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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 09 2014 20:35 GMT
#881
On July 10 2014 04:51 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 04:46 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:37 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:


Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:



Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


The emote he was referring to was 'Kappa' which is used to indicate sarcasm, just so you know.


I know.
TB makes jokes about their player, so Mouz rubs it in when exactly that player all-kills his team.

I would call it even. gg wp. Was a great series to watch.


So it seems that first Axiom started the joke about Sjaak being a free win? then Mouz countered back with a joke after Sjaak won? and then Axoim followed that with "you should have humility"?

Whoa, who do you guys think is better Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?!?

Poll: Who is better, Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?

Sjaak (25)
 
66%

Prime Naniwa (13)
 
34%

38 total votes

Your vote: Who is better, Naniwa in his prime or Sjaak?

(Vote): Prime Naniwa
(Vote): Sjaak




Sjaaks GSL championship is just a matter of time.
why even
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 20:55:47
July 09 2014 20:55 GMT
#882
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 09 2014 20:59 GMT
#883
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
July 09 2014 21:04 GMT
#884
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
July 09 2014 21:21 GMT
#885
On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.


Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant.

Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
July 09 2014 21:26 GMT
#886
On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.



from the posts so far it seems Axiom/TB started it first by calling Sjaak a free win? or was this a lie?
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
July 09 2014 21:27 GMT
#887
Total Biscuit update:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/461571-the-taste-of-crow
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 09 2014 21:34 GMT
#888
Wow, all kill format indeed.

All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.

Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.

And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more....
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
July 09 2014 21:42 GMT
#889
On July 10 2014 06:34 Bagration wrote:
Wow, all kill format indeed.

All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.

Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.

And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more....


yea take a top Proleague player and put him into the ATC Teamkill format...going to be great results

like put sos or a soulkey etc on a team in ATC...whoa the allkills going to be numerous
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 09 2014 21:46 GMT
#890
On July 10 2014 06:42 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 06:34 Bagration wrote:
Wow, all kill format indeed.

All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.

Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.

And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more....


yea take a top Proleague player and put him into the ATC Teamkill format...going to be great results

like put sos or a soulkey etc on a team in ATC...whoa the allkills going to be numerous

It's even more terrifying since there's a revive.
kiss kiss fall in love
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 22:06:20
July 09 2014 22:01 GMT
#891
On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.


Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant.

Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.


Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3

Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.

Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.

Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now.


If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation.

However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that.

As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well.

I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
July 09 2014 22:20 GMT
#892
On July 10 2014 06:42 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 06:34 Bagration wrote:
Wow, all kill format indeed.

All 4 teams got 100% of their wins from one player today: Innovation, Taeja, Ryung and Sjaak.

Innovation is now on a 19 map win-streak, and 4 all kill (Jaedong comes 2nd with 2 all kills lol). At this point, I think Innovation is certain to finish #1 overall in the individual standings.

And now we get to see Liquid-Acer once more....


yea take a top Proleague player and put him into the ATC Teamkill format...going to be great results

like put sos or a soulkey etc on a team in ATC...whoa the allkills going to be numerous


SKT1 or KT Rolster would win the ATC without breaking a sweat.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 09 2014 22:47 GMT
#893
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.


Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant.

Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.


Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3

Show nested quote +
Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.

Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.

Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now.


If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation.

However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that.

As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well.

I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.

Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 22:53:34
July 09 2014 22:53 GMT
#894
On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.


Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant.

Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.


Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3

Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.

Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.

Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now.


If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation.

However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that.

As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well.

I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.

Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.


Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed.

I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?

Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
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Belgica34432 Posts
July 09 2014 22:56 GMT
#895
It was just some friendly banter. Happens all the time in every sport.
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mikumegurine
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Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 22:58:59
July 09 2014 22:57 GMT
#896
On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 06:21 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 06:04 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:59 Zealously wrote:
On July 10 2014 05:55 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:33 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On July 10 2014 04:23 Crot4le wrote:
https://twitter.com/mousesports/status/486953680818933760

Cocky sons of bitches.

I like Axiom's simple response:

https://twitter.com/axiomesports/status/486954023564488704

Humility is a good attribute to have guys.


