• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:15
CEST 08:15
KST 15:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Bitcoin discussion thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 775 users

[WCS EU] Premier Ro32 Group A Season 3 2014 - Page 34

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 45 Next All
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#661
On August 20 2014 03:59 ClueClueClue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 03:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
On August 20 2014 03:54 Shellshock wrote:
anyone else notice how protoss has a 0% series win rate in nonmirrors so far this season in EU?


pretty sure that stardust took a game off miniraiser and patience a game off snute.


Series. But don't hook onto that bait either way.


Lol, I thought that was a typo of serious.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#662
On August 20 2014 04:07 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:06 vult wrote:


awesome.


Yeah, funny stuff! :D
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#663
On August 20 2014 04:03 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:03 BlackCompany wrote:
On August 20 2014 04:01 JustPassingBy wrote:
A winrate of 66% vs 33% is ridiculously close, if you consider that the sample size is only six games.
In fact, it lies in a 95% conficende intervall.

Can we stop talking about Protoss' poor winrate and discuss Terran? Terran is so weak they didnt even have a chance to play

They have lost 0 games so far. That's pretty OP man

Nah, the glass is always half empty. 0 games won!

Well Miniraser got out first, i hope Showtime can pull the next upset in his group!
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#664
On August 20 2014 04:07 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:07 Shellshock wrote:
On August 20 2014 04:06 boxerfred wrote:
On August 20 2014 04:06 Shellshock wrote:
Poll: Who will advance in 2nd?

(Vote): Snute
(Vote): StarDust


Patience

bold call

EVERYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THAT GROUP

Stardust forfeits and Patience beats Snute.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#665
minirazer personal sponsorship incoming
TL+ Member
babobbyj
Profile Joined June 2013
636 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#666
On August 20 2014 04:06 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:05 babobbyj wrote:
It's so extremely sad to watch a player go thru, who has no chance what so ever to get thru the next round, over a player who can actually get to blizzcon.. so sad.

Going thru with only cheesy plays isnt viable in the long run, not at all


Yeah, players like MC and Maru stopped doing cheesy play after a while. That's why they're so successful!


I don't think you should compare miniraser with MC and Maru... miniraser is more like Lillekanin, yeah it's successfull for a few times, then ppl know he's just going cheesy and completely shuts him down as he won't stand a chance in normal macro games.
Bad Ass Bobby Johnson, a.k.a. Valiante
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 19 2014 19:08 GMT
#667
On August 20 2014 04:07 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:05 babobbyj wrote:
It's so extremely sad to watch a player go thru, who has no chance what so ever to get thru the next round, over a player who can actually get to blizzcon.. so sad.

Going thru with only cheesy plays isnt viable in the long run, not at all

are you a zerg player? 1/1 melee lings isn't a cheese. gas first with fake expo is a little cheesy i'll give you that but snute's weakness is his greed.

doesn't matter, miniraser will go THRU ALL DA COMPETITION
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 19 2014 19:09 GMT
#668
Maximum protoss salt or maximum foreign salt. Can't choose
Community News
TL+ Member
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 19 2014 19:09 GMT
#669
On August 20 2014 04:06 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:05 usethis2 wrote:
I know nothing about zvz but that looks like a cool strat. Is it?

it's very sick and the koreans have been popularizing it a lot. even if it doesn't work you usually are able to reduce the army size/cancel the third/do a runby etc. and still go into a macro game. on ladder it can absolutely annihilate players who are just going vanilla 1/1 roach macro

Very interesting. It's coming at a totally unexpected timing, too, at least for the version miniraser pulled off. You would think there would be roaches all over the map past 10 minute mark in a zvz.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 19:11:04
August 19 2014 19:10 GMT
#670
On August 20 2014 04:05 babobbyj wrote:
It's so extremely sad to watch a player go thru, who has no chance what so ever to get thru the next round


You must be unfamiliar with how Thorzain became famous.

