★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MC vs San Game 2?
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MC vs San Game 3?
★★★- Good game (4)
57%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MC vs San Game 4?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
86%
★★★- Good game (1)
14%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MC vs San Game 5?
★★★- Good game (2)
40%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 2?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
83%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 3?
★★★- Good game (9)
69%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 4?
★★★- Good game (3)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 5?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
63%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
25%
★★★- Good game (1)
6%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
6%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 2?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
75%
★★★- Good game (2)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 3?
★★★- Good game (8)
73%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 4?
★★★- Good game (4)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
30%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 5?
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 2?
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 3?
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 4?
★★★- Good game (5)
71%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 5?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
50%
★★★- Good game (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
On July 05 2014 18:04 Howlsc wrote: Why the hype for Vortix? What am i missing? Golden is top 5-10 zerg, Vortix is maybe top 50?
Golden is nowhere near top 10 Zerg, and Vortix is top 4 foreigner.
Not sure what to say other than I hope you enjoy your first time seeing Golden play?
He's not a top 10 zerg. What the fuck do you smoke?
should beat Vortix either way though.
Am sorry I meant in context of this matchup, you can maybe find 5 zerg to beat Golden in short series, you can't find 10.
Since when is Golden top-tier anything? Got a million e-sport dollars on the following killing Golden in ZvZ:
Life soO Soulkey Jaedong Hyun Byul Scarlett RorO Symbol DRG TRUE Solar Losira
Golden has swept a lot of those people multiple times and honestly some of those names are a joke compared to Golden, you need to see the guy play I'm telling you.
On July 05 2014 18:04 Howlsc wrote: Why the hype for Vortix? What am i missing? Golden is top 5-10 zerg, Vortix is maybe top 50?
Golden is nowhere near top 10 Zerg, and Vortix is top 4 foreigner.
Not sure what to say other than I hope you enjoy your first time seeing Golden play?
He's not a top 10 zerg. What the fuck do you smoke?
should beat Vortix either way though.
Am sorry I meant in context of this matchup, you can maybe find 5 zerg to beat Golden in short series, you can't find 10.
Since when is Golden top-tier anything? Got a million e-sport dollars on the following killing Golden in ZvZ:
Life soO Soulkey Jaedong Hyun Byul Scarlett RorO Symbol DRG TRUE Solar Losira
Golden has swept a lot of those people multiple times and honestly some of those names are a joke compared to Golden, you need to see the guy play I'm telling you.
Golden is 10 - 38 in maps win against these guys (source : http://aligulac.com/ ). That's a 20% winrate. He has NO positive reccord against any of these players. The closer is against Scarlett with Golden having 4 maps win and Scarlett 5. I think Golden has never played better than now during his career, but still Golden is nowhere near top 10 ZvZ.. Not even top 20
MC spawns in the top left San spawns in the top right
2:00 MC places his pylons funny and the casters freak out. San opening a gateway. MC starts with a forge! Two assimilators for San. San scouts the inside of his main base. MC sending out 2 probes, one after another.
3:00 MC walls, using some of San's buildings, and then cannon rushes. Cybernetics core finishing. San sends a probe to his gold base. Mothership core + stalker on the way. MC gets a cannon in his main, as well as a gateway + 2 assimilators.
4:00 San taking the gold base. MC unpowers the gateway. The zealot gets to MC's base and sees the cannon. MC gets a cannon in his mineral line.
5:00 The mothership core of San gets to MC's main and gets into an unreachable position. San's nexus is dying. San's nexus falls. Cybernetics core is falling for San.
6:00 MC gets a stalker out and begins mining. San starts mining from the gold. San getting a new gateway.
MC spawns in the top left San spawns in the top right
2:00 MC places his pylons funny and the casters freak out. San opening a gateway. MC starts with a forge! Two assimilators for San. San scouts the inside of his main base. MC sending out 2 probes, one after another.
3:00 MC walls, using some of San's buildings, and then cannon rushes. Cybernetics core finishing. San sends a probe to his gold base. Mothership core + stalker on the way. MC gets a cannon in his main, as well as a gateway + 2 assimilators.
4:00 San taking the gold base. MC unpowers the gateway. The zealot gets to MC's base and sees the cannon. MC gets a cannon in his mineral line.
5:00 The mothership core of San gets to MC's main and gets into an unreachable position. San's nexus is dying. San's nexus falls. Cybernetics core is falling for San.
6:00 MC gets a stalker out and begins mining. San starts mining from the gold. San getting a new gateway.
7:00 San 21 vs MC 22 San tries a poke but MC has 2 stalkers. MC building 2 more gateways. San getting a second gas in his gold base. San sending a stalker into his old main.
8:00 San 25 vs MC 24 MC sending out a probe. San getting a robotics facility. MC proxies a pylon which is seen. MC charges in and trades a stalker for a few probes.
9:00 San 27 vs MC 34 Immortal on the way for San. San is still not on warp gate technology. MC getting a few shots off on the cybernetics core.
10:00 San 31 vs MC 42 Photon overcharge expires. MC charges in, this time backed by a few zealots. MC kills the immortal and San GG's! MC takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
MC spawns in the bottom left San spawns in the top left
2:00 No shenanigans from either player. Both players building a gateway, followed by 2 assimilators. San getting his second pylon much faster.
3:00 Cybernetics core for both players. Stalker + warp gate research + mothership core for both players.
4:00 San's third pylon is faster as well. San's mothership core is scouting his base. Both players getting a twilight council. Mothership cores moving past each other.
5:00 Blink for San. Both players adding on two gateways. MC getting blink. San recalls his mothership core and MC retreats it. Robotics facility for both players, MC's is faster.
MC spawns in the bottom left San spawns in the top left
2:00 No shenanigans from either player. Both players building a gateway, followed by 2 assimilators. San getting his second pylon much faster.
3:00 Cybernetics core for both players. Stalker + warp gate research + mothership core for both players.
4:00 San's third pylon is faster as well. San's mothership core is scouting his base. Both players getting a twilight council. Mothership cores moving past each other.
5:00 Blink for San. Both players adding on two gateways. MC getting blink. San recalls his mothership core and MC retreats it. Robotics facility for both players, MC's is faster.
6:00 San has proxied a pylon. MC sees no expansion. MC proxies a pylon in a very similar position. San sends a probe to scout and gets chased back.
7:00 San 48 vs MC 44 San finds MC's proxy pylon. Observer for MC. San getting an immortal.
8:00 San 53 vs MC 46 MC scouts no nexus but a probe hiding. MC gets a full scout and sees himself in a mirror. San picks off the observer. Both players expanding, but MC's was ~30 seconds faster.
9:00 San 61 vs MC 56 Both players producing immortals. San scouting the main of MC with another observer. Forge for San.
10:00 San 68 vs MC 68 MC not getting a forge. San getting +1 attack. Forge for MC. San getting both assimilators in his natural.
MC spawns in the bottom left San spawns in the top left
2:00 No shenanigans from either player. Both players building a gateway, followed by 2 assimilators. San getting his second pylon much faster.
3:00 Cybernetics core for both players. Stalker + warp gate research + mothership core for both players.
4:00 San's third pylon is faster as well. San's mothership core is scouting his base. Both players getting a twilight council. Mothership cores moving past each other.
5:00 Blink for San. Both players adding on two gateways. MC getting blink. San recalls his mothership core and MC retreats it. Robotics facility for both players, MC's is faster.
6:00 San has proxied a pylon. MC sees no expansion. MC proxies a pylon in a very similar position. San sends a probe to scout and gets chased back.
7:00 San 48 vs MC 44 San finds MC's proxy pylon. Observer for MC. San getting an immortal.
8:00 San 53 vs MC 46 MC scouts no nexus but a probe hiding. MC gets a full scout and sees himself in a mirror. San picks off the observer. Both players expanding, but MC's was ~30 seconds faster.
9:00 San 61 vs MC 56 Both players producing immortals. San scouting the main of MC with another observer. Forge for San.
10:00 San 68 vs MC 68 MC not getting a forge. San getting +1 attack. Forge for MC. San getting both assimilators in his natural.
11:00 San 79 vs MC 80 Robotics bay for San. MC's robotics bay is slower, as well as his +1. San getting another observer. San moving out with his stalkers.
12:00 San 92 vs MC 92 Colossi + range for San. San getting 3 more gateways. MC getting a colossus and range as well. MC tries to harass the stalkers in the middle of the map.
13:00 San 101 vs MC 106 San taking a third base. San getting +2 attack. MC getting 4 more gateways.
14:00 San 102 vs MC 112 San building 2 more gateways. San researching charge. MC researching +2 attack. San sees the gateways of MC with an observer. Templar archives on the way for San.
15:00 San 117 vs MC 130 MC moving out with his army. San getting an archon. San sees no third base. MC going for the third base. San gets a little weirdly positioned on the ramp but manages to get into position on top.
MC spawns in the bottom left San spawns in the top left
2:00 No shenanigans from either player. Both players building a gateway, followed by 2 assimilators. San getting his second pylon much faster.
3:00 Cybernetics core for both players. Stalker + warp gate research + mothership core for both players.
4:00 San's third pylon is faster as well. San's mothership core is scouting his base. Both players getting a twilight council. Mothership cores moving past each other.
5:00 Blink for San. Both players adding on two gateways. MC getting blink. San recalls his mothership core and MC retreats it. Robotics facility for both players, MC's is faster.
6:00 San has proxied a pylon. MC sees no expansion. MC proxies a pylon in a very similar position. San sends a probe to scout and gets chased back.
