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Information about the tournament can be found at the tournament's website. I'll post the most important info here.
http://i.destiny.gg
Tournament Format
I will be drafting 8 players from the top of the North American ladder. In order to qualify from there, the following conditions must be met -
- You must be playing on an account who's name reflects the person playing it (no barcodes!)
- You must be the only person laddering on the account.
- You can't hack, cheat, boost, trade wins or commit any other obviously silly shenanigans.
- The qualification period for the ladder will end on Sunday, August 3rd, 23:59 EST. At that point I will take the top 8, non-barcoded accounts and invite them to the tournament.
The other 8 players will be invited in. I'll announce the invites as I confirm them.
The tournament will function as follows: the 8 people drafted from the ladder and the 8 invitees will be shuffled into 4 groups of 4 with 2 people from each category being in each group. Each of the groups will play 6 matches (plus a possible sudden death match, if needed) to determine who moves on. Once the 8 group stage survivors have been determined, they will feed into an 8 player bracket where bo5's will be played for quarter finals, then bo7's for semi-finals and a bo9 for the grind final to determine the winner. There will be no 3rd-4th place match.
The group matches will take place one group per day, starting on August 5th and ending on August 8th. The quarter final bracket will start on August 9th, with the semi-finals and grand finals being played on Sunday, August 10th.
All games will start at 10 AM EST (okay time for Americans, perfect time for Europeans, okay time for Koreans) and will probably carry on until about 2-3PM EST, though we'll try to move as briskly as possible.
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If you have any questions/comments/suggestions, feel free to let me know and I'll try to keep up with the responses.
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Canada8157 Posts
Looks like fun, I'll tune in to what I can
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United States97276 Posts
Seems pretty cool. Definitely interested in tuning in
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France7248 Posts
good way to boost the NA ladder I guess! was fun to watch when shoutcraft did it 
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The indiegogo page is probably the best thing I've ever seen. Even better than waxangel's indiegogo.
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Really like the tournament format especially the best of 7 and best of 9's for the semi's and final. Looks to be a really nice tournament.
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Have you received word on any of your invites or is it still a little early for any commitments from any of the players?
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I am very interested to see how successful these types of tournaments can be for "small time" producers (not MLG, Dreamhack, etc.) can be. I am very interested to see if there is any profit in it, or whether it ends up being basically advertising for your brand.
I think the venture capital via crowdfunding is a solid way to get off the ground, also. In your post-mortem, I hope you are willing/able to share how much ad revenue you are able to collect/subs gained for the event. I love statistics like that.
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United States248 Posts
Definitely tuning in. Thanks for putting this on.
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Destiny I eh? I guess you plan for more if all turns out alright.
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Should be great. I'm curious to see how many Korean or European players decide to ladder on NA to try and get one of the top 8 slots.
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4000$ you can bring some pros to competitive like dragon invitation event
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Hey what's up I'm trying to be a decent caster for now and would love to cast for you guys if you can't find anyone ^^ anyone from TL that would like to get ahold of me pm me and I will show you guys how I cast. etc I'm not good enough to be in the tournament yet but maybe next time :D
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This tournament gets featured instantly, but the BasetradeTV tournament gets no attention on TL?
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France7248 Posts
On July 05 2014 10:46 Legio wrote:
This tournament gets featured instantly, but the BasetradeTV tournament gets no attention on TL?
basetradetv doesnt need crowfunding
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Haha, I like the "Message read between series" for $25 >_<
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
So technically speaking anyone from EU/TW/Sea/KR could qualify for the NA Ladder spots?
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On July 05 2014 11:04 stuchiu wrote:
So technically speaking anyone from EU/TW/Sea/KR could qualify for the NA Ladder spots?
Yes
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Seems nice, I like the qualification process.
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Nice, looking forward to it.
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Wow Destiny really has come a long way since the early beta days I guess.
Great to see something like this, I hope it has a lot of success. I will try my best to watch it live.
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Def. going to be watching this ;3 !
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Question: I assume that the NA ladder drafts are not limited just to NA residents. If so, what will you do about players who are rumored to have traded wins, ie Check, Daisy, JYP, Iasonu, and XY?
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You cant get to top GM just trading wins anyway
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great job Destiny, I will tune in. I hope you make your invites after the ladder finishes, to balance out the races. Important for a tournament to have success.
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On July 05 2014 12:07 Deckard.666 wrote:
You cant get to top GM just trading wins anyway
But if you're already close to top 8 you can win trade with someone who has a higher MMR and get into top 8, no?
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Cool, I'll be looking forward to this. I like this ladder battle format for qualification. Interested to see who the players will be.
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This sounds great! Should be another positive for the NA scene.
Will definitely be tuning in
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hehehehe
Sounds great! I will definitely be watching.
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it will be good, ill tune in!
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Hey, cool. Glad to see some stimulation of the NA scene!
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Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
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On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTs when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
I'm only doing it for the money, dawg.
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I love it. Can't wait to watch :D
More Pro's/Personalities need to do things like this!
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Regardless of if you like the guy or not or his reasoning, this is a good thing for the scene. We can always use more tournaments!
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Sounds like a really great initiative... cool stuff destiny!
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oh my god that is amazing, and the europe time is excellent aswell. i will defintely watch this.
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Streamed NA ladder games ! Weeuuuuuu
Destiny casting all games ? Other Casters (takeTV/Mori09/Khaldor allowed?)
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Gj Destiny! Will group matches be best of 3 or 5?
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So let me get this straight. The top 8 NA Grand master players with non-barcode IDs will be drafted in the tournament, right?
Along with 8 invites.
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Oh wow, you're doing exactly what I wished "someone" would do. Thank you for being our someone, Destiny!
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On July 05 2014 13:55 Radicalness wrote:
Cool, I'll be looking forward to this. I like this ladder battle format for qualification. Interested to see who the players will be.
Yeah I like format too. I wish the ladder would have more importance and at the same time that there would be a way to get rid of the bar-code names. If more tournaments follow suit with regards to whom to invite, just maybe we would start to see a change...
