On August 09 2014 23:22 Rollora wrote: Hahaha such a SATISFYING Finals. As a little bit of flash fan, I always hated of all those who just didn't really care about who won against flash when he lost, but all they wrote is "them flash fanboy tears" or whatever. Now the 2nd game already made this finals worth watching: Flash playing totally as predicted, still he CRUSHES, DESTROYS, DISMANTLES Parting in a way Parting never could do to Flash. Then all the SKT Fanboys, that didn't cheer for good games but just hate on KT. "Oh them KT Fanboy Tears". HAHAHAHA. Sad for SKT and their Fans, but to thos morons who just feel better if others cry HAHAHAHA feels so good. And then, FROST. Come on, a Terran that is chosen to play on one of the biggest maps, vs Classic and the Protoss goes for PURE GREED. THANK GOD TY found a build to punish it, although with a little bit of thinking totally predictable that classic will be going Nex First and TY playing the only good cheese Terran has And then Flash MVP ♥
Only thing that needs to change is that big tournaments work with NASL Sound Guy.
you're right about everything except PartinG IN FACT DID dismantle Flash like today Flash did to PartinG, watch PL R1 PartinG vs Flash on Star Station ad you'll know
kk I will thx for the watching tip, but leave me my joy
Also I wanna point out, that the patch had nothing to do with it (or not much), because there were no WMs. There was a (perfect) timewarp, which would have made a difference in the fight, but not have won Parting the game.
PartinG didnt have enough Zealots and Colossi to comabt that marauder heavy and Viking Heavy army, he had too many Stalkers
If he didnt have enough stalkers, what can protect colossi? Just give to terran?
On August 09 2014 23:22 Rollora wrote: Hahaha such a SATISFYING Finals. As a little bit of flash fan, I always hated of all those who just didn't really care about who won against flash when he lost, but all they wrote is "them flash fanboy tears" or whatever. Now the 2nd game already made this finals worth watching: Flash playing totally as predicted, still he CRUSHES, DESTROYS, DISMANTLES Parting in a way Parting never could do to Flash. Then all the SKT Fanboys, that didn't cheer for good games but just hate on KT. "Oh them KT Fanboy Tears". HAHAHAHA. Sad for SKT and their Fans, but to thos morons who just feel better if others cry HAHAHAHA feels so good. And then, FROST. Come on, a Terran that is chosen to play on one of the biggest maps, vs Classic and the Protoss goes for PURE GREED. THANK GOD TY found a build to punish it, although with a little bit of thinking totally predictable that classic will be going Nex First and TY playing the only good cheese Terran has And then Flash MVP ♥
Only thing that needs to change is that big tournaments work with NASL Sound Guy.
you're right about everything except PartinG IN FACT DID dismantle Flash like today Flash did to PartinG, watch PL R1 PartinG vs Flash on Star Station ad you'll know
kk I will thx for the watching tip, but leave me my joy
Also I wanna point out, that the patch had nothing to do with it (or not much), because there were no WMs. There was a (perfect) timewarp, which would have made a difference in the fight, but not have won Parting the game.
PartinG didnt have enough Zealots and Colossi to comabt that marauder heavy and Viking Heavy army, he had too many Stalkers
yeah his army composition was wrong, but it was more of a PERFECT preparation from flash: Note the timings on his marines, how much he killed, predicted. PERFECT. Note he only made 1 ebay, because he just wanted to get this 1-1 out and not spend extra minerals on another ebay. Note that he knew exactly what would hit him, made only vikings out of 2 starports after he had 4 medivacs.
Compared to the VOD you send me Parting couldnt do all this. Yes, he won and really beat flash down, but compared to the win today, everything he tried to bring an early game advantage (Early Zealot Push, Oracle) was denied. Also the game you noted was more won by mindgame then pure batlling it out, in a straight up game.
I always feel betrayed when protoss win by doing something unexpected, then by battling it out in a game through control, micro, macro etc.