7:00 San 48 vs MC 44 San finds MC's proxy pylon. Observer for MC. San getting an immortal.
8:00 San 53 vs MC 46 MC scouts no nexus but a probe hiding. MC gets a full scout and sees himself in a mirror. San picks off the observer. Both players expanding, but MC's was ~30 seconds faster.
9:00 San 61 vs MC 56 Both players producing immortals. San scouting the main of MC with another observer. Forge for San.
10:00 San 68 vs MC 68 MC not getting a forge. San getting +1 attack. Forge for MC. San getting both assimilators in his natural.
11:00 San 79 vs MC 80 Robotics bay for San. MC's robotics bay is slower, as well as his +1. San getting another observer. San moving out with his stalkers.
12:00 San 92 vs MC 92 Colossi + range for San. San getting 3 more gateways. MC getting a colossus and range as well. MC tries to harass the stalkers in the middle of the map.
13:00 San 101 vs MC 106 San taking a third base. San getting +2 attack. MC getting 4 more gateways.
14:00 San 102 vs MC 112 San building 2 more gateways. San researching charge. MC researching +2 attack. San sees the gateways of MC with an observer. Templar archives on the way for San.
15:00 San 117 vs MC 130 MC moving out with his army. San getting an archon. San sees no third base. MC going for the third base. San gets a little weirdly positioned on the ramp but manages to get into position on top.
17:00 San 116 vs MC 91 San forces MC's army to back up, exposing his colossi, and then San overpowers him. MC GG's! San ties up the series 1-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Gateway followed by 2 assimilators for both players. MC's second gas is slightly later than San's.
3:00 Faster cybernetics core for MC. Mothership core for both players.
4:00 Stargate for San. MC building a twilight council. San constructing a robotics facility.
5:00 MC getting two more gateways. San getting another gateway. One more gateway for San. MC researching blink.
6:00 MC recalls his MSC due to phoenixes that have just started. The first phoenix from San takes a bit of hull damage. Immortal being chronoboosted. MC getting a nexus.
7:00 San 45 vs MC 41 San lifts 3 probes at the same time and loses a phoenix. Immortal is out and forces MC to fall back a bit. A nexus from San is denied by the stalker pressure, however.
8:00 San 53 vs MC 48 MC backs off after FF'ing San's ramp and San expands. MC's expansion completes. MC pressuring the expansion and blinking back.
9:00 San 62 vs MC 60 San getting a forge and a robotics bay. MC building immortals of his own.
10:00 San 64 vs MC 73 San kills a few probes in MC's main base, and forces overcharge. +1 attack for San. MC getting a robotics bay.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Gateway followed by 2 assimilators for both players. MC's second gas is slightly later than San's.
3:00 Faster cybernetics core for MC. Mothership core for both players.
4:00 Stargate for San. MC building a twilight council. San constructing a robotics facility.
5:00 MC getting two more gateways. San getting another gateway. One more gateway for San. MC researching blink.
6:00 MC recalls his MSC due to phoenixes that have just started. The first phoenix from San takes a bit of hull damage. Immortal being chronoboosted. MC getting a nexus.
7:00 San 45 vs MC 41 San lifts 3 probes at the same time and loses a phoenix. Immortal is out and forces MC to fall back a bit. A nexus from San is denied by the stalker pressure, however.
8:00 San 53 vs MC 48 MC backs off after FF'ing San's ramp and San expands. MC's expansion completes. MC pressuring the expansion and blinking back.
9:00 San 62 vs MC 60 San getting a forge and a robotics bay. MC building immortals of his own.
10:00 San 64 vs MC 73 San kills a few probes in MC's main base, and forces overcharge. +1 attack for San. MC getting a robotics bay.
11:00 San 81 vs MC 89 MC is just one probe ahead. Twilight council for San. Extended thermal lance and a colossus for San. MC picks off a proxy pylon.
12:00 San 85 vs MC 92 San adding on two gateways. MC building 3 pylons, as he's supply blocked.
13:00 San 93 vs MC 99 MC getting 4 more gateways. San building 2 more gateways. San getting +2 attack. MC is half done with +1 attack. San scouting everything with an observer. San taking a third base. MC scouting with a hallucinated phoenix. MC taking a third base. MC scouts the third base of San.
14:00 San 111 vs MC 1114 San scouts MC's third base. MC getting +2 attack. Both players researching charge. MC moving out with some blink stalkers, killing a probe. Templar archives finishing for both players. MC pressuring the third nexus, killing nearly all the shield. MC moving out.
15:00 San 133 vs MC 140 San hallucinates a colossus. MC warping in an archon and 3 zealots near San's third base. Photon overcharge on the third. Hallucinated colossus scouts MC's third base. Engagement occurs.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Gateway followed by 2 assimilators for both players. MC's second gas is slightly later than San's.
3:00 Faster cybernetics core for MC. Mothership core for both players.
4:00 Stargate for San. MC building a twilight council. San constructing a robotics facility.
5:00 MC getting two more gateways. San getting another gateway. One more gateway for San. MC researching blink.
6:00 MC recalls his MSC due to phoenixes that have just started. The first phoenix from San takes a bit of hull damage. Immortal being chronoboosted. MC getting a nexus.
7:00 San 45 vs MC 41 San lifts 3 probes at the same time and loses a phoenix. Immortal is out and forces MC to fall back a bit. A nexus from San is denied by the stalker pressure, however.
8:00 San 53 vs MC 48 MC backs off after FF'ing San's ramp and San expands. MC's expansion completes. MC pressuring the expansion and blinking back.
9:00 San 62 vs MC 60 San getting a forge and a robotics bay. MC building immortals of his own.
10:00 San 64 vs MC 73 San kills a few probes in MC's main base, and forces overcharge. +1 attack for San. MC getting a robotics bay.
11:00 San 81 vs MC 89 MC is just one probe ahead. Twilight council for San. Extended thermal lance and a colossus for San. MC picks off a proxy pylon.
12:00 San 85 vs MC 92 San adding on two gateways. MC building 3 pylons, as he's supply blocked.
13:00 San 93 vs MC 99 MC getting 4 more gateways. San building 2 more gateways. San getting +2 attack. MC is half done with +1 attack. San scouting everything with an observer. San taking a third base. MC scouting with a hallucinated phoenix. MC taking a third base. MC scouts the third base of San.
14:00 San 111 vs MC 1114 San scouts MC's third base. MC getting +2 attack. Both players researching charge. MC moving out with some blink stalkers, killing a probe. Templar archives finishing for both players. MC pressuring the third nexus, killing nearly all the shield. MC moving out.
15:00 San 133 vs MC 140 San hallucinates a colossus. MC warping in an archon and 3 zealots near San's third base. Photon overcharge on the third. Hallucinated colossus scouts MC's third base. Engagement occurs.
16:00 San 158 vs MC 155 Both players back up. MC moves some stalkers in to work on the nexus. MC researching +3 attack. San moving out to deal with the stalker pressure. Phoenixes picking up both of MC's immortals.
17:00 San 122 vs MC 98 MC backing up with his remaining 2 colossi, one of which is picked off. MC kills a few of San's chasing units.
18:00 San 122 vs MC 115 San going towards MS's third base. MC gets a really good concave but San has more stuff out. San runs into MC's main. All of the probes in MC's natural die. MC GG's! San takes a 2-1 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 05 2014 23:58 AWalker9 wrote: San gonna make the final at the very least this time.
Completely agree with you
I belive in Vortexa thing called roach
Actually I believe that the only two guys who could eventually pose a threat are Vortix and First, but only because Vortix could be relatively unknown (emphasys on relatively) and First has stayed under the radar... or Welmu, that is... but I don't see him going past first out of a gut prediction.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway for both players. Both players getting 2 assimilators at about the same time. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 MC getting a faster mothership core. Both players getting stalkers.
4:00 San's mothership core begins. San building a pylon at the empty main's ramp. Twilight council on the way for San. MC getting a twilight council later. MC moving out with his mothership core. 2 more gateways for both players. MC sees the mothership core and backs up.
5:00 Blink for both players. But what of San's mysterious proxy pylon? MC's mothership core gets away. MC moving out with 3 stalkers. MC getting a robotics facility.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway for both players. Both players getting 2 assimilators at about the same time. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 MC getting a faster mothership core. Both players getting stalkers.
4:00 San's mothership core begins. San building a pylon at the empty main's ramp. Twilight council on the way for San. MC getting a twilight council later. MC moving out with his mothership core. 2 more gateways for both players. MC sees the mothership core and backs up.
5:00 Blink for both players. But what of San's mysterious proxy pylon? MC's mothership core gets away. MC moving out with 3 stalkers. MC getting a robotics facility.
6:00 Robotics facility for San. San proxies a pylon much closer to MC's base and it's immediately spotted. MC moving out again and proxying a pylon.
7:00 San 52 vs MC 48 San proxying a pylon. MC expanding. MC backing away. San sees the expansion of MC.
8:00 San 56 vs MC 56 MC's pylon is not seen but it sees San moving out. MC puts a concave at the ramp of his natural. MC has gotten an immortal and 2 sentries out.
9:00 San 65 vs MC 66 San cancels his proxy pylon. San expands. MC moves a zealot into San's main, seeing the natural expansion and the tech but not killing a probe.
10:00 San 74 vs MC 80 Forge on the way for MC. San kills MC's proxy pylon and MC returns the favor. San moving out.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway for both players. Both players getting 2 assimilators at about the same time. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 MC getting a faster mothership core. Both players getting stalkers.