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Sick tourney brah,this might actually make me watch a little SC2 again
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I remember how epic the Shoutcraft ladder battle for spots was so it'll be sweet if something similar is replicated here
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On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
Don't you talk to my Stevie like that.
Go be productive for once in your life...
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On July 05 2014 14:42 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTs when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
I'm only doing it for the money, dawg.
Great post :D
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I like the crowd funding option but I wish there was a sponsor behind it too to help in the costs. This looks like a good advertising opportunity for any company out there in the gaming industry so I wonder why there is none, especially since I'd assume Destiny has the connections necessary to find a sponsor with relative ease.
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Seems pretty neat I guess.
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great job steven! will try to watch depending on air time.
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First of all, thank you for the tournament.
On July 05 2014 18:10 Patate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
Don't you talk to my Stevie like that. Go be productive for once in your life...
Do you know Dooku persoanlly? Or how else could you make assumptions about him normally not being productive?
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I'm glad we still have Destiny playing and doing stuff for sc2. He's definitely one of the most colourful guy's out there in the sc2 scene. I live in Europe, so 10 AM comes as a blessing. Will definitely check this out. I already donated some money too.
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I don't yet understand the group format. It is classic round-robin with a 3-way tie-breaker if necessary? How does a sudden death match work in the group stage?
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I really like that Destiny showed how his budget is getting spent. Not many tournaments (if any?) do that.
I'll tune in
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Cool, will watch.
Destiny & incontrol casting together should be good.
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On July 05 2014 21:06 trada wrote:I really like that Destiny showed how his budget is getting spent. Not many tournaments (if any?) do that. I'll tune in
I mean it's quite a bit easier to do that when keeping it rather simple.
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Cool and like I wrote on reddit, you already have your own subscription system so it might be good to include it as perks.
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Good way to get more top players to practice on the NA ladder. Something that is missing from NA right now as they all flocked to kr and EU ladder
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damn late shifts. the tournament will start when I go to work. Will there be vods on youtube or something?
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On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
100 % agreed.
lost all my respect during his last ladder session, his bm is unbelievable.....
that suicide bullshit vs avilo was just next level, destiny is a terrible human being.
so yeah, not gonna watch
and yayaya i know you dont care
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Hope he doesnt go to sleep like at Homestory cup and miss his event ))
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nice. any consultation with TB on running a tourney?
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On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
At least he is doing something good for the community with this tournament idea. Much to the opposite of your post. Good luck with the tournament ! Will definitely tune in for it !
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This is the worst thing for the scene. We don't need another tournament. Everyone involved is cancerous. Why are the finances revealed, does Destiny think we are bankers? Bla bla bla bla bla.
User was warned for this post
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Awesome. I'll be watching. Who will be casting it with you?
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I hope he doesn't fall of sleep like in HSC. Just kidding. GL Destiny on making this tournament.
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On July 05 2014 22:38 Disarmed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
100 % agreed. lost all my respect during his last ladder session, his bm is unbelievable..... that suicide bullshit vs avilo was just next level, destiny is a terrible human being. so yeah, not gonna watch and yayaya i know you dont care
Damn, if Destiny is a terrible human being, what does that make you guys? At least he's organizing a tournament. Also, he has a cool art design guy.
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These donation perks sound great. I especially like the $25 "read message" one, hilarity should ensue.
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100 % agreed.
lost all my respect during his last ladder session, his bm is unbelievable.....
that suicide bullshit vs avilo was just next level, destiny is a terrible human being.
so yeah, not gonna watch
and yayaya i know you dont care[/QUOTE]
And yet, teamliquid takes my stream off the featured list , and leaves this stream on the featured list, which is by far worse than anything I've ever said or done on my stream.
So basically , average 2,000 viewers you can do whatever you want. average 3-400 and you better follow the rules.
Doesn't this logic remind you of something?
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sick - tournaments with player/personality casters are always fun a la dreamhack
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Well I did my part by throwing $20 on the Indiego fund raiser. However, I was surprised that this has not already reached the $4000 target. At $20 that is only 200 donations??
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Wow, this actually looks really awesome! :D
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On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
Easy there "made an account to make one comment" while Destiny is by no means the most well mannered player in the world, and I am by no means a fan. If he wants to hold a tournament, and if he wanted to yell at the players during it he can.
Aside: not letting them use bar-codes is the best idea for qualifying for something online.
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I might even turn adblock off for this.
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On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
You should turn off adblock any time you watch a stream, dip-poopie. It's unfair to the streamers and their audience as well as the people who play the game to use adblock.
otherwise you're kind of a leech
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@ destiny
wasn't your original plan to go with scarlett snute + korea?
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On July 05 2014 23:15 Universum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 14:39 DookuSc2 wrote:
Seriously? It this some kind of a joke? This is the same guy who has absolutely no respect for this game or anyone that plays it. Either it be another Zerg, or even worse a Protoss or Terran, all he does is full-out insult anybody that beats him during a ladder match. He feels playing any race besides Zerg takes absolutely no skill and that you suffer from "autism" if you choose to play a race or a style which he does not appreciate.
This is the same guy who not too long ago retired from the game and would give endless speeches about how horrible the state of the game is, but now he's holding the community a tournament pretending to be some kind of a savior of the game. This dude is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. Talks shit about how Avilo's playstyle is annoying and horrible yet constantly plays swarm host vs every matchup. Talks shit about Starcraft 2: HoTS when it first released, then holds the community a $4000 tourny lol.
At least he is doing something good for the community with this tournament idea. Much to the opposite of your post. Good luck with the tournament ! Will definitely tune in for it !
Calling someone out for being a douchebag so there is some semblance of accountability for behavior? I mean it's kind of futile in this case but still. Those horrible community members with standards of demeanor.
@protech, yeah man 
on topic: still, this is what NA needs more of, so 
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All this shit about, "He's a terrible human and I won't support it" or whatever is dumb. Even if you don't like the guy you can appreciate that there is another smaller SC2 tournament being held. That's good for everyone. I have been an avid Destiny fan for a long time, so of course I looooove this. But even if you're not, it should still make you happy.