So the victory of today was definately clearer then the round 1 victory, though it was still impressive but just won on false assumptions and also on the problem of protoss being very save while still playing greedy - at least at the beginning of Hots (though it still happens that a 3 Medivac drop does NOTHING when a High templar and 2 Charelots are at home (when there is a warpin avaliable)
After watching the VOD, it's actually amazing how well Flash was prepared for PartinG style. Really impressive.
Yeah. He knew exactly when Parting would take third so he sent 4 marines down to the third to deny the probe. Then he hid his marines until the stalkers pushed into his main, killing 3 probes and (more importantly) forcing an overcharge. Then he went viking heavy against parting's colossus play, and then even got out ghosts in the end to EMP everything and take the victory.
He was always one step ahead without even scouting the whole of PartinG's build. He had just prepared so well he was literally inside his head. Very seldom do you see such level of preparation even in GSL.
come on i'm a flash fan but by no means did he definitely crush parting. he hit a good timing with good preparation and that's it, well played, but he still has a long way to go before being back at his "God" level in BW, which is miles ahead of what anyone has ever done in recent years (yes even MVP).
when he starts shoving tanks down best's throat, or having his bio walk straight into soulkey's base giving no fucks, or just slapping a zerg around in the grand finals (poor zero) - then you can say he's back.
On August 10 2014 00:06 shadymmj wrote: come on i'm a flash fan but by no means did he definitely crush parting. he hit a good timing with good preparation and that's it, well played, but he still has a long way to go before being back at his "God" level in BW, which is miles ahead of what anyone has ever done in recent years (yes even MVP).
when he starts shoving tanks down best's throat, or having his bio walk straight into soulkey's base giving no fucks, or just slapping a zerg around in the grand finals (poor zero) - then you can say he's back.
On August 09 2014 23:22 Rollora wrote: Hahaha such a SATISFYING Finals. As a little bit of flash fan, I always hated of all those who just didn't really care about who won against flash when he lost, but all they wrote is "them flash fanboy tears" or whatever. Now the 2nd game already made this finals worth watching: Flash playing totally as predicted, still he CRUSHES, DESTROYS, DISMANTLES Parting in a way Parting never could do to Flash. Then all the SKT Fanboys, that didn't cheer for good games but just hate on KT. "Oh them KT Fanboy Tears". HAHAHAHA. Sad for SKT and their Fans, but to thos morons who just feel better if others cry HAHAHAHA feels so good. And then, FROST. Come on, a Terran that is chosen to play on one of the biggest maps, vs Classic and the Protoss goes for PURE GREED. THANK GOD TY found a build to punish it, although with a little bit of thinking totally predictable that classic will be going Nex First and TY playing the only good cheese Terran has And then Flash MVP ♥
Only thing that needs to change is that big tournaments work with NASL Sound Guy.
you're right about everything except PartinG IN FACT DID dismantle Flash like today Flash did to PartinG, watch PL R1 PartinG vs Flash on Star Station ad you'll know
kk I will thx for the watching tip, but leave me my joy
Also I wanna point out, that the patch had nothing to do with it (or not much), because there were no WMs. There was a (perfect) timewarp, which would have made a difference in the fight, but not have won Parting the game.
PartinG didnt have enough Zealots and Colossi to comabt that marauder heavy and Viking Heavy army, he had too many Stalkers
yeah his army composition was wrong, but it was more of a PERFECT preparation from flash: Note the timings on his marines, how much he killed, predicted. PERFECT. Note he only made 1 ebay, because he just wanted to get this 1-1 out and not spend extra minerals on another ebay. Note that he knew exactly what would hit him, made only vikings out of 2 starports after he had 4 medivacs.
Compared to the VOD you send me ( ) Parting couldnt do all this. Yes, he won and really beat flash down, but compared to the win today, everything he tried to bring an early game advantage (Early Zealot Push, Oracle) was denied. Also the game you noted was more won by mindgame then pure batlling it out, in a straight up game.