4:00 San's mothership core begins. San building a pylon at the empty main's ramp. Twilight council on the way for San. MC getting a twilight council later. MC moving out with his mothership core. 2 more gateways for both players. MC sees the mothership core and backs up.
5:00 Blink for both players. But what of San's mysterious proxy pylon? MC's mothership core gets away. MC moving out with 3 stalkers. MC getting a robotics facility.
6:00 Robotics facility for San. San proxies a pylon much closer to MC's base and it's immediately spotted. MC moving out again and proxying a pylon.
7:00 San 52 vs MC 48 San proxying a pylon. MC expanding. MC backing away. San sees the expansion of MC.
8:00 San 56 vs MC 56 MC's pylon is not seen but it sees San moving out. MC puts a concave at the ramp of his natural. MC has gotten an immortal and 2 sentries out.
9:00 San 65 vs MC 66 San cancels his proxy pylon. San expands. MC moves a zealot into San's main, seeing the natural expansion and the tech but not killing a probe.
10:00 San 74 vs MC 80 Forge on the way for MC. San kills MC's proxy pylon and MC returns the favor. San moving out.
11:00 San 84 vs MC 90 +1 for both players. Robotics facility for both players but MC's is faster.
12:00 San 88 vs MC 100 Observer for San. Three gateways for MC. San scouting everything in MC's main with his observer but gets out of there. Both players getting a colossus. Extended thermal lance for both players.
13:00 San 102 vs MC 112 Stalker engagement where both players blink and blink and blink but nothing happens. MC blinks in and kills 2 stalkers. San scouts MC placing a third base.
14:00 San 110 vs MC 122 Two more gateways for San. MC researching charge. Templar archives for San.
15:00 San 116 vs MC 130 Stalker vs Stalker in the center which MC sees the colossus with. 2 colossi are hallucinated for MC, which San sees. MC scouting with his stalkers.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway for both players. Both players getting 2 assimilators at about the same time. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 MC getting a faster mothership core. Both players getting stalkers.
4:00 San's mothership core begins. San building a pylon at the empty main's ramp. Twilight council on the way for San. MC getting a twilight council later. MC moving out with his mothership core. 2 more gateways for both players. MC sees the mothership core and backs up.
5:00 Blink for both players. But what of San's mysterious proxy pylon? MC's mothership core gets away. MC moving out with 3 stalkers. MC getting a robotics facility.
6:00 Robotics facility for San. San proxies a pylon much closer to MC's base and it's immediately spotted. MC moving out again and proxying a pylon.
7:00 San 52 vs MC 48 San proxying a pylon. MC expanding. MC backing away. San sees the expansion of MC.
8:00 San 56 vs MC 56 MC's pylon is not seen but it sees San moving out. MC puts a concave at the ramp of his natural. MC has gotten an immortal and 2 sentries out.
9:00 San 65 vs MC 66 San cancels his proxy pylon. San expands. MC moves a zealot into San's main, seeing the natural expansion and the tech but not killing a probe.
10:00 San 74 vs MC 80 Forge on the way for MC. San kills MC's proxy pylon and MC returns the favor. San moving out.
11:00 San 84 vs MC 90 +1 for both players. Robotics facility for both players but MC's is faster.
12:00 San 88 vs MC 100 Observer for San. Three gateways for MC. San scouting everything in MC's main with his observer but gets out of there. Both players getting a colossus. Extended thermal lance for both players.
13:00 San 102 vs MC 112 Stalker engagement where both players blink and blink and blink but nothing happens. MC blinks in and kills 2 stalkers. San scouts MC placing a third base.
14:00 San 110 vs MC 122 Two more gateways for San. MC researching charge. Templar archives for San.
15:00 San 116 vs MC 130 Stalker vs Stalker in the center which MC sees the colossus with. 2 colossi are hallucinated for MC, which San sees. MC scouting with his stalkers.
16:00 San 134 vs MC 154 Both players finishing +2 attack. San getting a third base. MC getting +2 attack. San backing off. San still has his observer. Hallcunated phoenix sees the army in San's natural and the third base.
17:00 San 165 vs MC 177 More stalkers poke at each other in the center. MC getting +3 attack. Scouting zealot from MC is picked off. MC moving out.
18:00 San 177 vs MC 191 MC only mining with about 13-14 probes from his third base, and just minerals there. MC preparing his attack as he maxes out.
19:00 San 196 vs MC 199 MC going in for an attack. San wastes his zealots initially. LASERS. MC's reinforcing zealots are stuck for a while. San keeping his colossi alive, and has 5 versus 0 at the end of it all.
20:00 San 93 vs MC 82 San is behind 37-63 in probes. +3 finishing for MC. Dark shrine for MC. MC going for San's third with zealots. San going for MC's third with his colossi army.
That was a terrible engagement by MC. Half of San's army was up the ramp which means that all of MC's zealots were clumped up on a small area. Honestly I was predicting MC to lose that engagement even without San having to pull probes.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway for both players. Both players getting 2 assimilators at about the same time. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 MC getting a faster mothership core. Both players getting stalkers.
4:00 San's mothership core begins. San building a pylon at the empty main's ramp. Twilight council on the way for San. MC getting a twilight council later. MC moving out with his mothership core. 2 more gateways for both players. MC sees the mothership core and backs up.
5:00 Blink for both players. But what of San's mysterious proxy pylon? MC's mothership core gets away. MC moving out with 3 stalkers. MC getting a robotics facility.
6:00 Robotics facility for San. San proxies a pylon much closer to MC's base and it's immediately spotted. MC moving out again and proxying a pylon.
7:00 San 52 vs MC 48 San proxying a pylon. MC expanding. MC backing away. San sees the expansion of MC.
8:00 San 56 vs MC 56 MC's pylon is not seen but it sees San moving out. MC puts a concave at the ramp of his natural. MC has gotten an immortal and 2 sentries out.
9:00 San 65 vs MC 66 San cancels his proxy pylon. San expands. MC moves a zealot into San's main, seeing the natural expansion and the tech but not killing a probe.
10:00 San 74 vs MC 80 Forge on the way for MC. San kills MC's proxy pylon and MC returns the favor. San moving out.
11:00 San 84 vs MC 90 +1 for both players. Robotics facility for both players but MC's is faster.
12:00 San 88 vs MC 100 Observer for San. Three gateways for MC. San scouting everything in MC's main with his observer but gets out of there. Both players getting a colossus. Extended thermal lance for both players.
13:00 San 102 vs MC 112 Stalker engagement where both players blink and blink and blink but nothing happens. MC blinks in and kills 2 stalkers. San scouts MC placing a third base.
14:00 San 110 vs MC 122 Two more gateways for San. MC researching charge. Templar archives for San.
15:00 San 116 vs MC 130 Stalker vs Stalker in the center which MC sees the colossus with. 2 colossi are hallucinated for MC, which San sees. MC scouting with his stalkers.
16:00 San 134 vs MC 154 Both players finishing +2 attack. San getting a third base. MC getting +2 attack. San backing off. San still has his observer. Hallcunated phoenix sees the army in San's natural and the third base.
17:00 San 165 vs MC 177 More stalkers poke at each other in the center. MC getting +3 attack. Scouting zealot from MC is picked off. MC moving out.
18:00 San 177 vs MC 191 MC only mining with about 13-14 probes from his third base, and just minerals there. MC preparing his attack as he maxes out.
19:00 San 196 vs MC 199 MC going in for an attack. San wastes his zealots initially. LASERS. MC's reinforcing zealots are stuck for a while. San keeping his colossi alive, and has 5 versus 0 at the end of it all.
20:00 San 93 vs MC 82 San is behind 37-63 in probes. +3 finishing for MC. Dark shrine for MC. MC going for San's third with zealots. San going for MC's third with his colossi army.
21:00 San 104 vs MC 88 San holds his third base while killing MC's. MC re-taking his third base. Dark shrine finishing.
22:00 San 115 vs MC 88 MC sending out 2 DTs. +1 ground armor for San. San has a cannon in his third and an observer + army in the natural. MC's DTs get nothing done.
23:00 San 138 vs MC 108 San moving out with 6 colossi and 6 archons.
24:00 San 158 vs MC 120 San moving for MC's third base. MC spreads his army. San charges into the third base.
25:00 San 103 vs MC 61 MC manages to hold and kill the archons. Both players positioning. San tries again but has to back off due to poor positioning.
26:00 San 113 vs MC 66 MC trying to chase San off but is slowly losing his colossi. San moving into the natural.
On July 06 2014 00:16 SNSeigifried wrote: San held because he had a better position which made his timewarps more effective and the stalkers of san were dealing alot of dmg to the collous.
Exactly. Actually MC didn't have any kind of army advantage, his +3 wasn't finished yet, he didn't have a lot more colossi/archons/immortals etc. Imo he should have just stayed home, get the gas at his third and maybe prepare tempest tech.
MC spawns in the top right San spawns in the top left
2:00 Gateway for both players. Both players getting 2 assimilators at about the same time. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 MC getting a faster mothership core. Both players getting stalkers.
4:00 San's mothership core begins. San building a pylon at the empty main's ramp. Twilight council on the way for San. MC getting a twilight council later. MC moving out with his mothership core. 2 more gateways for both players. MC sees the mothership core and backs up.
5:00 Blink for both players. But what of San's mysterious proxy pylon? MC's mothership core gets away. MC moving out with 3 stalkers. MC getting a robotics facility.
6:00 Robotics facility for San. San proxies a pylon much closer to MC's base and it's immediately spotted. MC moving out again and proxying a pylon.