Or maybe the people hating on it are just waiting for the players to be announced, I don't know.
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So we pay for it, and Destiny gets the ad money and exposure from it? Strange set up, but should be a good event.
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indiegogo at 43% and still over 2 weeks left. It looks promising to hit 5k.
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On July 06 2014 06:29 Jono7272 wrote:
So we pay for it, and Destiny gets the ad money and exposure from it? Strange set up, but should be a good event.
If it gets fully funded the I definitely make money from this, of course. I don't want to take on the risk of putting up a $5k event on my own because I don't want to just lose $5,000, though. Money that I raise from this will go towards the next tournament, though, so hopefully it's worth the initial round of community capital.
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So how much money Destiny is usingto this tournament? Or do we "pay"(crowfund) this tournament?
That is really strange. Should tournament be then called Crowdfunded tournament or something? 
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On July 06 2014 07:29 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 06:29 Jono7272 wrote:
So we pay for it, and Destiny gets the ad money and exposure from it? Strange set up, but should be a good event. If it gets fully funded the I definitely make money from this, of course. I don't want to take on the risk of putting up a $5k event on my own because I don't want to just lose $5,000, though. Money that I raise from this will go towards the next tournament, though, so hopefully it's worth the initial round of community capital.
not enough #passion like Dragon
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Looking forward to this. I like the concept. Best of luck.
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On July 06 2014 07:41 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:So how much money Destiny is usingto this tournament? Or do we "pay"(crowfund) this tournament? That is really strange. Should tournament be then called Crowdfunded tournament or something?
I think the name is fine. You wouldn't call ti4 a crowd funded tournament.
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On July 06 2014 08:04 IVOeu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 07:41 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:So how much money Destiny is usingto this tournament? Or do we "pay"(crowfund) this tournament? That is really strange. Should tournament be then called Crowdfunded tournament or something? I think the name is fine. You wouldn't call ti4 a crowd funded tournament.
Well, valve is also using their money
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On July 06 2014 08:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 08:04 IVOeu wrote:On July 06 2014 07:41 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:So how much money Destiny is usingto this tournament? Or do we "pay"(crowfund) this tournament? That is really strange. Should tournament be then called Crowdfunded tournament or something? I think the name is fine. You wouldn't call ti4 a crowd funded tournament. Well, valve is also using their money
Valve's making a profit off TI4 and is a little bit bigger than Destiny. I think this is fine.
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Best of 9 finals, thank god
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Jeez, a lot of negativity for something people are willingly donating their $$ for. Its not like dest0ne factored in the time and effort it took to set this thing up and is charging us 14 greenbacks an hour for that. If you don't like the idea of paying for a tourny, don't pay for it.
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I'm excited for it, hope it all goes super well Destiny so there are more in the future.
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On July 06 2014 09:34 LongShot27 wrote:
Best of 9 finals, thank god
The finals should be interesting, depending on the map pool also.
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Pretty sure I should be invited...just saying  hyped for this!
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On July 06 2014 08:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 08:04 IVOeu wrote:On July 06 2014 07:41 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:So how much money Destiny is usingto this tournament? Or do we "pay"(crowfund) this tournament? That is really strange. Should tournament be then called Crowdfunded tournament or something? I think the name is fine. You wouldn't call ti4 a crowd funded tournament. Well, valve is also using their money
What the what kind of answer is that. what? im
Does it bother you that Destiny is trying something new? I don't even understand why you're complaining. I think it's a cool initiative from him to organize this. He's giving an opportunity for top NA players to prove themselves, spectators to enjoy good matches and he's gathering some money for the players to earn a living on. He could also just sit on his laurels and stream all day, would you rather? I won't even comment that valve thing you just said.
On my end, happy to see something different happen. Will tune in for this.
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Good luck hope it runs smoothly! :D
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All the people hating on destiny about him being a poor human being, I am curious how many of you have been watching him since the beginning, quite remember him always acting himself since the start. His opinions shouldn't bother anyone. They are just that opinions. I don't see all the reason for the hate. something you just have to say ok and move on. It is cool he is trying to set up the tournament in this form. At least he is attempting it. You attack the person for the past, over the present. He has never cheated or done nothing wrong, being vocal is what everyone will be at one point. Stick to the 2014 and not 2012.
Anyways good luck with the tournament Destiny.
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Destiny, I love this idea about you creating SC2 tournaments. Good work, keep it going mate!
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Please try to invite MarineKing or Maru Would love to see them anywhere else expect PL.
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/destiny-i#home
Good transparency, very clear goals and spending plan. I really appreciate that. Especially the announced "tournament viewership and financial debrief :"
Following this tournament I'll provide a detailed write-up of viewership stats and how much money I was able to generate via sponsorships/ad revenue/etc...in a similar fashion to Totalbiscuit's Shoutcraft "post-mortem" reports to give people a better idea about how the procurement and expenditure of said funding works in tournaments like these.
From a fun/trolly streamer I really didn't expect that level of professionalism, so I'm impressed. I'm French and I donated for the Nation Wars, I wish (even if it's at a larger scale) they could have the same transparency as Destiny One.
I will definitely watch your shit and I'll donate a couple of bucks, because dollars are cheap anyway.
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On July 06 2014 00:29 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +
100 % agreed.
lost all my respect during his last ladder session, his bm is unbelievable.....
that suicide bullshit vs avilo was just next level, destiny is a terrible human being.
so yeah, not gonna watch
and yayaya i know you dont care
And yet, teamliquid takes my stream off the featured list , and leaves this stream on the featured list, which is by far worse than anything I've ever said or done on my stream. So basically , average 2,000 viewers you can do whatever you want. average 3-400 and you better follow the rules. Doesn't this logic remind you of something?
No. I don't know about TL staff rationals on this, but I can clearly explain why I totally quit watching your stream, while still enjoying Destiny's one.