+ Show Spoiler +
TSL3. No Name -> Stomped every top player -> Won the whole tournament.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 19 2014 19:10 GMT
#671
On August 20 2014 04:09 Lorning wrote:
Maximum protoss salt or maximum foreign salt. Can't choose


Protoss salt
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
August 19 2014 19:10 GMT
#672
I prefer this style from Mini over his stalemate play of past tournaments. It was glorious while it lasted tho ~
Cogito, ergo toss.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 19 2014 19:11 GMT
#673
On August 20 2014 04:10 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:09 Lorning wrote:
Maximum protoss salt or maximum foreign salt. Can't choose


Protoss salt

Surprising, coming from a protoss player
Community News
TL+ Member
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 19 2014 19:11 GMT
#674
This is a huge match coming up.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 19:11 GMT
#675
Miniraser doesn't even have a fanclub to post in...
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 19 2014 19:11 GMT
#676
On August 20 2014 04:08 babobbyj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:06 DJHelium wrote:
On August 20 2014 04:05 babobbyj wrote:
It's so extremely sad to watch a player go thru, who has no chance what so ever to get thru the next round, over a player who can actually get to blizzcon.. so sad.

Going thru with only cheesy plays isnt viable in the long run, not at all


Yeah, players like MC and Maru stopped doing cheesy play after a while. That's why they're so successful!


I don't think you should compare miniraser with MC and Maru... miniraser is more like Lillekanin, yeah it's successfull for a few times, then ppl know he's just going cheesy and completely shuts him down as he won't stand a chance in normal macro games.


Cheesy plays are a big part of the game, especially in tournaments like this where you get to prepare for your opponents.

Miniraser has showed good macro games in the past as well. I wouldn't write him off!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 19 2014 19:11 GMT
#677
On August 20 2014 04:11 vult wrote:
This is a huge match coming up.

How huge?
Community News
TL+ Member
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 19 2014 19:12 GMT
#678
On August 20 2014 04:09 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:06 brickrd wrote:
On August 20 2014 04:05 usethis2 wrote:
I know nothing about zvz but that looks like a cool strat. Is it?

it's very sick and the koreans have been popularizing it a lot. even if it doesn't work you usually are able to reduce the army size/cancel the third/do a runby etc. and still go into a macro game. on ladder it can absolutely annihilate players who are just going vanilla 1/1 roach macro

Very interesting. It's coming at a totally unexpected timing, too, at least for the version miniraser pulled off. You would think there would be roaches all over the map past 10 minute mark in a zvz.

it's all about the zvz meta. a lot of players will straight up assume macro roach and cut out little details like ling/overlord pokes because for so long everything was just mass roach. i think as the meta develops the melee style will become weaker as players get more tentative to move out without information (especially reading into lack of moveout from opponent), but it should still be a good style to mix in
TL+ Member
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 19 2014 19:12 GMT
#679
On August 20 2014 04:06 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:05 usethis2 wrote:
I know nothing about zvz but that looks like a cool strat. Is it?

it's very sick and the koreans have been popularizing it a lot. even if it doesn't work you usually are able to reduce the army size/cancel the third/do a runby etc. and still go into a macro game. on ladder it can absolutely annihilate players who are just going vanilla 1/1 roach macro

Toodming tried something similar in WCS, but he botched his timings a bit I think. Mini hit them perfectly, his defense at the third was so clutch. Mini has really improved.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 19 2014 19:12 GMT
#680
On August 20 2014 04:11 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 04:11 vult wrote:
This is a huge match coming up.

How huge?


Tefel throw vs Mvp
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 45 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#43
davetesta30
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech7
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 5568
ggaemo 2623
Zeus 925
Backho 306
Larva 276
PianO 179
Nal_rA 169
Dewaltoss 72
Aegong 56
Leta 46
[ Show more ]
Noble 17
ivOry 2
Shuttle 0
Stormgate
WinterStarcraft1029
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K273
Other Games
summit1g7407
Fnx 2742
shahzam691
Tasteless140
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick826
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 42
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 68
• Sammyuel 39
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1501
• Stunt163
• HappyZerGling153
Other Games
• Scarra1051
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4h 46m
Stormgate Nexus
7h 46m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
9h 46m
The PondCast
1d 3h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.