7:00 San 52 vs MC 48 San proxying a pylon. MC expanding. MC backing away. San sees the expansion of MC.
8:00 San 56 vs MC 56 MC's pylon is not seen but it sees San moving out. MC puts a concave at the ramp of his natural. MC has gotten an immortal and 2 sentries out.
9:00 San 65 vs MC 66 San cancels his proxy pylon. San expands. MC moves a zealot into San's main, seeing the natural expansion and the tech but not killing a probe.
10:00 San 74 vs MC 80 Forge on the way for MC. San kills MC's proxy pylon and MC returns the favor. San moving out.
11:00 San 84 vs MC 90 +1 for both players. Robotics facility for both players but MC's is faster.
12:00 San 88 vs MC 100 Observer for San. Three gateways for MC. San scouting everything in MC's main with his observer but gets out of there. Both players getting a colossus. Extended thermal lance for both players.
13:00 San 102 vs MC 112 Stalker engagement where both players blink and blink and blink but nothing happens. MC blinks in and kills 2 stalkers. San scouts MC placing a third base.
14:00 San 110 vs MC 122 Two more gateways for San. MC researching charge. Templar archives for San.
15:00 San 116 vs MC 130 Stalker vs Stalker in the center which MC sees the colossus with. 2 colossi are hallucinated for MC, which San sees. MC scouting with his stalkers.
16:00 San 134 vs MC 154 Both players finishing +2 attack. San getting a third base. MC getting +2 attack. San backing off. San still has his observer. Hallcunated phoenix sees the army in San's natural and the third base.
17:00 San 165 vs MC 177 More stalkers poke at each other in the center. MC getting +3 attack. Scouting zealot from MC is picked off. MC moving out.
18:00 San 177 vs MC 191 MC only mining with about 13-14 probes from his third base, and just minerals there. MC preparing his attack as he maxes out.
19:00 San 196 vs MC 199 MC going in for an attack. San wastes his zealots initially. LASERS. MC's reinforcing zealots are stuck for a while. San keeping his colossi alive, and has 5 versus 0 at the end of it all.
20:00 San 93 vs MC 82 San is behind 37-63 in probes. +3 finishing for MC. Dark shrine for MC. MC going for San's third with zealots. San going for MC's third with his colossi army.
21:00 San 104 vs MC 88 San holds his third base while killing MC's. MC re-taking his third base. Dark shrine finishing.
22:00 San 115 vs MC 88 MC sending out 2 DTs. +1 ground armor for San. San has a cannon in his third and an observer + army in the natural. MC's DTs get nothing done.
23:00 San 138 vs MC 108 San moving out with 6 colossi and 6 archons.
24:00 San 158 vs MC 120 San moving for MC's third base. MC spreads his army. San charges into the third base.
25:00 San 103 vs MC 61 MC manages to hold and kill the archons. Both players positioning. San tries again but has to back off due to poor positioning.
26:00 San 113 vs MC 66 MC trying to chase San off but is slowly losing his colossi. San moving into the natural.
27:00 MC GG's! San wins 3-1 and advances into the RO4!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend MC vs San Game 5?
★★★- Good game (2)
40%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
20%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MC vs San Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I'm probably one of the few to enjoy ZvZ matchup. the sounds of all those roaches squeeling as they die is music to my ears, plus the ling bling antics in early game :D
I'm probably one of the few to enjoy ZvZ matchup. the sounds of all those roaches squeeling as they die is music to my ears, plus the ling bling antics in early game :D
Sorry don't get me wrong, I absolutely love ZvZ to watch and play.
I just hate losing one of the zergs for definite this early.
Speaking of translators, who do you guys are the best in the industry accross all titles ? Chobra, smix, and susie get my vote, but im curious if there are better ones out there. Please don't say that chinese guy from TI3.....
I'm probably one of the few to enjoy ZvZ matchup. the sounds of all those roaches squeeling as they die is music to my ears, plus the ling bling antics in early game :D
The amount I like LRing/watching a matchup is inversely proportional to how much I like to actually play it. I like LRing ZvZ a lot. >.>
On July 06 2014 00:23 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: My korean is pretty bad, but this girl is missing out a lot of what San is saying.
nah she isn't
Didn't he say that if he won he would be able to play in Kespa Cup? Instead she said something like it would be his third WCS win?
Top two advance to the KeSPA Cup, yeah. Poor girl got thrown into the firing line quickly. Would have been better if reis or inuh was there to translate but I guess they aren't available (well I guess no inuh because no MMA).
But as someone who's been learning Korean for quite some time, from what I'm hearing she's obviously not that great at Korean. Her questioning sentences sound basic/dumbed down and her translation of responses are very condensed.
On July 06 2014 00:26 kottbullar wrote: Speaking of translators, who do you guys are the best in the industry accross all titles ? Chobra, smix, and susie get my vote, but im curious if there are better ones out there. Please don't say that chinese guy from TI3.....
I'm probably one of the few to enjoy ZvZ matchup. the sounds of all those roaches squeeling as they die is music to my ears, plus the ling bling antics in early game :D
Sorry don't get me wrong, I absolutely love ZvZ to watch and play.
I just hate losing one of the zergs for definite this early.
Also I love ZvT , best matchup in Sc2 imo.
oh right. yeah definitely agree with you there, on all points. ZvT ftw (really want ForGG to win his match)
On July 06 2014 00:23 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: My korean is pretty bad, but this girl is missing out a lot of what San is saying.
nah she isn't
Didn't he say that if he won he would be able to play in Kespa Cup? Instead she said something like it would be his third WCS win?
Top two advance to the KeSPA Cup, yeah. Poor girl got thrown into the firing line quickly. Would have been better if reis or inuh was there to translate but I guess they aren't available.
I was thinking she didn't seem to be translating very well, but I don't speak Korean so it's hard to tell. Could have just been nerves as far as I can tell.
However, what I was also thinking is that the good thing about not being a known translator is that she probably doesn't read this, so she doesn't need to know about all the fire she takes.
On July 06 2014 00:26 kottbullar wrote: Speaking of translators, who do you guys are the best in the industry accross all titles ? Chobra, smix, and susie get my vote, but im curious if there are better ones out there. Please don't say that chinese guy from TI3.....
On July 06 2014 00:23 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: My korean is pretty bad, but this girl is missing out a lot of what San is saying.
nah she isn't
Didn't he say that if he won he would be able to play in Kespa Cup? Instead she said something like it would be his third WCS win?
Top two advance to the KeSPA Cup, yeah. Poor girl got thrown into the firing line quickly. Would have been better if reis or inuh was there to translate but I guess they aren't available.
I was thinking she didn't seem to be translating very well, but I don't speak Korean so it's hard to tell. Could have just been nerves as far as I can tell.
However, what I was also thinking is that the good thing about not being a known translator is that she probably doesn't read this, so she doesn't need to know about all the fire she takes.
"All the fire" is like 3 nerds bitching about something that isn't a big deal.
On July 06 2014 00:31 Shellshock wrote: Unfortunately I missed the games. Did MC play as passive/scared against San as he did when they met last season?
No, he over corrected and got unnecessarily aggressive (classic MC style) and San had incredible engagements to MC's near A-move and just got outclassed.
On July 06 2014 00:31 Shellshock wrote: Unfortunately I missed the games. Did MC play as passive/scared against San as he did when they met last season?
No, he over corrected and got unnecessarily aggressive (classic MC style) and San had incredible engagements to MC's near A-move and just got outclassed.
On July 06 2014 00:23 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: My korean is pretty bad, but this girl is missing out a lot of what San is saying.
nah she isn't
Didn't he say that if he won he would be able to play in Kespa Cup? Instead she said something like it would be his third WCS win?
Top two advance to the KeSPA Cup, yeah. Poor girl got thrown into the firing line quickly. Would have been better if reis or inuh was there to translate but I guess they aren't available.
I was thinking she didn't seem to be translating very well, but I don't speak Korean so it's hard to tell. Could have just been nerves as far as I can tell.
However, what I was also thinking is that the good thing about not being a known translator is that she probably doesn't read this, so she doesn't need to know about all the fire she takes.
"All the fire" is like 3 nerds bitching about something that isn't a big deal.
I reckon she would be able to handle it
Haha, well yes. But I was thinking in general and just not for this one time.
On July 06 2014 00:31 Shellshock wrote: Unfortunately I missed the games. Did MC play as passive/scared against San as he did when they met last season?
No, he over corrected and got unnecessarily aggressive (classic MC style) and San had incredible engagements to MC's near A-move and just got outclassed.
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
um..... thats how math works.
welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.
Its the same as saying. if soo won vs classic he would get from 90% to 100% but if classic wins its ~1% -> 99.9%
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
Because ForGG and Stardust/First get knocked out probably.
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
I think it's because Vortix's next opponent, if he wins, is San, which is extremely favored for the latter, while Welmu would have a better chance in a PvP.
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
um..... thats how math works.
welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.
I think he's referring to the fact that even though Vortix's odds are currently higher, he's at 99.69% if he wins and Welmu's at 99.99% if he wins.
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
um..... thats how math works.
welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.
If he's closer to already being in than him getting the same number of points puts him 'farther in' for a lack of a better term and should mean he has a higher chance of making blizzcon. Not lower
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
um..... thats how math works.
welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.
I think he's referring to the fact that even though Vortix's odds are currently higher, he's at 99.69% if he wins and Welmu's at 99.99% if he wins.
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
um..... thats how math works.
welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.