There is a massiv difference between being douch, bm opponnent, etc... and calmy explaining why certain kind of people are despisable because of their sexual preferences. One night I witnessed an incredibly mean (and stupid by the way) rant of you against "homos", on your stream. You were not letting off the steam after a rebutal from a gay people you just tried to hook up in a desperate attempt to widen your perception of reality (it's just an example...): you were explaining afterwards why it's perfectly fine (not excusable, fine) to call your opponents "homos" to undermine them.
After spitting out your hatred on that matter, you claimed that you didn't care if some people stopped watching your stream because how a disgusting human beeing you are. Being unfeatured should satisfy you: less leftist faggets and hysteric dykes are watching you now.
Hint:
You see the difference: I'm mad so I insult you, but I refrain to explain how "people like you" should be thrown back in the deep dark hole they belong.
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On July 06 2014 00:29 ProTech wrote:
And yet, teamliquid takes my stream off the featured list , and leaves this stream on the featured list, which is by far worse than anything I've ever said or done on my stream.
So basically , average 2,000 viewers you can do whatever you want. average 3-400 and you better follow the rules.
Doesn't this logic remind you of something?
So how about those donations for your "dental work" Protech?
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On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us.
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On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us.
somethingsomething FREEDOM OF CHOICE somethingsomething *additional bullshit rationalisations*
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I think this is the most negative thread I have read in a while.
Destiny hosts a tournament (gratz btw. ): 49% flame him for being a asshole, 49% flame them for being here, one guy argues that he is less of an asshole than destiny and one caster/team owner flames randomly.
So we can conclude Destiny still makes for really toxic threads :D
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On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us.
hmm, i'm always interested in the actual percentage of people who uses adblock while knowing its existence. People on either side of the fence always tend to think they are the majority in this case. I don't think "the rest of us" really means the rest of us.
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On July 08 2014 01:45 vitruvia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us. hmm, i'm always interested in the actual percentage of people who uses adblock while knowing its existence. People on either side of the fence always tend to think they are the majority in this case. I don't think "the rest of us" really means the rest of us.
Using adblock on streams is a dick thing to do regardless of what color that fence is.
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On July 08 2014 03:03 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:45 vitruvia wrote:On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us. hmm, i'm always interested in the actual percentage of people who uses adblock while knowing its existence. People on either side of the fence always tend to think they are the majority in this case. I don't think "the rest of us" really means the rest of us. Using adblock on streams is a dick thing to do regardless of what color that fence is.
One reason people ad block on streams is that pre-rolls are there. While it's not a good justification for doing it, it still discourages people from not having ad block on because pre-rolls are there.
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On July 07 2014 01:13 Karel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 00:29 ProTech wrote:
100 % agreed.
lost all my respect during his last ladder session, his bm is unbelievable.....
that suicide bullshit vs avilo was just next level, destiny is a terrible human being.
so yeah, not gonna watch
and yayaya i know you dont care
And yet, teamliquid takes my stream off the featured list , and leaves this stream on the featured list, which is by far worse than anything I've ever said or done on my stream. So basically , average 2,000 viewers you can do whatever you want. average 3-400 and you better follow the rules. Doesn't this logic remind you of something? No. I don't know about TL staff rationals on this, but I can clearly explain why I totally quit watching your stream, while still enjoying Destiny's one. There is a massiv difference between being douch, bm opponnent, etc... and calmy explaining why certain kind of people are despisable because of their sexual preferences. One night I witnessed an incredibly mean (and stupid by the way) rant of you against "homos", on your stream. You were not letting off the steam after a rebutal from a gay people you just tried to hook up in a desperate attempt to widen your perception of reality (it's just an example...): you were explaining afterwards why it's perfectly fine (not excusable, fine) to call your opponents "homos" to undermine them. After spitting out your hatred on that matter, you claimed that you didn't care if some people stopped watching your stream because how a disgusting human beeing you are. Being unfeatured should satisfy you: less leftist faggets and hysteric dykes are watching you now. Hint: You see the difference: I'm mad so I insult you, but I refrain to explain how "people like you" should be thrown back in the deep dark hole they belong.
Clear , obvious , obnoxious bullshit spewing from your mouth. You ( just like the rest ) take things out of context , create ideas of your own and portray them to the masses in which spreads like cancer.
The bottom line is , I personally have witnessed things on destiny's stream that I would never in a fucking million years even consider saying , but yet obviously it doesn't matter why? Beacuse when you are a streamer, and you get thousands of viewers you can say / do anything you want. I've been streaming a long time and keep tabs on this kind of thing. One thing is 100% for certain: you get viewers you get away with whatever you want.
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Furthermore teamliquid.net made up about 10% of my viewership, why? Because people on TL.net don't give a shit about what I do. Twitch is where you get viewers, certainly not here.
Staying on topic, you hear / see more about the bullshit on destiny's stream than any other fucking stream. I'm not personally attacking destiny here either, don't get that messed up, I like his stream. I'm just trying to figure out why TL did what they did to me, when there's just about as much of that kind of shit going on, on MANY of their featured streams.
TL: You aren't a website that's a benefit to me. But to this day, you still haven't given me a good logical explanation as to why you did what you did. You claim " BM " on stream. Yet I see the same if not more on many streams ( i'm not going to name names ) in your featured section.
Fucking answer me already.
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On July 07 2014 02:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 00:29 ProTech wrote:
And yet, teamliquid takes my stream off the featured list , and leaves this stream on the featured list, which is by far worse than anything I've ever said or done on my stream.
So basically , average 2,000 viewers you can do whatever you want. average 3-400 and you better follow the rules.
Doesn't this logic remind you of something? So how about those donations for your "dental work" Protech?
Proven on stream ( vods are available ) that all those funds have been extracted from my bank account to my dentist. If you want, I can personally send you a screenshot of my bank account and the transactions that took place as well as provide all the documentation you would need to show that I did not " scam " anyone.
In fact, I'd much like to work with you on this to clear my name, since you've got a massive fan base
All of the people who watch my stream know that money went to the right place , but when the cancer spreads to places like TL.Net / Reddit your name gets tainted right quick.
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Northern Ireland24214 Posts
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?
Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc.