I always feel betrayed when protoss win by doing something unexpected, then by battling it out in a game through control, micro, macro etc.
So the victory of today was definately clearer then the round 1 victory, though it was still impressive but just won on false assumptions and also on the problem of protoss being very save while still playing greedy - at least at the beginning of Hots (though it still happens that a 3 Medivac drop does NOTHING when a High templar and 2 Charelots are at home (when there is a warpin avaliable)
nice Analysis, still a beatdown by PartinG, but yeah, Flash did everyhitng righte and won the game, Fair and square
yeah in 2014 I think Flash got beatwodn A LOT by parting (somewhere in this thread I saw something like 4-0 for parting), so this was his revenge and it was good. I guess god only showed mercy in the first couple of games
On August 09 2014 23:22 Rollora wrote: Hahaha such a SATISFYING Finals. As a little bit of flash fan, I always hated of all those who just didn't really care about who won against flash when he lost, but all they wrote is "them flash fanboy tears" or whatever. Now the 2nd game already made this finals worth watching: Flash playing totally as predicted, still he CRUSHES, DESTROYS, DISMANTLES Parting in a way Parting never could do to Flash. Then all the SKT Fanboys, that didn't cheer for good games but just hate on KT. "Oh them KT Fanboy Tears". HAHAHAHA. Sad for SKT and their Fans, but to thos morons who just feel better if others cry HAHAHAHA feels so good. And then, FROST. Come on, a Terran that is chosen to play on one of the biggest maps, vs Classic and the Protoss goes for PURE GREED. THANK GOD TY found a build to punish it, although with a little bit of thinking totally predictable that classic will be going Nex First and TY playing the only good cheese Terran has And then Flash MVP ♥
Only thing that needs to change is that big tournaments work with NASL Sound Guy.
you're right about everything except PartinG IN FACT DID dismantle Flash like today Flash did to PartinG, watch PL R1 PartinG vs Flash on Star Station ad you'll know
kk I will thx for the watching tip, but leave me my joy
Also I wanna point out, that the patch had nothing to do with it (or not much), because there were no WMs. There was a (perfect) timewarp, which would have made a difference in the fight, but not have won Parting the game.
PartinG didnt have enough Zealots and Colossi to comabt that marauder heavy and Viking Heavy army, he had too many Stalkers
yeah his army composition was wrong, but it was more of a PERFECT preparation from flash: Note the timings on his marines, how much he killed, predicted. PERFECT. Note he only made 1 ebay, because he just wanted to get this 1-1 out and not spend extra minerals on another ebay. Note that he knew exactly what would hit him, made only vikings out of 2 starports after he had 4 medivacs.
Compared to the VOD you send me Parting couldnt do all this. Yes, he won and really beat flash down, but compared to the win today, everything he tried to bring an early game advantage (Early Zealot Push, Oracle) was denied. Also the game you noted was more won by mindgame then pure batlling it out, in a straight up game.
I always feel betrayed when protoss win by doing something unexpected, then by battling it out in a game through control, micro, macro etc.
So the victory of today was definately clearer then the round 1 victory, though it was still impressive but just won on false assumptions and also on the problem of protoss being very save while still playing greedy - at least at the beginning of Hots (though it still happens that a 3 Medivac drop does NOTHING when a High templar and 2 Charelots are at home (when there is a warpin avaliable)
After watching the VOD, it's actually amazing how well Flash was prepared for PartinG style. Really impressive.
Yeah. He knew exactly when Parting would take third so he sent 4 marines down to the third to deny the probe. Then he hid his marines until the stalkers pushed into his main, killing 3 probes and (more importantly) forcing an overcharge. Then he went viking heavy against parting's colossus play, and then even got out ghosts in the end to EMP everything and take the victory.