If he's closer to already being in than him getting the same number of points puts him 'farther in' for a lack of a better term and should mean he has a higher chance of making blizzcon. Not lower
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
um..... thats how math works.
welmu has lower points than vortix. vortix is already closer to the average points of top 16 than welmu.
I think he's referring to the fact that even though Vortix's odds are currently higher, he's at 99.69% if he wins and Welmu's at 99.99% if he wins.
WCS EU S2 Premier - MC is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.31 % of the time MC wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 62.69 % of the time MC loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- - San is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.69 % of the time San wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 37.31 % of the time San loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - VortiX is at ~ 25.52 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time VortiX wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 37.44 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time VortiX loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 8.82 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Golden is at ~ 7.38 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 41.64 % of the time Golden wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 14.87 %. ~ 58.36 % of the time Golden loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 2.03 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - ForGG is at ~ 39.18 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 62.22 % of the time ForGG wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 53.56 %. ~ 37.78 % of the time ForGG loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 15.48 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Welmu is at ~ 12.27 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 37.78 % of the time Welmu wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 26.79 %. ~ 62.22 % of the time Welmu loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 3.45 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier - First is at ~ 21.01 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 51.36 % of the time First wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 35.23 %. ~ 48.64 % of the time First loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 5.98 %. ------------------------------------------------- - StarDust is at ~ 83.45 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 48.64 % of the time StarDust wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 96.61 %. ~ 51.36 % of the time StarDust loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 70.99 %.
WCS EU S2 Premier San has a ~ 22.84 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % ForGG has a ~ 16.05 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 39.18 % to ~ 99.99 % StarDust has a ~ 14.09 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 83.45 % to ~ 100 % First has a ~ 13.25 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 21.01 % to ~ 95.7 % VortiX has a ~ 13.23 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 25.52 % to ~ 99.69 % MC has a ~ 10.16 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 100 % to ~ 100 % Golden has a ~ 5.47 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 7.38 % to ~ 80.55 % Welmu has a ~ 4.91 % chance to win. This would increase their Blizzcon chances from ~ 12.27 % to ~ 99.99 %
How does Vortix start with a higher chance of going to blizzcon than Welmu, yet if Welmu wins his chances go up to higher than vortix's chance if he were win?
Because ForGG and Stardust/First get knocked out probably.
To clarify, ForGG and Stardust/First are less likely to challenge for a spot if Welmu makes the finals/wins.
VortiX spawns in the bottom left Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 15 pools from both players. Both players expanding.
3:00 Both players getting a queen. Two zerglings for Golden are faster than VortiX. Both players took one extractor.
4:00 Both players moving out with 2 zerglings. VortiX denies a scout from Golden.
5:00 Golden gets in anyway, but VortiX did too. Baneling nest for Vortix. Both players researching zergling speed. Golden scouts the baneling nest. Spine crawler for Golden.
had a full wall off with evos to keep out goldens lings, then canceled the third evo when he thought golden pulled back, only for golden to rush in with his ling pack. vortix lost 2 queens and some drones due to the early cancel
VortiX spawns in the bottom left Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 15 pools from both players. Both players expanding.
3:00 Both players getting a queen. Two zerglings for Golden are faster than VortiX. Both players took one extractor.
4:00 Both players moving out with 2 zerglings. VortiX denies a scout from Golden.
5:00 Golden gets in anyway, but VortiX did too. Baneling nest for Vortix. Both players researching zergling speed. Golden scouts the baneling nest. Spine crawler for Golden.
6:00 Drones and an evolution chamber for VortiX. Golden moving out with 12 zerglings. VortiX completes a wall. Vortix cancels an evolution chamber, allowing Golden to get a ton of zerglings into his natural. Golden getting a third base.
7:00 VortiX 48 vs Golden 55 A couple of drones and 2 queens die. Lair and more zerglings for Vortix. Vortix getting a bunch of zerglings to Golden's third and force a cancel. Roach warren finishing for Golden.
8:00 VortiX 55 vs Golden 68 Golden has 3 evolution chambers while Vortix has two. Roaches on the way for both players. Roach speed for Vortix. +1 ranged attack finishes for Vortix.
9:00 VortiX 70 vs Golden 71 Golden has about 30 drones mining minerals in his natural and not enough in the main base. VortiX delaying Golden's third again while taking his own. +1/2 for Vortix while Golden gets +1 ranged attack.
10:00 VortiX 84 vs Golden 83 Golden tries to pressure the third of Vortix with zerglings but there are roaches ready. Roach speed starts for Golden. Zegrlings still poking around the third. Golden getting his third base again.
VortiX spawns in the bottom left Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 15 pools from both players. Both players expanding.
3:00 Both players getting a queen. Two zerglings for Golden are faster than VortiX. Both players took one extractor.
4:00 Both players moving out with 2 zerglings. VortiX denies a scout from Golden.
5:00 Golden gets in anyway, but VortiX did too. Baneling nest for Vortix. Both players researching zergling speed. Golden scouts the baneling nest. Spine crawler for Golden.
6:00 Drones and an evolution chamber for VortiX. Golden moving out with 12 zerglings. VortiX completes a wall. Vortix cancels an evolution chamber, allowing Golden to get a ton of zerglings into his natural. Golden getting a third base.
7:00 VortiX 48 vs Golden 55 A couple of drones and 2 queens die. Lair and more zerglings for Vortix. Vortix getting a bunch of zerglings to Golden's third and force a cancel. Roach warren finishing for Golden.
8:00 VortiX 55 vs Golden 68 Golden has 3 evolution chambers while Vortix has two. Roaches on the way for both players. Roach speed for Vortix. +1 ranged attack finishes for Vortix.
9:00 VortiX 70 vs Golden 71 Golden has about 30 drones mining minerals in his natural and not enough in the main base. VortiX delaying Golden's third again while taking his own. +1/2 for Vortix while Golden gets +1 ranged attack.
10:00 VortiX 84 vs Golden 83 Golden tries to pressure the third of Vortix with zerglings but there are roaches ready. Roach speed starts for Golden. Zegrlings still poking around the third. Golden getting his third base again.
11:00 VortiX 115 vs Golden 119 VortiX moving into the third with roaches but Golden has more roaches. Roaches attack roaches. Roaches die. Vortix backs his roaches up. Golden starts +1/2 for his roaches.
12:00 VortiX 136 vs Golden 140 Both players producing more roaches. +2 carapace starts for Golden as +2 attack finishes. Roaches kill rocks on both sides. Gold base for Vortix. Golden getting a macro hatchery in his main.
13:00 VortiX 163 vs Golden 160 Golden's roaches are moving out. Vortix sees the roaches of Golden. Golden sees Vortix's roaches. Burrow and burrow movement for Golden's roaches. Vortix positioning his roaches between his natural and gold. Golden taking the gold base.
14:00 VortiX 199 vs Golden 189 Vortix moving out with roaches. Golden abandons the golden base. Roaches moving into Vortix's main. Some drones and queens are picked up by the roaches.
15:00 VortiX 197 vs Golden 199 Both players have maxed on roaches. Vortix has fewer drones but more roaches. Burrow movement for Vortix. Golden gets more roaches into Vortix's natural. Golden moving into the gold of Vortix. Vortix has more roaches. Golden has fewer roaches. Roaches are still doing damage in the natural and main of Vortix.
VortiX spawns in the bottom left Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 15 pools from both players. Both players expanding.
3:00 Both players getting a queen. Two zerglings for Golden are faster than VortiX. Both players took one extractor.
4:00 Both players moving out with 2 zerglings. VortiX denies a scout from Golden.
5:00 Golden gets in anyway, but VortiX did too. Baneling nest for Vortix. Both players researching zergling speed. Golden scouts the baneling nest. Spine crawler for Golden.
6:00 Drones and an evolution chamber for VortiX. Golden moving out with 12 zerglings. VortiX completes a wall. Vortix cancels an evolution chamber, allowing Golden to get a ton of zerglings into his natural. Golden getting a third base.
7:00 VortiX 48 vs Golden 55 A couple of drones and 2 queens die. Lair and more zerglings for Vortix. Vortix getting a bunch of zerglings to Golden's third and force a cancel. Roach warren finishing for Golden.
8:00 VortiX 55 vs Golden 68 Golden has 3 evolution chambers while Vortix has two. Roaches on the way for both players. Roach speed for Vortix. +1 ranged attack finishes for Vortix.
9:00 VortiX 70 vs Golden 71 Golden has about 30 drones mining minerals in his natural and not enough in the main base. VortiX delaying Golden's third again while taking his own. +1/2 for Vortix while Golden gets +1 ranged attack.
10:00 VortiX 84 vs Golden 83 Golden tries to pressure the third of Vortix with zerglings but there are roaches ready. Roach speed starts for Golden. Zegrlings still poking around the third. Golden getting his third base again.
11:00 VortiX 115 vs Golden 119 VortiX moving into the third with roaches but Golden has more roaches. Roaches attack roaches. Roaches die. Vortix backs his roaches up. Golden starts +1/2 for his roaches.
12:00 VortiX 136 vs Golden 140 Both players producing more roaches. +2 carapace starts for Golden as +2 attack finishes. Roaches kill rocks on both sides. Gold base for Vortix. Golden getting a macro hatchery in his main.
13:00 VortiX 163 vs Golden 160 Golden's roaches are moving out. Vortix sees the roaches of Golden. Golden sees Vortix's roaches. Burrow and burrow movement for Golden's roaches. Vortix positioning his roaches between his natural and gold. Golden taking the gold base.