On July 09 2014 10:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 09 2014 03:23 Yhamm wrote:
I wonder what TotalBiscuit thinks of those 2 recruitments 1-2 days before the start of ATC playoffs ^^


Our official position is "thanks for the free win", *insert popular online reference to sarcastic remark which is not explicitly allowed in the TL rules but we all know what it is anyway here*


If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it


That's funny I don't recall Axiom gloating on Twitter after winning, not even when they beat mouz 5-0. You'd think mouz would have a little humility, especially considering how lucky they were to get into the playoffs in the first place.


Typically, humility is a virtue of those who actually believe(d) in themselves. I find it difficult to believe that mouz thought they were going to win, and the typical reaction to a surprise win is often to act like the win was actually a foregone conclusion. The only one with a right to gloat is Sjaak himself haha


If Sjaak was a little cocky I'd think he was arrogant and a bad sport, yet I would understand. But for a professional team to rub it in tweeting at theur opponent after a close victory is out of order.

And I stress that this isn't me being butthurt after defeat, I'd be really disappointed in Axiom if they did the same thing. Thankfully they don't. They have more class.


Ofc you're butthurt and hypocritical. TB is allowed to make jokes and snarky remarks about everyone but if someone dares to step up and be snarky back its classless, cocky and arrogant.

Just call it even and be done with it. I dunno why you guys always feel the need to take banter so personal.


Nope. I'm not being butthurt and hypocritical. This is what I posted on the Reddit thread immediately after this game: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2a9jac/mousesports_54_axiom_in_atc_quarterfinals/cissp14?context=3

Sjaak so goddamn cheesy but I can't bring myself to hate him because of how hard he has been working this past year, but still very naive and disappointing play from the Axiom guys.

Congrats mouz and good luck in the semi-final.

Sjaak such a sick pick-up though, there's no doubt about that now.


If that's being butthurt and hypocritical, I don't know what's not. I think you'll find that I also congratulated mouz in this thread yet you seem too conveniently overlook that fact in your accusation.

However, mouz gloating on Twitter is really disrespectful. You say it's hypocrisy because TotalBiscuit does it too but I can't ever remember TotalBiscuit winding up an opposing team after Axiom beat them. Good luck to you finding an example of that.

As I said, if Axiom did the same I'd call them out too but they don't because they have more class than that. If Ryung won the ace match at Axiom tweeted "@mousesports You guys just got #Ryunged" I would say that's disrespectful and uncalled for. It's a lack of total class and your unwillingness to call your team out on it shows that you lack class as well.

I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.

Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.


Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed.

I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?



did u not see that it was perhaps TB started it and who provoked Mouz tweet?

1. TB/Axiom says Sjaak is a Free Win

2. Sjaak all kills Axiom, and Mouz tweets with a counter, "You've been Sjaaked"

3. TB/Axiom responds, "You should show some humility."

Anyhow TB afterwards posted in his blog, and there was an apology for calling Sjaak free and such
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 23:08:52
July 09 2014 23:08 GMT
#897
On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.


Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed.

I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?

"chill out" in this case just means to stop blowing up drama, where there is no drama. You might be perfectly happy, but you are still complaining about a simple tweet over multiple pages now, which blows it out of proportion. To quote from TB's blog:

On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
When Sjaak was hired I made a flippant remark that was meant in the spirit of friendly banter. [...]
The risk of banter is of course that it blows back in your face and this time it certainly did. There's enough humble pie here to feed us for days.

For me this would indicate, that he views the response as just that: Banter blowing up in Axioms face in the form of counter-banter, which is also not to be taken personally (Interpretation here,TB, if I should be wrong just tell me and I'll edit it out).
Statements like the following (sentence goes on afterwards)
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.

indicate, that you take this far to serious, when neither TB nor mouz or anyone else involved do. Like I said, it is nothing more than friendly banter, so yeah, feel free to rub a possible LB final loss in our face, should it happen, but don't wonder, if we are less serious about it.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
July 09 2014 23:18 GMT
#898
On July 10 2014 08:08 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.


Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed.

I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?

