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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 14 2014 01:08 GMT
#2021
On July 14 2014 09:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:
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On July 14 2014 09:28 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:16 Yorkie wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:08 Yorkie wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:04 Adept wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:51 stuchiu wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:49 Faefae wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:48 stuchiu wrote:
Ewwwww has Day9 been pushing the Terran is weak storyline all redbull?

Yeah... :/


Ugh.


didn't tl run a front page article on terran being weak? kind of silly to complain about the casters following the narrative.

Yeah, kinda hard to complain about that sort of stuff after having an article all about that.

Why are people acting like "TL" wrote that article? It was an editorial by TheDwf. They just put it on the front page for a few days


If It's in featured news it's an official article endorsed by the website, I didn't say they wrote it, I said they ran it.

It does not mean each of the staff members agree with the article...Stuchiu is allowed to complain about what he wants because he never said he agreed with the editorial.


sure he can complain about whatever he wants, I would have said it regardless of who posted it. him being staff has nothing to do with it. It's silly to complain about the casters following the narrative that the largest starcraft 2 hub has put out for everyone to see.


You still haven't shown why it's silly.


part of his job is to tell the story or relay a narrative to the audience, day 9 picked a hot topic right now and ran with it to enhance the storyline of the event. you can disagree with the article or dislike the " terran is weak " narrative, but the commentators are doing their job as they should.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 01:16:40
July 14 2014 01:15 GMT
#2022
On July 14 2014 10:08 Dodgin wrote:
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On July 14 2014 09:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:28 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:16 Yorkie wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:08 Yorkie wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:04 Adept wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:51 stuchiu wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:49 Faefae wrote:
[quote]
Yeah... :/


Ugh.


didn't tl run a front page article on terran being weak? kind of silly to complain about the casters following the narrative.

Yeah, kinda hard to complain about that sort of stuff after having an article all about that.

Why are people acting like "TL" wrote that article? It was an editorial by TheDwf. They just put it on the front page for a few days


If It's in featured news it's an official article endorsed by the website, I didn't say they wrote it, I said they ran it.

It does not mean each of the staff members agree with the article...Stuchiu is allowed to complain about what he wants because he never said he agreed with the editorial.


sure he can complain about whatever he wants, I would have said it regardless of who posted it. him being staff has nothing to do with it. It's silly to complain about the casters following the narrative that the largest starcraft 2 hub has put out for everyone to see.


You still haven't shown why it's silly.


part of his job is to tell the story or relay a narrative to the audience, day 9 picked a hot topic right now and ran with it to enhance the storyline of the event. you can disagree with the article or dislike the " terran is weak " narrative, but the commentators are doing their job as they should.


I think stuichu has the right to complain if the narrative is fundamentally dishonest. Commentators should be more careful with which narratives they choose to emphasize since their words will taken as gospel by casual fans. For Red Bull, the "terran is weak" narrative is shady considering the level of competition. Polt/Bomber/Violet were always going to be the favorites regardless of race. It was simply unfortunate that Violet had to face Bomber instead of Polt, otherwise he could have possibly made the finals.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 01:33:54
July 14 2014 01:18 GMT
#2023
When you put your tempests in teapots, do they have the same range?

Seriously, this is wildly inconsequential.
No will to live, no wish to die
GENerateSAYing
Profile Joined April 2014
United States103 Posts
July 14 2014 01:47 GMT
#2024
When will VODS be available for Semi and Final?
You have to earn a chance at redemption.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 14 2014 08:26 GMT
#2025
On July 14 2014 09:04 Adept wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 08:52 Dodgin wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:51 stuchiu wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:49 Faefae wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:48 stuchiu wrote:
Ewwwww has Day9 been pushing the Terran is weak storyline all redbull?

Yeah... :/


Ugh.


didn't tl run a front page article on terran being weak? kind of silly to complain about the casters following the narrative.

Yeah, kinda hard to complain about that sort of stuff after having an article all about that.


That was an editorial by TheDwf, it didn't and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of anyone else. This was explicitly said in the article.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 14 2014 08:32 GMT
#2026
Congrats Bomber!!
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
July 14 2014 08:36 GMT
#2027
Congrats Bomber, too bad it was on at the same time as The International 4, I would really love to watch some SC2.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 09:10:03
July 14 2014 09:04 GMT
#2028
What? Does anyone deny that terran has been doing poorly in tournaments? Why is it taboo to point out that a race has been having a hard time? It's not as if Day9 was balance whining.