14:00 VortiX 199 vs Golden 189 Vortix moving out with roaches. Golden abandons the golden base. Roaches moving into Vortix's main. Some drones and queens are picked up by the roaches.
15:00 VortiX 197 vs Golden 199 Both players have maxed on roaches. Vortix has fewer drones but more roaches. Burrow movement for Vortix. Golden gets more roaches into Vortix's natural. Golden moving into the gold of Vortix. Vortix has more roaches. Golden has fewer roaches. Roaches are still doing damage in the natural and main of Vortix.
17:00 VortiX 191 vs Golden 200 Vortix attacking with roaches. Vortix's roaches are damaged. Golden also has more roaches. Golden moving out again with his roaches. Vortix has a lot fewer roaches.
18:00 VortiX 155 vs Golden 186 Vortix getting crushed by the roach army of Golden, despite having roaches as well. Vortix trying zerglings but GG's. Golden takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 01:02 Circumstance wrote: Both players figured out what they needed to do while they were behind. Golden just wound up being behind later because he was ahead earlier.
Is it really? Honest question, I know Golden's path up until now wasn't the hardest but I don't recall Vortix being more than "good" in ZvZ, rather than absolutely dominating...
On July 06 2014 01:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: how do you not build spores the first time a roach burrows in your base?
because you have overseers, which he build but his army was kept busy and he didn't split right. Vortix minimap awareness seems to not be the best, atleast most of the time I see him losing to those kind of plays.
ahh you remember when Golden and Sound were suppose to be the next big koreans? they killed it at MLG or whatever tourney it was; Golden is still doing fine it looks like, what happened to Sound?
On July 06 2014 01:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: how do you not build spores the first time a roach burrows in your base?
because you have overseers, which he build but his army was kept busy and he didn't split right. Vortix minimap awareness seems to not be the best, atleast most of the time I see him losing to those kind of plays.
That's my point, your overseers are busy, so make the spores. If he wasn't so behind in drones I'd say spore and spine but he didn't have 6 drones he could have committed to
On July 06 2014 01:05 Jer99 wrote: ahh you remember when Golden and Sound were suppose to be the next big koreans? they killed it at MLG or whatever tourney it was; Golden is still doing fine it looks like, what happened to Sound?
On July 06 2014 01:05 Jer99 wrote: ahh you remember when Golden and Sound were suppose to be the next big koreans? they killed it at MLG or whatever tourney it was; Golden is still doing fine it looks like, what happened to Sound?
It was Redbull Training Grounds 1. Sound I think had some personal problems. I think that's what Golden said.
On July 06 2014 01:05 Jer99 wrote: ahh you remember when Golden and Sound were suppose to be the next big koreans? they killed it at MLG or whatever tourney it was; Golden is still doing fine it looks like, what happened to Sound?
On July 06 2014 01:05 Jer99 wrote: ahh you remember when Golden and Sound were suppose to be the next big koreans? they killed it at MLG or whatever tourney it was; Golden is still doing fine it looks like, what happened to Sound?
That was a Redbull training camp, Golden and Sound was B-teamers on Startale and Sound later quit.
On July 06 2014 01:05 Jer99 wrote: ahh you remember when Golden and Sound were suppose to be the next big koreans? they killed it at MLG or whatever tourney it was; Golden is still doing fine it looks like, what happened to Sound?
That was a Redbull training camp, Golden and Sound was B-teamers on Startale and Sound later quit.
I always assumed they invited Golden and Sound assuming that the foreigners could beat them and found it funny when the two of them smashed everyone.
VortiX spawns in the top left Golden spawns in the bottom right
2:00 15 pool for VortiX. Golden going for a hatchery first. VortiX getting a gas and expanding. Spawning pool for Golden.
3:00 Golden making a spore crawler!! TLO! Vortix's overlord turns back. Golden's spore crawler kills the overlord. Zergling speed for Vortix.
4:00 Zerglings scout Vortix's main base, where there is nothing strange. Golden's spore crawler is moving out.
5:00 Zergling speed for Golden. Vortix taking a third base. Vortix sees the spore crawler.
6:00 The spore crawler is being completely ignored by the zerglings moving out. Queen and evolution chamber/roach warren wall for Golden. Golden trying to burrow his spore crawler in the natural of Vortix but nothing happens.
7:00 Zerglings kill the third of Vortix.
8:00 VortiX 76 vs Golden 71 Vortix runs his zerglings into the third of Golden and forces a cancel on the third. Vortix scouts the main of Golden.
9:00 VortiX 88 vs Golden 91 Roaches for both players. Golden getting roach speed faster.
10:00 VortiX 97 vs Golden 108 +2 ranged attacks for both players. +1 carapace just for VortiX. More roaches for both players. Both players going for their third bases with long-distance drones.
VortiX spawns in the top left Golden spawns in the bottom right
2:00 15 pool for VortiX. Golden going for a hatchery first. VortiX getting a gas and expanding. Spawning pool for Golden.
3:00 Golden making a spore crawler!! TLO! Vortix's overlord turns back. Golden's spore crawler kills the overlord. Zergling speed for Vortix.
4:00 Zerglings scout Vortix's main base, where there is nothing strange. Golden's spore crawler is moving out.
5:00 Zergling speed for Golden. Vortix taking a third base. Vortix sees the spore crawler.
6:00 The spore crawler is being completely ignored by the zerglings moving out. Queen and evolution chamber/roach warren wall for Golden. Golden trying to burrow his spore crawler in the natural of Vortix but nothing happens.
7:00 Zerglings kill the third of Vortix.
8:00 VortiX 76 vs Golden 71 Vortix runs his zerglings into the third of Golden and forces a cancel on the third. Vortix scouts the main of Golden.
9:00 VortiX 88 vs Golden 91 Roaches for both players. Golden getting roach speed faster.
10:00 VortiX 97 vs Golden 108 +2 ranged attacks for both players. +1 carapace just for VortiX. More roaches for both players. Both players going for their third bases with long-distance drones.
11:00 VortiX 120 vs Golden 135 Vortix researching burrow for his roaches. Golden moving back to his base with roaches. Vortix scouts a large hidden group of zerglings, which aren't roaches. Roaches moving out for Vortix. Vortix's roaches turn back. Roaches moving out for Golden.
12:00 VortiX 155 vs Golden 161 VortiX's roaches go to his natural. Burrow movement for both players' roaches. Golden killing the backdoor rocks with roaches. Golden moving his zerglings (non-roaches) to the top right corner for a run-by.
13:00 VortiX 193 vs Golden 200 Non-roaches go into Vortix's third base but don't get anything done. Roach engagement! in the central high ground base. Vortix has more roaches! Golden's roaches were better upgraded though. Vortix's roaches overpower Golden's roaches. Vortix's roaches go into Golden's third and Golden runs out of roaches. Golden GG's! VortiX ties it up 1-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
83%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
VortiX spawns in the bottom right Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players go hatchery first. Spawning pool for both players, but Golden gets an extractor.
3:00 Golden getting zergling speed. Vortix moving out with two zerglings.
4:00 Golden denies the scout but messes up and lets a zergling see the zergling speed. Spine crawler and zergling speed for Vortix.
5:00 Evolution chamber for Vortix. Golden taking a third which an overlord sees.
6:00 Baneling nest for Vortix. Golden building a roach warren. Golden denies some creep spread with 2 zerglings. Evolution chamber for Golden. Vortix making some zerglings.
7:00 VortiX 53 vs Golden 60 Vortix moves out with zerglings, which Golden sees. Banelings morphing in for Vortix. Vortix going for the wall with his banelings. Counterattack by Golden.
8:00 VortiX 63 vs Golden 69 Zerglings break in and start killing roaches. Golden tries hold-position drones to protect his roaches. Golden manages to clean up the zerglings from VortiX. Golden is pretty far behind on drones but has a third base.
10:00 VortiX 67 vs Golden 60 Both players getting roaches. Third base for Vortix. Both players getting roach speed. +1 attack for Golden, +1 carapace for Vortix.
VortiX spawns in the bottom right Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players go hatchery first. Spawning pool for both players, but Golden gets an extractor.
3:00 Golden getting zergling speed. Vortix moving out with two zerglings.
4:00 Golden denies the scout but messes up and lets a zergling see the zergling speed. Spine crawler and zergling speed for Vortix.
5:00 Evolution chamber for Vortix. Golden taking a third which an overlord sees.
6:00 Baneling nest for Vortix. Golden building a roach warren. Golden denies some creep spread with 2 zerglings. Evolution chamber for Golden. Vortix making some zerglings.
7:00 VortiX 53 vs Golden 60 Vortix moves out with zerglings, which Golden sees. Banelings morphing in for Vortix. Vortix going for the wall with his banelings. Counterattack by Golden.
8:00 VortiX 63 vs Golden 69 Zerglings break in and start killing roaches. Golden tries hold-position drones to protect his roaches. Golden manages to clean up the zerglings from VortiX. Golden is pretty far behind on drones but has a third base.
10:00 VortiX 67 vs Golden 60 Both players getting roaches. Third base for Vortix. Both players getting roach speed. +1 attack for Golden, +1 carapace for Vortix.
11:00 VortiX 95 vs Golden 102 Golden tries a poke but backs off. +2 missile attack for Vortix. A zergling gets into Vortix's main base.
12:00 VortiX 111 vs Golden 122 Vortix getting tunneling claws and burrow as well as +2 carapace. Burrow for Golden. Overseer for Golden scouting the third. Vortix scouting the roaches with his overseer
13:00 VortiX 140 vs Golden 134 Golden moving out with roaches. Golden uses contaminate on the +2 carapace. Vortix slows down +2 attack. The casters aren't using the word roach so I'll over-use it.