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On July 08 2014 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?
Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc.
Sure this is the thread. After all, you can see the different opinions about this streamer in particular that directly relates to my situation.
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On July 07 2014 03:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us. somethingsomething FREEDOM OF CHOICE somethingsomething *additional bullshit rationalisations*
I actually got Adblock because Google ads were crashing TL, and TL only.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/442373-chrome-and-tl-problem-on-my-end
Blocked ads:
1 on this page
190519 in total
somethingsomething KILLING E-SPORTS somethingsomething
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On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:The bottom line is , I personally have witnessed things on destiny's stream that I would never in a fucking million years even consider saying , but yet obviously it doesn't matter why? Beacuse when you are a streamer, and you get thousands of viewers you can say / do anything you want.
This is the toppest of keks I've read in a loooooooooooong, loooooooooooong time. Are you trying to insinuate that I can say or do anything I want to with zero repercussion? Do I really need to link you anything to prove how asinine this statement is?
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Gonna donate tonight, hope it accepts my card.
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On July 08 2014 08:54 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:The bottom line is , I personally have witnessed things on destiny's stream that I would never in a fucking million years even consider saying , but yet obviously it doesn't matter why? Beacuse when you are a streamer, and you get thousands of viewers you can say / do anything you want. This is the toppest of keks I've read in a loooooooooooong, loooooooooooong time. Are you trying to insinuate that I can say or do anything I want to with zero repercussion? Do I really need to link you anything to prove how asinine this statement is?
wait, are you insinuating that you're controversial or not universally loved? or even got shit/repercussions for anything you've done in the past? because that I find hard to believe.
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This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG).
On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream.
Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success.
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thanks destiny, looking forward to watching this
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On July 08 2014 08:54 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:The bottom line is , I personally have witnessed things on destiny's stream that I would never in a fucking million years even consider saying , but yet obviously it doesn't matter why? Beacuse when you are a streamer, and you get thousands of viewers you can say / do anything you want. This is the toppest of keks I've read in a loooooooooooong, loooooooooooong time. Are you trying to insinuate that I can say or do anything I want to with zero repercussion? Do I really need to link you anything to prove how asinine this statement is?
No you don't because I've witnessed things you've said personally. As well as hundreds of other people, it's no secret. And as stated before, I'm not attacking you here d00d, I just want a legit answer out of TL.net that they haven't provided since the unfeature.
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On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success.
And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though.
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On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though.
Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion.
Back to topic please.
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On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please.
There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong.
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On July 08 2014 15:56 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please. There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong.
This is why we can't have nice things...
Just stfu dude. Somehow this transformed from a cool idea to promote the NA ladder to your little crusade for TL featured justice.
Stop being such a little bitch.
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Canada16217 Posts
On July 08 2014 15:56 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please. There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong.
further discussion about you being un-featured should go here please: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/281401-featured-streamer-list?page=82
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Cool bananas ! Ggogogogo SeleCT , ELDAR mode engaged !
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I don't yet understand the group format. How does a sudden death match work in the group stage?
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On July 08 2014 15:56 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please. There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong.
I don't think double standards in once instance, if that's what you're suggesting, equates in any way to being "done wrong." That's like doing time for molesting lil boys and then complaining about a priest. If you want to molest boys that bad, then become a catholic priest, I guess. It's no secret that it's even in TL.net's "rules" that certain people (pros/casters/popular people) are given more leeway/bigger leash on this site. That's life. No one cares about 2's. There's no pro scene. No one decent plays 2's (not seriously, at least). Playing a niche genre that no one cares about, while being viewed as a toxic personality... what can a person expect...
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On July 08 2014 18:39 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 15:56 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please. There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong. I don't think double standards in once instance, if that's what you're suggesting, equates in any way to being "done wrong." That's like doing time for molesting lil boys and then complaining about a priest. If you want to molest boys that bad, then become a catholic priest, I guess. It's no secret that it's even in TL.net's "rules" that certain people (pros/casters/popular people) are given more leeway/bigger leash on this site. That's life. No one cares about 2's. There's no pro scene. No one decent plays 2's (not seriously, at least). Playing a niche genre that no one cares about, while being viewed as a toxic personality... what can a person expect...
Compared to the amount of actual pro players (hint: 99% of them are korean and there are not a lot of them) out there, no one decent plays 1s as well. The rest you wrote is... utter bullshit, not even worth responding to that nonsense.
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On July 08 2014 19:17 FLORIDACOMPACT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 18:39 playa wrote:On July 08 2014 15:56 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please. There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong. I don't think double standards in once instance, if that's what you're suggesting, equates in any way to being "done wrong." That's like doing time for molesting lil boys and then complaining about a priest. If you want to molest boys that bad, then become a catholic priest, I guess. It's no secret that it's even in TL.net's "rules" that certain people (pros/casters/popular people) are given more leeway/bigger leash on this site. That's life. No one cares about 2's. There's no pro scene. No one decent plays 2's (not seriously, at least). Playing a niche genre that no one cares about, while being viewed as a toxic personality... what can a person expect... Compared to the amount of actual pro players (hint: 99% of them are korean and there are not a lot of them) out there, no one decent plays 1s as well. The rest you wrote is... utter bullshit, not even worth responding to that nonsense.
Yeah, well, think how bad NA GMs are (I'd know.... you can get there without having any clue how to play the game). Then think about how bad NA master players must be... especially people who have been playing the game forever... It's going to be hard for many to care about "the best 2's player," when, in reality, it's just some average master player on NA that decided to play 2's (seriously), probably because he was tired of just being another guy... Given that he's the highest rated player to take 2's seriously, it tells you that even horrible players don't take twos seriously.
I'm not a Destiny fan boi or anyone's fan boi, outside of minigun... I'm simply saying it's fucking on tl.net's site why some people can get away with things that others can't. Destiny has been a pro gamer. He is now a caster/pro. And, he also happens to the the most famous player in the community, sans maybe day[9] or stephano... Given what tl.net has written on their site to expect... if you get treated differently than destiny, then maybe your credentials don't put you on the same level. It's amazing protech or w/e his name is got featured in the first place.