He was always one step ahead without even scouting the whole of PartinG's build. He had just prepared so well he was literally inside his head. Very seldom do you see such level of preparation even in GSL.
thats what I meant: he was like with a maphack on, but even better cause with a maphack he would propably react to what parting does, but he even was ahead before parting did something and that was so impressive. He didn't give Parting the slightest chance, even managed to sneak 4 marines into the natural to scout AND kill probes.
Since I play all 3 races and I never could do something with T I am extremely impressed and you are right, we don't see such thing all too often
On August 09 2014 23:22 Rollora wrote: Hahaha such a SATISFYING Finals. As a little bit of flash fan, I always hated of all those who just didn't really care about who won against flash when he lost, but all they wrote is "them flash fanboy tears" or whatever. Now the 2nd game already made this finals worth watching: Flash playing totally as predicted, still he CRUSHES, DESTROYS, DISMANTLES Parting in a way Parting never could do to Flash. Then all the SKT Fanboys, that didn't cheer for good games but just hate on KT. "Oh them KT Fanboy Tears". HAHAHAHA. Sad for SKT and their Fans, but to thos morons who just feel better if others cry HAHAHAHA feels so good. And then, FROST. Come on, a Terran that is chosen to play on one of the biggest maps, vs Classic and the Protoss goes for PURE GREED. THANK GOD TY found a build to punish it, although with a little bit of thinking totally predictable that classic will be going Nex First and TY playing the only good cheese Terran has And then Flash MVP ♥
Only thing that needs to change is that big tournaments work with NASL Sound Guy.
you're right about everything except PartinG IN FACT DID dismantle Flash like today Flash did to PartinG, watch PL R1 PartinG vs Flash on Star Station ad you'll know
kk I will thx for the watching tip, but leave me my joy
Also I wanna point out, that the patch had nothing to do with it (or not much), because there were no WMs. There was a (perfect) timewarp, which would have made a difference in the fight, but not have won Parting the game.
PartinG didnt have enough Zealots and Colossi to comabt that marauder heavy and Viking Heavy army, he had too many Stalkers
yeah his army composition was wrong, but it was more of a PERFECT preparation from flash: Note the timings on his marines, how much he killed, predicted. PERFECT. Note he only made 1 ebay, because he just wanted to get this 1-1 out and not spend extra minerals on another ebay. Note that he knew exactly what would hit him, made only vikings out of 2 starports after he had 4 medivacs.
Compared to the VOD you send me Parting couldnt do all this. Yes, he won and really beat flash down, but compared to the win today, everything he tried to bring an early game advantage (Early Zealot Push, Oracle) was denied. Also the game you noted was more won by mindgame then pure batlling it out, in a straight up game.
I always feel betrayed when protoss win by doing something unexpected, then by battling it out in a game through control, micro, macro etc.
So the victory of today was definately clearer then the round 1 victory, though it was still impressive but just won on false assumptions and also on the problem of protoss being very save while still playing greedy - at least at the beginning of Hots (though it still happens that a 3 Medivac drop does NOTHING when a High templar and 2 Charelots are at home (when there is a warpin avaliable)
After watching the VOD, it's actually amazing how well Flash was prepared for PartinG style. Really impressive.
Yeah. He knew exactly when Parting would take third so he sent 4 marines down to the third to deny the probe. Then he hid his marines until the stalkers pushed into his main, killing 3 probes and (more importantly) forcing an overcharge. Then he went viking heavy against parting's colossus play, and then even got out ghosts in the end to EMP everything and take the victory.
He was always one step ahead without even scouting the whole of PartinG's build. He had just prepared so well he was literally inside his head. Very seldom do you see such level of preparation even in GSL.
TBH Parting has been playing this style for a while. He started it around 3 months ago vs TY:
What he did vs Flash was very similar to his most recent PvT vs Bunny: .