14:00 VortiX 194 vs Golden 188 4 roaches going for the third of Vortix. Golden has more roaches than Vortix in an engagement at his third. Vortix's roaches back up Fourth base for Vortix.
15:00 VortiX 197 vs Golden 200 More roaches get into Vortix's main but roaches are already there. +2 attack finishes for Golden's roaches. A fourth of Golden is cancelled. Roach engagement at Golden's third.
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
Day9 forgot bout Nestea vs Losira and Zenio vs idra and Solar vs Rain?
VortiX spawns in the bottom right Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players go hatchery first. Spawning pool for both players, but Golden gets an extractor.
3:00 Golden getting zergling speed. Vortix moving out with two zerglings.
4:00 Golden denies the scout but messes up and lets a zergling see the zergling speed. Spine crawler and zergling speed for Vortix.
5:00 Evolution chamber for Vortix. Golden taking a third which an overlord sees.
6:00 Baneling nest for Vortix. Golden building a roach warren. Golden denies some creep spread with 2 zerglings. Evolution chamber for Golden. Vortix making some zerglings.
7:00 VortiX 53 vs Golden 60 Vortix moves out with zerglings, which Golden sees. Banelings morphing in for Vortix. Vortix going for the wall with his banelings. Counterattack by Golden.
8:00 VortiX 63 vs Golden 69 Zerglings break in and start killing roaches. Golden tries hold-position drones to protect his roaches. Golden manages to clean up the zerglings from VortiX. Golden is pretty far behind on drones but has a third base.
10:00 VortiX 67 vs Golden 60 Both players getting roaches. Third base for Vortix. Both players getting roach speed. +1 attack for Golden, +1 carapace for Vortix.
11:00 VortiX 95 vs Golden 102 Golden tries a poke but backs off. +2 missile attack for Vortix. A zergling gets into Vortix's main base.
12:00 VortiX 111 vs Golden 122 Vortix getting tunneling claws and burrow as well as +2 carapace. Burrow for Golden. Overseer for Golden scouting the third. Vortix scouting the roaches with his overseer
13:00 VortiX 140 vs Golden 134 Golden moving out with roaches. Golden uses contaminate on the +2 carapace. Vortix slows down +2 attack. The casters aren't using the word roach so I'll over-use it.
14:00 VortiX 194 vs Golden 188 4 roaches going for the third of Vortix. Golden has more roaches than Vortix in an engagement at his third. Vortix's roaches back up Fourth base for Vortix.
15:00 VortiX 197 vs Golden 200 More roaches get into Vortix's main but roaches are already there. +2 attack finishes for Golden's roaches. A fourth of Golden is cancelled. Roach engagement at Golden's third.
17:00 VortiX 197 vs Golden 191 Golden building more roaches. Vortix building more roaches. Golden lost a lot of roaches. Vortix has to back his roaches out. +1 carapace for Golden's roaches. Vortix has +2/2 on his roaches. A roach gets into Vortix's natural. Another roach engagement in Golden's third.
18:00 VortiX 181 vs Golden 163 Golden has a spine crawler but Vortix has much better roaches. Roaches die. Vortix ends up with a lot more roaches than Golden. Golden goes up into the area near the natural. Roaches get to the natural.
19:00 VortiX 140 vs Golden 95 Golden pulls drones and GG's! Vortix takes a 2-1 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
Day9 forgot bout Nestea vs Losira and Zenio vs idra and Solar vs Rain?
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
There was a time, maybe early 2011, when it was used a lot for 2 weeks or so in ZvZ to halt larvae.
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
Day9 forgot bout Nestea vs Losira and Zenio vs idra and Solar vs Rain?
Solar vs Rain was sick. Best use of contaminate I've seen.
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
Day9 forgot bout Nestea vs Losira and Zenio vs idra and Solar vs Rain?
Had Solar vs Rain even happened yet?
On newkirk early on in HotS and PL before Solar was known. Solar went for roach hydra while Rain did a phoenix collosus build.
But Solar had hidden 4 overseers and perma contaminated Rain's robo and killed him with roach hydra.
On July 06 2014 01:18 KelsierSC wrote: all you people who complained about muta vs muta.
this is your fault.
you made your bed, now you have to sleep in it.
I loved muta vs muta. Sure it's a numbers game, but it's so frikkin tense from ling/bane onward. There's no "build up" stage with roach vs roach and also you get those rare games were someone switches tech hoping to land that big fungal (Violet vs Leenock).
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Here's the La Cucaracha lyrics, for all of you singing alone at home: "La cucaracha, la cucaracha, ya no puede caminar, porque no tiene, porque le faltan, las dos patitas de atrás"
Translation: "The cockroach, the cockroach, can't walk any more, 'cause it doesn't have, 'cause it's lacking, the two back legs"
On July 06 2014 01:18 KelsierSC wrote: all you people who complained about muta vs muta.
this is your fault.
you made your bed, now you have to sleep in it.
I loved muta vs muta. Sure it's a numbers game, but it's so frikkin tense from ling/bane onward. There's no "build up" stage with roach vs roach and also you get those rare games were someone switches tech hoping to land that big fungal (Violet vs Leenock).
Totally agree. Muta vs muta is usually a result of a ling/bane knife fight, and those are always fun. Mutas are just more interesting than roaches anyway,
On July 06 2014 01:25 Undercroft wrote: contaminate kekekeke love seeing pros use that spell, especially because i suck at using it so much
It's funny - the first time I saw pros effectively using Contaminate in tournament matches, it was at the WCS 2013 Season 3 Finals in Canada - right after Day9 had attempted a Funday Monday with Mass Contaminate and come to the conclusion that the spell is underpowered and completely useless.
Day9 forgot bout Nestea vs Losira and Zenio vs idra and Solar vs Rain?
Had Solar vs Rain even happened yet?
On newkirk early on in HotS and PL before Solar was known. Solar went for roach hydra while Rain did a phoenix collosus build.
But Solar had hidden 4 overseers and perma contaminated Rain's robo and killed him with roach hydra.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Please vote if you watched the game
I should be seeing 25000 votes.
What if it's all bots? Maybe Starcraft is deader than we thought?
If Vortix wants to win he has to fake a macro game and all-in so hard even duckdeok will be like damn. I'm retired and shit but I can feel someone doing a crazy all-in.
VortiX spawns in the bottom Golden spawns in the top right
1:00 9 pool for Vortix. Hatchery first for Golden.
2:00 Vortix getting a gas. Golden building a spawning pool below his hatchery and an extractor.
3:00 Vortix going after the natural hatchery of Golden while sending 2 zerglings into the main base. Vortix keeping some zerglings in his main base…
4:00 Speed for Vortix is faster than Golden. Baneling nest for Golden. VortiX making just zerglings, keeping them in his main. Very odd…
5:00 Golden sees 30 zerglings coming after him suddenly. Golden morphing 3 banelings.
6:00 Baneling finishes and detonates on about 20 zerglings. Vortix building drones. Golden defends pretty easily with his one baneling, and he still has two left. Ling vs Ling/bane micro outside Golden's natural.
7:00 VortiX 33 vs Golden 37 Vortix building MORE zerglings, still on one base. Golden has expanded.
8:00 VortiX 34 vs Golden 44 Vortix building a baneling nest and expands. Golden going on the offensive.
9:00 VortiX 36 vs Golden 52 Golden cancels the natural of Vortix and kills all of the zerglings with one baneling, again. VortiX GG's. Golden ties up the series 2-2!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
VortiX spawns in the bottom left Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players getting an earlyish spawning pool followed by a hatchery, but Golden gets a gas. Both players scout the other player's expansion. Gas for Vortix.
3:00 Zergling speed for Golden. Queen + drone prevents a scout from Vortix. Golden hiding zerglings. Vortix just gets drones.
4:00 Zergling gets into Golden's main and sees zerglings being hidden. Baneling nest for Vortix. VortiX retreats his drones into his main.
5:00 Golden gets into the main base of Vortix because Vortix tried attacking. VortiX gets enough zerglings out to defend.
VortiX spawns in the bottom left Golden spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players getting an earlyish spawning pool followed by a hatchery, but Golden gets a gas. Both players scout the other player's expansion. Gas for Vortix.
3:00 Zergling speed for Golden. Queen + drone prevents a scout from Vortix. Golden hiding zerglings. Vortix just gets drones.
4:00 Zergling gets into Golden's main and sees zerglings being hidden. Baneling nest for Vortix. VortiX retreats his drones into his main.
5:00 Golden gets into the main base of Vortix because Vortix tried attacking. VortiX gets enough zerglings out to defend.
6:00 Vortix trying a counterattacking. 4 zerglings get into Vortix's main base, followed by 12 more. Vortix has ling/baneling in Golden's main base. Vortix has 1 drone.
8:00 VortiX 7 vs Golden 24 Vortix wastes his banelings. Vortix tries to morph in one more baneling. No hatchery exists for Vortix.
9:00 VortiX 5 vs Golden 13 Golden splits his zerglings against the baneling and Vortix doesn't kill enough of the banelings. VortiX GG's! Golden wins 3-2!
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Golden Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
Well played.
By Golden as well, for that matter. He looked so happy winning there.
On July 06 2014 01:47 Quateras wrote: So 1 more win and Golden gets to play in the Kespa cup with players like soO, Classic, herO and co? wtf europe how can you let that happen?! :O
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
On July 06 2014 01:49 ptbl wrote: Vortix is the false hope of foreigners. You think he would go far, but he always fail at the end. False hope indeed!