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On July 08 2014 19:37 playa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 19:17 FLORIDACOMPACT wrote:On July 08 2014 18:39 playa wrote:On July 08 2014 15:56 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 15:39 Daswollvieh wrote:On July 08 2014 15:09 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:This tournament sounds great, and I'm glad to see Destiny is a part of it He's definitely one of the most interesting personalities I've had the honor of meeting (at an old Quantic-IM meet-up during an MLG). On July 08 2014 07:31 ProTech wrote:
Personally, I don't care about being unfeatured from team liquid.net. I'm doing just fine with what I have, in fact since I got unfeatured I've never had better numbers on my stream. Good to hear. I think we should re-post this whenever anyone asks for you to get your stream re-featured. Apparently we're helping you by leaving you unfeatured, so everyone wins. Congratulations on your success. And so you should, like mentioned before I don't care about the featured status here, being on front page rotation on twitch is way more than enough, thanks though. Great, if you don´t care, then there´s no reason to continue the discussion. Back to topic please. There is every reason for this discussion. I want answers, just like anyone else would if they were did completely wrong. I don't think double standards in once instance, if that's what you're suggesting, equates in any way to being "done wrong." That's like doing time for molesting lil boys and then complaining about a priest. If you want to molest boys that bad, then become a catholic priest, I guess. It's no secret that it's even in TL.net's "rules" that certain people (pros/casters/popular people) are given more leeway/bigger leash on this site. That's life. No one cares about 2's. There's no pro scene. No one decent plays 2's (not seriously, at least). Playing a niche genre that no one cares about, while being viewed as a toxic personality... what can a person expect... Compared to the amount of actual pro players (hint: 99% of them are korean and there are not a lot of them) out there, no one decent plays 1s as well. The rest you wrote is... utter bullshit, not even worth responding to that nonsense. Yeah, well, think how bad NA GMs are (I'd know.... you can get there without having any clue how to play the game). Then think about how bad NA master players must be... especially people who have been playing the game forever... It's going to be hard for many to care about "the best 2's player," when, in reality, it's just some average master player on NA that decided to play 2's (seriously), probably because he was tired of just being another guy... Given that he's the highest rated player to take 2's seriously, it tells you that even horrible players don't take twos seriously. I'm not a Destiny fan boi or anyone's fan boi, outside of minigun... I'm simply saying it's fucking on tl.net's site why some people can get away with things that others can't. Destiny has been a pro gamer. He is now a caster/pro. And, he also happens to the the most famous player in the community, sans maybe day[9] or stephano... Given what tl.net has written on their site to expect... if you get treated differently than destiny, then maybe your credentials don't put you on the same level. It's amazing protech or w/e his name is got featured in the first place.
God forbid anyone plays anything outside of what the " norm " is amirite?
Good starcraft content is why my stream got featured in the first place. De-featured due to " BM " which can be found in most all featured streams if you watch enough.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Stop derailing this thread. Discussions about featured stream policy and related matters should be taken to website feedback. Any further derailing will be moderated
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Thanks^
Curious to see who qualifies via the ladder for this. That last weekend could get interesting and its nice that the players won't be on barcode accounts
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Very excited for this tournament ! Hope we see some amazing up and coming players and some amazing world class players too Hurray for Destiny and thanks to zealously for hopefully fixing this thread
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On July 08 2014 03:03 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 01:45 vitruvia wrote:On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us. hmm, i'm always interested in the actual percentage of people who uses adblock while knowing its existence. People on either side of the fence always tend to think they are the majority in this case. I don't think "the rest of us" really means the rest of us. Using adblock on streams is a dick thing to do regardless of what color that fence is.
i don't really think people care if it's a dick thing to do or not, or else we'd have a much better society. =/
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On July 08 2014 23:50 Soke wrote:Very excited for this tournament ! Hope we see some amazing up and coming players and some amazing world class players too Hurray for Destiny and thanks to zealously for hopefully fixing this thread
Agree agree agree!
It would be so awesome if some unknown ladder players can make names for themselves against some top teir players... This kind of format is really what the scene needs more of imo.
#takemymoney
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Northern Ireland24214 Posts
Thank fuck our benevolent mod overlords came in to this thread.
Now I just hope everything goes smoothly with no bloody forfeits that really damaged the similar kind of tourney TB ran.
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Thanks! I'm very hyped for this! Can't wait to see who qualifies!!!
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Glad to see the fundraiser going well, being already 76% of the way there, (and there is over the $5000 threshold too :D) hopefully we can get way over the goal and show SC2 Esports some love :D
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On July 09 2014 01:14 vitruvia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 03:03 Incognoto wrote:On July 08 2014 01:45 vitruvia wrote:On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us. hmm, i'm always interested in the actual percentage of people who uses adblock while knowing its existence. People on either side of the fence always tend to think they are the majority in this case. I don't think "the rest of us" really means the rest of us. Using adblock on streams is a dick thing to do regardless of what color that fence is. i don't really think people care if it's a dick thing to do or not, or else we'd have a much better society. =/
Sorry about my post. I picked the dumbest way to say that I'm excited about the tourny. Good luck, hope it runs smoothly.
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I didn't know Life is playing in this. Awesome
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On July 08 2014 04:53 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 03:03 Incognoto wrote:On July 08 2014 01:45 vitruvia wrote:On July 07 2014 02:59 Crot4le wrote:On July 06 2014 01:44 MostGroce wrote:
I might even turn adblock off for this.
AdBlock should be off by default. If you don't want ads get Twitch Turbo like the rest of us. hmm, i'm always interested in the actual percentage of people who uses adblock while knowing its existence. People on either side of the fence always tend to think they are the majority in this case. I don't think "the rest of us" really means the rest of us. Using adblock on streams is a dick thing to do regardless of what color that fence is. One reason people ad block on streams is that pre-rolls are there. While it's not a good justification for doing it, it still discourages people from not having ad block on because pre-rolls are there.