"chill out" in this case just means to stop blowing up drama, where there is no drama. You might be perfectly happy, but you are still complaining about a simple tweet over multiple pages now, which blows it out of proportion. To quote from TB's blog:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
When Sjaak was hired I made a flippant remark that was meant in the spirit of friendly banter. [...]
The risk of banter is of course that it blows back in your face and this time it certainly did. There's enough humble pie here to feed us for days.

For me this would indicate, that he views the response as just that: Banter blowing up in Axioms face in the form of counter-banter, which is also not to be taken personally (Interpretation here,TB, if I should be wrong just tell me and I'll edit it out).
Statements like the following (sentence goes on afterwards)
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.

indicate, that you take this far to serious, when neither TB nor mouz or anyone else involved do. Like I said, it is nothing more than friendly banter, so yeah, feel free to rub a possible LB final loss in our face, should it happen, but don't wonder, if we are less serious about it.


TB was being sarcastic and you know it. Besides, I also think there's a big difference in 'fighting talk' and 'banter' before a match and actually rubbing your opponents face in it after the match has already been played.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree but I still think it was out of order and I would be disappointed in Axiom if they did that.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2014 23:20 GMT
#899
On July 10 2014 02:34 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 02:30 boxerfred wrote:
Faceless foreigners winning everything. #dedgame


If you hadn't put that winkey face there you'd be getting rekt by mods!

after my just 2 day ban, I was making sure.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 09 2014 23:25 GMT
#900
On July 10 2014 08:18 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 08:08 Xoronius wrote:
On July 10 2014 07:53 Crot4le wrote:
On July 10 2014 07:47 Xoronius wrote:
Why does there always have to be drama? It's just trash talk after a match; that is completely normal. TL and Acer have regular banter on twitter before and after series, EG and TL used to do the same, when EG was still one of the premier teams. NASL 2 had similar banter between EG and Mouz and nobody complained back than. The winner of a match will always have the oppurtunity and the right to trash talk a bit and I would'nt feel offended if Axiom would have sent a similar text, should they have won. You shouldn't feel offended either, as this was clearly not aimed personally at someone. Just chill out a bit.


Why is it that people always say "chill out" when they see someone call something out on the internet? Do you really think that I am angrily bashing away at my keyboard red in the face with foam coming out of my mouth? I am perfectly chilled you know, gutted that Axiom lost today of course, but otherwise I am a very happy bunny indeed.

I'm just saying that what mousesports did was disrespectful, at best it was lacking tact, and I don't really like them as a team. I don't know what's so controversial about that?

"chill out" in this case just means to stop blowing up drama, where there is no drama. You might be perfectly happy, but you are still complaining about a simple tweet over multiple pages now, which blows it out of proportion. To quote from TB's blog:

On July 10 2014 06:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
When Sjaak was hired I made a flippant remark that was meant in the spirit of friendly banter. [...]
The risk of banter is of course that it blows back in your face and this time it certainly did. There's enough humble pie here to feed us for days.

For me this would indicate, that he views the response as just that: Banter blowing up in Axioms face in the form of counter-banter, which is also not to be taken personally (Interpretation here,TB, if I should be wrong just tell me and I'll edit it out).
Statements like the following (sentence goes on afterwards)
On July 10 2014 07:01 Crot4le wrote:
I hope you get trounced by TL/Acer in the losers' finals. I look forward to it, and I will merrily gloat in your face if you do so we can see how you like it. Karma can be a bitch sometimes.

indicate, that you take this far to serious, when neither TB nor mouz or anyone else involved do. Like I said, it is nothing more than friendly banter, so yeah, feel free to rub a possible LB final loss in our face, should it happen, but don't wonder, if we are less serious about it.


TB was being sarcastic and you know it. Besides, I also think there's a big difference in 'fighting talk' and 'banter' before a match and actually rubbing your opponents face in it after the match has already been played.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree but I still think it was out of order and I would be disappointed in Axiom if they did that.

Yes, I know it. That's why I said "also not to be taken serious". Because neuither of the invloved parties are serious with their banter. Anyway, as you said, we shouldn't discuss about it further, it's probably just a slight cultural difference.
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