All races go through rough patches and pointing out that a race is currently doing so only adds to the story should a terran do well. You can talk about the different races being weak or strong without it being a complaint about balance.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 09:22:04
July 14 2014 09:18 GMT
#2029
I guess non-terran players just can't accept the facts that their race is currently OP or... lets say outperforming compared to terrans and that it is easier for them then for terrans atm.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
July 14 2014 09:22 GMT
#2030
The quality of players in this tournament was pretty bad. Many undeserved WCS points were given to players..In the meanwhile Soo, three times GSL finalist and sOs, the last world champion is possible to not qualify for Blizcon this year. It's like this tournament was specially designed to have a TvT final...
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
July 14 2014 09:52 GMT
#2031
To be honest, i must had missed day9 going with that narrative the whole tournament, but i only heard him say it after Bomber finally won the title. Yes, it was a silly comment on his part, specially taking into account the players in that tournament, but i wouldn't take it that seriously.
Novacute
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia313 Posts
July 14 2014 10:08 GMT
#2032
On July 14 2014 18:22 p14c wrote:
The quality of players in this tournament was pretty bad. Many undeserved WCS points were given to players..In the meanwhile Soo, three times GSL finalist and sOs, the last world champion is possible to not qualify for Blizcon this year. It's like this tournament was specially designed to have a TvT final...


Yeah you have to blame the WCS system. It basically favours players who have access or are able to travel to respective countries to compete for points. It really shuts out Kespa players since they're limited to competing to Korea. Sad to see tons of good players missing out. But then again, i'm not surprised a Kespa will take the final championship.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 10:40:22
July 14 2014 10:35 GMT
#2033
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FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
July 14 2014 11:04 GMT
#2034
Terran wins 1 tournament with an average playr pool and ...

people start saying Terran apparantly is master race...

gg kids.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 22:03:50
July 14 2014 12:40 GMT
#2035
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Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
July 14 2014 14:15 GMT
#2036
On July 14 2014 21:40 SatedSC2 wrote:
Not that I am saying there isn't a problem, just that I'm astounded by the negativity...

I think the negativity is more on the part of Blizzards unwillingness to communicate with the community. Nobody really thinks (or shouldn't) that players are bad because hey play a certain race, just get an advantage. Not the players fault if there are flaws in the game. Blizzards seeming unwillingness to talk or hasty implementation of patches is what draws the ire of the community (in my opinion). I feel the biggest mistake they made with HotS was the huge Terran patches just after release, they should have trusted their balance team and waited for a meta to appear before they dove in with constant patches.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 14 2014 14:23 GMT
#2037
This terran is weak discussion does not make any sense in the light of this tournament.

Look at the notable participant list again and find all the good koreans: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Atlanta

There you have Polt, Bomber and Violet.. Violet lost to Bomber in semis, all three of them made it to the semi's.

p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 14:44:26
July 14 2014 14:40 GMT
#2038
On July 14 2014 23:23 Ketch wrote:
This terran is weak discussion does not make any sense in the light of this tournament.

Look at the notable participant list again and find all the good koreans: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Atlanta

There you have Polt, Bomber and Violet.. Violet lost to Bomber in semis, all three of them made it to the semi's.


The best Protoss player was Huk for god sake and Violet is a mediocre Zerg player these days. This tournament has no relevance whatsoever. Many of the players weren't even pro players. They were casuals LOL! The chick from Australia, Avilo, Destiny etc.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 14 2014 14:53 GMT
#2039
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Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
July 14 2014 15:12 GMT
#2040
On July 14 2014 23:53 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 23:40 p14c wrote:
On July 14 2014 23:23 Ketch wrote:
This terran is weak discussion does not make any sense in the light of this tournament.

Look at the notable participant list again and find all the good koreans: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Atlanta

There you have Polt, Bomber and Violet.. Violet lost to Bomber in semis, all three of them made it to the semi's.


The best Protoss player was Huk for god sake and Violet is a mediocre Zerg player these days. This tournament has no relevance whatsoever. Many of the players weren't even pro players. They were casuals LOL! The chick from Australia, Avilo, Destiny etc.

Can't you just be happy for the winner instead of shitting all over their achievement?

Hes saying the competition was weak and they were expected to win no problem. They are regular top players and this tournament did not present much of a challenge to them (see almost every game they played in they were dicking around)
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