I know why people do it. It's the same motivation behind why people pirate shit. But the fact is that Twitch Turbo accomplishes exactly the same thing without ripping off the streamer/caster.
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Sick Lineup so far! Also confirmed on his Indiegogo page :D Hopefully the rest are terrans :D
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Invite NANIWA! comeback time let's go
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the goal has been reached
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Awesome to see people come together and bring the money for this (and then some).
Looking forward to more confirmed invitees.
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So stoked for this! Let's get some Terran love to offset the obvious Zerg bias 
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On July 08 2014 08:00 ProTech wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?
Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc. Sure this is the thread. After all, you can see the different opinions about this streamer in particular that directly relates to my situation.
I'm sorry for this but so far you don't even deserve to be on front page of twitch. I can name 10 other streamers who could be there and it would be much more for them. You sir were just lucky and since you realized it your stream turned down to quality level "cant say the game name but everyone knows" so please stop being jealous about Destinys succes and his contribute to this community stop with stream, mby even uninstall obs and starcraft and fix your real life problems !
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On July 17 2014 20:58 Pharaphobia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:00 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?
Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc. Sure this is the thread. After all, you can see the different opinions about this streamer in particular that directly relates to my situation. I'm sorry for this but so far you don't even deserve to be on front page of twitch. I can name 10 other streamers who could be there and it would be much more for them. You sir were just lucky and since you realized it your stream turned down to quality level "cant say the game name but everyone knows" so please stop being jealous about Destinys succes and his contribute to this community stop with stream, mby even uninstall obs and starcraft and fix your real life problems ! User was warned for this postUser was warned for this post
why don't we let protech start his own 4k tournament with crowdfunding, then feature it on the tournament section :D?
if he does i'll chip in 200, and will deliver with proof..
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On July 19 2014 07:50 vitruvia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2014 20:58 Pharaphobia wrote:On July 08 2014 08:00 ProTech wrote:On July 08 2014 07:58 Wombat_NI wrote:
Protech while I sympathise, is this really the thread?
Hope this event runs smoothly, good initiative. Sick to death of people moaning about Destiny all the time, so fucking pious. This isn't to say you can't dislike his casting or stream, more people going out of their way to say they won't support anything associated with him/call him a horrible person etc. Sure this is the thread. After all, you can see the different opinions about this streamer in particular that directly relates to my situation. I'm sorry for this but so far you don't even deserve to be on front page of twitch. I can name 10 other streamers who could be there and it would be much more for them. You sir were just lucky and since you realized it your stream turned down to quality level "cant say the game name but everyone knows" so please stop being jealous about Destinys succes and his contribute to this community stop with stream, mby even uninstall obs and starcraft and fix your real life problems ! User was warned for this postUser was warned for this post why don't we let protech start his own 4k tournament with crowdfunding, then feature it on the tournament section :D? if he does i'll chip in 200, and will deliver with proof..
More realistic scenario would be that he would withdraw the money and pass away forever ! So hf with throwing 200 bucks :D
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Really nice lineup! Looking forward to dat neat tournament, you have put together there!
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Jesus, that is a really nice Lineup.
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Wow, the caster lineup of TB, Incontrol, Minigun, Nathanias, Tod and Rotti is so sick also.
This is shaping up to be a really sick online tournament. The player lineup is top notch, the caster lineup is phenomenal. I wish Destiny would also cast, but of course I am just thankful he decided to organize this tournament in the first place. I usually don't follow online tournaments (With the exception of Shoutcraft and the MLG GameOn stuff, this year) but I will tune in for this.
Also, gogo Inno.
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On July 30 2014 07:23 Josh_Video wrote:
Wow, the caster lineup of TB, Incontrol, Minigun, Nathanias, Tod and Rotti is so sick also.
This is shaping up to be a really sick online tournament. The player lineup is top notch, the caster lineup is phenomenal. I wish Destiny would also cast, but of course I am just thankful he decided to organize this tournament in the first place. I usually don't follow online tournaments (With the exception of Shoutcraft and the MLG GameOn stuff, this year) but I will tune in for this.
Also, gogo Inno.
I'll be casting every single day. <3
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I love you Steven <3 HEHEHE
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Looks better every day
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Dang dat player list doe. Ladder players got their work cut out for them!
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I'm just about to complete my master's thesis. And guess what I'll be watching while getting a little bit drunk! Stacked line-up, good casters - this should be an awesome event.
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Whoa. I decided to keep tabs on this tournament, and I've gotta say that this is one of the most meticulously organized StarCraft events I've seen.
Here's to many, many more Destiny tournaments!
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On July 30 2014 15:55 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 07:23 Josh_Video wrote:
Wow, the caster lineup of TB, Incontrol, Minigun, Nathanias, Tod and Rotti is so sick also.
This is shaping up to be a really sick online tournament. The player lineup is top notch, the caster lineup is phenomenal. I wish Destiny would also cast, but of course I am just thankful he decided to organize this tournament in the first place. I usually don't follow online tournaments (With the exception of Shoutcraft and the MLG GameOn stuff, this year) but I will tune in for this.
Also, gogo Inno. I'll be casting every single day. <3
You're the best!
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This looks great! I will be very interested in seeing who nabs those top 8 ladder spots......
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I can't wait for this tournament!!! So awesome lineup and casters!!!!
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Oh and ToD too! It's gonna be a riot =D
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United States97276 Posts
This tournament is really looking great so far. Interested to see who will get the ladder spots
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your Country52797 Posts
Excited to see who will place in the ladder qualifier.
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Sounds cool , looking forward to it
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The website is sick, money well spent yo
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On August 01 2014 09:48 iHirO wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eTVLPRr.png)
If i wasn't poor i'd gift you TL+ for showing me this.
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On August 01 2014 13:49 Josh_Video wrote:If i wasn't poor i'd gift you TL+ for showing me this.
Here, let me
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I dont see rotti on the Caster list anymore. Sup
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Someone told me I might inadvertently qualify for this tournament but I'm not available on the dates of the tournament so be sure to take the next guy.