On August 09 2014 23:22 Rollora wrote: Hahaha such a SATISFYING Finals. As a little bit of flash fan, I always hated of all those who just didn't really care about who won against flash when he lost, but all they wrote is "them flash fanboy tears" or whatever. Now the 2nd game already made this finals worth watching: Flash playing totally as predicted, still he CRUSHES, DESTROYS, DISMANTLES Parting in a way Parting never could do to Flash. Then all the SKT Fanboys, that didn't cheer for good games but just hate on KT. "Oh them KT Fanboy Tears". HAHAHAHA. Sad for SKT and their Fans, but to thos morons who just feel better if others cry HAHAHAHA feels so good. And then, FROST. Come on, a Terran that is chosen to play on one of the biggest maps, vs Classic and the Protoss goes for PURE GREED. THANK GOD TY found a build to punish it, although with a little bit of thinking totally predictable that classic will be going Nex First and TY playing the only good cheese Terran has And then Flash MVP ♥
Only thing that needs to change is that big tournaments work with NASL Sound Guy.
you're right about everything except PartinG IN FACT DID dismantle Flash like today Flash did to PartinG, watch PL R1 PartinG vs Flash on Star Station ad you'll know
well if you've read the predictions or the preview, you would have known that BOTH player's builds were exactly predicted, so both knew what they were up against. No cheese, no shannanigans, no suprises that give you the win. Just the 2 players battling it out in a straightforward game and there Flash showed his strength
kk I will thx for the watching tip, but leave me my joy
Also I wanna point out, that the patch had nothing to do with it (or not much), because there were no WMs. There was a (perfect) timewarp, which would have made a difference in the fight, but not have won Parting the game.
PartinG didnt have enough Zealots and Colossi to comabt that marauder heavy and Viking Heavy army, he had too many Stalkers
yeah his army composition was wrong, but it was more of a PERFECT preparation from flash: Note the timings on his marines, how much he killed, predicted. PERFECT. Note he only made 1 ebay, because he just wanted to get this 1-1 out and not spend extra minerals on another ebay. Note that he knew exactly what would hit him, made only vikings out of 2 starports after he had 4 medivacs.
Compared to the VOD you send me Parting couldnt do all this. Yes, he won and really beat flash down, but compared to the win today, everything he tried to bring an early game advantage (Early Zealot Push, Oracle) was denied. Also the game you noted was more won by mindgame then pure batlling it out, in a straight up game.
I always feel betrayed when protoss win by doing something unexpected, then by battling it out in a game through control, micro, macro etc.
So the victory of today was definately clearer then the round 1 victory, though it was still impressive but just won on false assumptions and also on the problem of protoss being very save while still playing greedy - at least at the beginning of Hots (though it still happens that a 3 Medivac drop does NOTHING when a High templar and 2 Charelots are at home (when there is a warpin avaliable)
After watching the VOD, it's actually amazing how well Flash was prepared for PartinG style. Really impressive.
Yeah. He knew exactly when Parting would take third so he sent 4 marines down to the third to deny the probe. Then he hid his marines until the stalkers pushed into his main, killing 3 probes and (more importantly) forcing an overcharge. Then he went viking heavy against parting's colossus play, and then even got out ghosts in the end to EMP everything and take the victory.
He was always one step ahead without even scouting the whole of PartinG's build. He had just prepared so well he was literally inside his head. Very seldom do you see such level of preparation even in GSL.
well if you've read the predictions or the preview, you would have known that BOTH player's builds were exactly predicted, so both knew what they were up against. No cheese, no shannanigans, no suprises that give you the win. Just the 2 players battling it out in a straightforward game and there Flash showed his strength
Btw great predictions Zealously and also the preview
I knew lb'ing SK was a good jinx, gg. Pretty much perfect by KT: T2-0, P1-1, Z1-1, only losing mirrors. I guess SK just doesn't have decent enough practice partners. It was good to see Fantasy didn't flee (yet), and I'd like to believe he had a plan for the ace.
EPT
Go Flash and TY!
