oh right players have gotten better! Meanwhile Taeja has simply stopped getting better right? Also so sick of this ''Taeja would suck in KR'' yet he defeats players like Innovation,Zest etc all of whom are possible GSL champions and people just go ''Oh he was probably just jetlagged!''


He wouldn't suck, he just wouldn't get as much press since people don't give people who make deep GSL runs as much credit as people who win foreign tournaments.

Liquipedia is wrong, there is only one premier tournament, and it's called GSL.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#1155
On August 25 2014 04:20 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:19 stuchiu wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 Jer99 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 Shellshock wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:17 Shellshock wrote:
wow he beat Petraeus he must be the best player ever

TaeJa > Petraeus > Supernova > Jaedong. Not bad TaeJa

so all we know is that TaeJa is better than some Code B players


taeja 3 - 0 zest remember?


In taeja's own words, Zest got lucky to win that gsl

he got lucky both times?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_GSL_Global_Championship

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1

what a lucker


As lucky as Dear was to win his two?
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#1156
On August 25 2014 04:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If Taeja goes 12-0 again they should just crown him bonjwa and disallow him entering any more tournaments


lol bonjwa from foreign tournaments. that's a good joke
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#1157
If we're following patterns of last 3 series, Petraeus will win this map and then Taeja will win the third.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#1158
On August 25 2014 04:20 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:19 Varroth wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:13 AWalker9 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:12 Cheren wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Jazzman88 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:09 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:07 Undead1993 wrote:
[quote]
the term runner is probably the most stupid term ever

What does runner mean

some guy used it to describe the koreans who changed their wcs region from korea to something else. and they are obviously running because they have no skill etc


The people who use that term must be really sad every time Taeja obliterates a Kespa player.


All flukes, I assure you


He can't get to the finals of WCS America, do you really think he'd win GSL or be that notable if he never left Korea?


He did make two GSL semis, one of them at the height of BL/Infestor.


Competition is a lot tougher now though than when it was then



People who say that do not seem to think their statement through....Oh right players have gotten better! Meanwhile Taeja has simply stopped getting better right? Also so sick of this ''Taeja would suck in KR'' yet he defeats players like Innovation,Zest etc all of whom are possible GSL champions and people just go ''Oh he was probably just jetlagged!''


People are just salty that Flash and Jaedong haven't instantly dominated everything.


Flash's record is better than Taeja's this summer, so it's only Jaedong fans who are salty at the moment, but they're always salty.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#1159
On August 25 2014 04:18 Loccstana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:17 FuRRie wrote:
On August 25 2014 04:15 Zheryn wrote:
I don't understand how Taeja didn't get more behind from doing 0 damage with that early attack, terran is confusing


Terran doesn't really invest anything in that either.





Because Taeja has excellent macro,obviously


Well ofc.

Assuming good macro and not losing medivac/marines during the drop.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#1160
On August 25 2014 04:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If Taeja goes 12-0 again they should just crown him bonjwa and disallow him entering any more tournaments


lol bonjwa from foreign tournaments. that's a good joke

ca$hjwa
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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