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United States97276 Posts
with ~3 hrs 30 min left nios.kr says the standings are
top 8
+ Show Spoiler +1.  Apocalypse 2.  HuK 3.  Gamja 4. JonSnow 5. Minigun 6. Petraeus 7. Motok 8. Guitarcheese
Should be interesting to see how much it changes before midnight
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Anyone watching the stream right now? Interesting things are afoot...
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On August 01 2014 09:48 iHirO wrote:
All that work only for Scarlett to not be participating...
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Well I dont think it matters too much because he probably would be top 8 anyway, but gamja wintraded over 50 wins inarow with a barcode account.
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did he say if they are taking top 9 now with Scarlett withdrawing or are they going to invite a new player?
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Destiny is on the case! :D
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On August 04 2014 09:36 Shellshock wrote:with ~3 hrs 30 min left nios.kr says the standings are top 8 + Show Spoiler +1. Apocalypse 2. HuK 3. Gamja 4. JonSnow 5. Minigun 6. Petraeus 7. Motok 8. Guitarcheese Should be interesting to see how much it changes before midnight
Gamja is DQ'd for win-trading, even Gamja's manager looked over the replays and agreed with destiny on stream.
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Is destiny pulling a special agent Dale Cooper right now?
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Detective Destiny on the job right now.
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Detective destiny is pretty interesting to see :D
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Is destiny looking at the same barcode that traded with gamja? If so its a terran/zerg shared account and the user speaks korean? or w/e language it was I dont know, but it was not english.
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On August 04 2014 11:30 duckk wrote:
Well I dont think it matters too much because he probably would be top 8 anyway, but gamja wintraded over 50 wins inarow with a barcode account.
I have seen so many conflicting reports on this. Some say it was a couple of wins, some say it was as many as you say here.
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Just in case
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On August 04 2014 13:06 ObviousOne wrote:Just in case
destiny had the same list on his stream at 11pm. then made a new list at 11:10
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On August 04 2014 13:04 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 11:30 duckk wrote:
Well I dont think it matters too much because he probably would be top 8 anyway, but gamja wintraded over 50 wins inarow with a barcode account. I have seen so many conflicting reports on this. Some say it was a couple of wins, some say it was as many as you say here.
eh I had a screenshot, but I deleted it because he was good enough to where I do not think the trading made a difference other than time. It was no less than 25 games as the entire match histroy in my screenshot was +9-5s inarow from the same barcdoe who was in a clan called zzimba, and then 5 games playing me, then 3 more vs the same barcode and I dont know how many more from there.
If it was only a few him and the barcode would not have played 50 unit preloaders to clear their match history haha.
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On August 04 2014 13:06 ObviousOne wrote:Just in case
Why does everyone here have a us-american flag? I mean, Apoc is korean, HuK and Kane are canadian, Petraeus is from New Zealand and Adonminus is from Israel.
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On August 04 2014 18:44 Xoronius wrote:Why does everyone here have a us-american flag? I mean, Apoc is korean, HuK and Kane are canadian, Petraeus is from New Zealand and Adonminus is from Israel.
That's a ladder region flag ^^
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On August 04 2014 18:54 Pharaphobia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:44 Xoronius wrote:On August 04 2014 13:06 ObviousOne wrote:Just in case Why does everyone here have a us-american flag? I mean, Apoc is korean, HuK and Kane are canadian, Petraeus is from New Zealand and Adonminus is from Israel. That's a ladder region flag ^^
That makes a bit more sence, although it is weird, that they left out Canada and Mexico than. Anyway, thanks for the answer.
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Technically it is the America region so they would have to have every flag in two continents by that logic
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So why is Gamja disqualified for wintrading, but not Apocalypse? I know the latter qualified on his own accord, but he still participated in cheating.
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On August 04 2014 22:52 Grumbels wrote:
So why is Gamja disqualified for wintrading, but not Apocalypse? I know the latter qualified on his own accord, but he still participated in cheating.
Is it proven that the barcode was Apoc?
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On August 04 2014 22:52 Grumbels wrote:
So why is Gamja disqualified for wintrading, but not Apocalypse? I know the latter qualified on his own accord, but he still participated in cheating.
On Destiny's stream, he watched a few replays and did hotkey comparison. It showed that he was not the same person.
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Oh, thought destiny said on reddit it was apoc.
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Polt is playing Redbull Battleground this weekend, isn't it a problem if he qualifies for the quarterfinals ?
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wmb shall win this btw steven don't be so rude on skype
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Looks like you won the best players away from Dragon's tournament.
Why does everyone here have a us-american flag? I mean, Apoc is korean, HuK and Kane are canadian, Petraeus is from New Zealand and Adonminus is from Israel.
Good call.
edit: life is in both. I hope there's no conflicts between tournaments this week. I really just want to focus on this one this week
... why does it have to start at 6am for me though? hah.
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lol that was just how nios.kr lists the AM realm players, no intentional racism or whatever
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Anyone know what time this event actually starts? I dont live in USA so I really want to know what time. definitely watching this
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On August 05 2014 18:09 Yes Im Otto wrote:
Anyone know what time this event actually starts? I dont live in USA so I really want to know what time. definitely watching this
Another 4hrs and approx. 40 min ... look under Events on the teamliquid page. It's there.
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Countdown is on the front page of the website
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Oh man, Rotterdam had to bow out? That's a shame.
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I wish this was at a less insane time for NA peeps o.o Seems like a tournament for the NA scene should be most viewable for NA people no?
Literally my only complaint about this whole thing. Everything else is awesome and I love it.
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On August 05 2014 23:31 Noro wrote:
I wish this was at a less insane time for NA peeps o.o Seems like a tournament for the NA scene should be most viewable for NA people no?
Literally my only complaint about this whole thing. Everything else is awesome and I love it.
I think then it might be the middle of the night for the koreans, which might be bad for the players I guess?
I understand your complaint though.
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It is 10:30 east coast now. The majority of games will be early afternoon / midday for NA. On a Sunday seems like a fine time especially since it also helps other regions watch as well.
Weekday yes but not bad at all for a Sunday.
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