By that logic, all foreign hopes are false. They aren't, the problem is they have to play loads of even matches against Koreans to win. Even the best foreigners aren't crazy favored against good Koreans, so they eventually get taken out by one. Same happens to Scarlett, Snute, Naniwa,... It's a hard game, man.
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
Brb $1 large cokes are calling me.
I don't know about you guys but I'm drinking some delicious Water™
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
It's not an uncommon though, but really, what would be the point? I imagine that stuff is so cheap for them to buy. I think they have such huge margins on drinks adding more water to save money would get them nothing.
On July 06 2014 01:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Yeah they do
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
It's not an uncommon though, but really, what would be the point? I imagine that stuff is so cheap for them to buy. I think they have such huge margins on drinks adding more water to save money would get them nothing.
It would make them more money. Do not underestimate the power of greed.
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
It's not an uncommon though, but really, what would be the point? I imagine that stuff is so cheap for them to buy. I think they have such huge margins on drinks adding more water to save money would get them nothing.
Just to note. Golden is okay! He just got a little bit too excited/hyped and the adrenaline got to him a bit. We gave him some chocolate and a sit down and he's great now!
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
It's not an uncommon though, but really, what would be the point? I imagine that stuff is so cheap for them to buy. I think they have such huge margins on drinks adding more water to save money would get them nothing.
On July 06 2014 01:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Yeah they do
Really?
My friend builds those machines. Restaurant have option to add water if they want.
So it's up to the individual restaurant then? Not unsurprising.
On July 06 2014 01:49 ptbl wrote: Vortix is the false hope of foreigners. You think he would go far, but he always fail at the end. False hope indeed!
By that logic, all foreign hopes are false. They aren't, the problem is they have to play loads of even matches against Koreans to win. Even the best foreigners aren't crazy favored against good Koreans, so they eventually get taken out by one. Same happens to Scarlett, Snute, Naniwa,... It's a hard game, man.
Hah. I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm. We tend to hype Vortix to the moon here for our own amusement.
On July 06 2014 01:29 Jer99 wrote: coke product placement GG
I actually wanted a coke after seeing that... advertising works.
I was AFK and came back to reading this after scanning through the last two pages of the thread. Now I want a coke too. Are you perhaps employed by the Coca-Cola company?
No, I just enjoy the refreshing taste of a fresh Coca-Cola so much
I swear Coke at McDonald's is 100 times better than coke in a bottle. I'm a pepsi man otherwise but got to have coke at McDs.
I've never really thought about that but Coke at McDs is fucking delicious
I have always thought that fast food places deluded their stuff with more water
It's not an uncommon though, but really, what would be the point? I imagine that stuff is so cheap for them to buy. I think they have such huge margins on drinks adding more water to save money would get them nothing.
On July 06 2014 01:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Yeah they do
Really?
I noticed that they do outside of mid-america, especially Cali and East side. Also the few places outside like Korea and Mexico I've been to do the same. The sugar content is definitely higher in Michigan and places where they have lots and lots of fast food options.
On July 06 2014 01:57 messioso wrote: Just to note. Golden is okay! He just got a little bit too excited/hyped and the adrenaline got to him a bit. We gave him some chocolate and a sit down and he's great now!
Thanks for the heads up messioso! He looked unwell, happy to hear he's ok.
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
On July 06 2014 01:56 Undercroft wrote: there's only 1 way to truly enjoy coke
1) pour glass of coke 2) drink half of it 3) add milk 4) enjoy nice refreshing beverage
You are speaking about petroleum coke, I presume That would make more sense
coca cola + milk is a good south african drink. we call it a brown cow
tastes sorta like when you add ice cream to coke
Wtf is coke your main ingredient for everything?!? When I was six I mixed coke and ketchup and was severely punished by my parents, who forced me to drink that aberration... who knew someone would actively pursuit this... dunno, I can find a term other than demonology.
On July 06 2014 02:01 LoneYoShi wrote: Just coming in. How have the games been so far ?
been alright. san vs mc showed san doing some very solid play and winning the match as a result
vortix vs golden had vortix winning the overall roach games (with solid upgrades) but vortix lowt to golden in the zergling focused games (some terrible losses to banelings etc)
On July 06 2014 01:56 Undercroft wrote: there's only 1 way to truly enjoy coke
1) pour glass of coke 2) drink half of it 3) add milk 4) enjoy nice refreshing beverage
You are speaking about petroleum coke, I presume That would make more sense
coca cola + milk is a good south african drink. we call it a brown cow
tastes sorta like when you add ice cream to coke
Wtf is coke your main ingredient for everything?!? When I was six I mixed coke and ketchup and was severely punished by my parents, who forced me to drink that aberration... who knew someone would actively pursuit this... dunno, I can find a term other than demonology.
You scare me
So it's a bad idea to mix coke with something because... you have daddy issues? Or what? :D
It's a bad idea to mix eggs with gasoline, does that mean you shouldn't make anything that has eggs as an ingredient?
On July 06 2014 01:56 Undercroft wrote: there's only 1 way to truly enjoy coke
1) pour glass of coke 2) drink half of it 3) add milk 4) enjoy nice refreshing beverage
You are speaking about petroleum coke, I presume That would make more sense
coca cola + milk is a good south african drink. we call it a brown cow
tastes sorta like when you add ice cream to coke
Wtf is coke your main ingredient for everything?!? When I was six I mixed coke and ketchup and was severely punished by my parents, who forced me to drink that aberration... who knew someone would actively pursuit this... dunno, I can find a term other than demonology.
You scare me
So it's a bad idea to mix coke with something because... you have daddy issues? Or what? :D
It's a bad idea to mix eggs with gasoline, does that mean you shouldn't make anything that has eggs as an ingredient?
Completely valid example, you are absolutely right.
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
On July 06 2014 01:56 Undercroft wrote: there's only 1 way to truly enjoy coke
1) pour glass of coke 2) drink half of it 3) add milk 4) enjoy nice refreshing beverage
You are speaking about petroleum coke, I presume That would make more sense
coca cola + milk is a good south african drink. we call it a brown cow
tastes sorta like when you add ice cream to coke
Wtf is coke your main ingredient for everything?!? When I was six I mixed coke and ketchup and was severely punished by my parents, who forced me to drink that aberration... who knew someone would actively pursuit this... dunno, I can find a term other than demonology.
You scare me
i grew up drinking stuff. my grandpa drinks it, my dad drinks it and i drink it XD it sounds bad but it is so so so refreshing on hot summer days. it also tastes nice if you add some baileys in as well (but add it last or the whole thing curdles).
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
Yeah, I do. But I don't freak out over drinks endemic to other cultures, especially when they contain common ingredients that people typically think of as good.
Edit: One other thing. People react like this even when they're from a culture that knows perfectly well what a float is.
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
Yeah, I do. But I don't freak out over drinks endemic to other cultures, especially when they contain common ingredients that people typically think of as good.
Let me list some things, you tell me if any shock you: Coke + natural orange juice Coke + beer Coke + wheat beer Coke + fanta Coke + tomato juice
Some of those I've seen considered absolutely normal in places I've been. The first time you see some of those, you might be shocked. It doesn't mean you won't try them, of course. I'm curious about coke+milk now, for example!
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
Yeah, I do. But I don't freak out over drinks endemic to other cultures, especially when they contain common ingredients that people typically think of as good.
Let me list some things, you tell me if any shock you: Coke + natural orange juice Coke + beer Coke + wheat beer Coke + fanta Coke + tomato juice
Some of those I've seen considered absolutely normal in places I've been. The first time you see some of those, you might be shocked. It doesn't mean you won't try them, of course. I'm curious about coke+milk now, for example!
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
Yeah, I do. But I don't freak out over drinks endemic to other cultures, especially when they contain common ingredients that people typically think of as good.
Let me list some things, you tell me if any shock you: Coke + natural orange juice Coke + beer Coke + wheat beer Coke + fanta Coke + tomato juice
Some of those I've seen considered absolutely normal in places I've been. The first time you see some of those, you might be shocked. It doesn't mean you won't try them, of course. I'm curious about coke+milk now, for example!
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
Yeah, I do. But I don't freak out over drinks endemic to other cultures, especially when they contain common ingredients that people typically think of as good.
Let me list some things, you tell me if any shock you: Coke + natural orange juice Coke + beer Coke + wheat beer Coke + fanta Coke + tomato juice
Some of those I've seen considered absolutely normal in places I've been. The first time you see some of those, you might be shocked. It doesn't mean you won't try them, of course. I'm curious about coke+milk now, for example!
only ones on that list that shock me are the beer ones, but thats more because i hate beer. i'm a cider guy. coke+cherryade is pretty tasty too. tastes like cherry milkshake.
[edit] gogogo ForGG. advance so we can hopefully get some sweet ZvT action later
On July 06 2014 01:58 Ej_ wrote: why why would you mix coke with milk WHY
Why is there always some try-hard who makes a big fuss about this any time it's mentioned? Do you live in a place where nobody has ever heard of a float? Because that's ice cream + root beer or cola. Roughly the same shit.
You do realize there are countries in this world who don't do this, right? I first heard of floats when I went to the US and to this day I've tried it a total of one time, and I just learned that there's a similar thing with milk.
Yeah, I do. But I don't freak out over drinks endemic to other cultures, especially when they contain common ingredients that people typically think of as good.
Let me list some things, you tell me if any shock you: Coke + natural orange juice Coke + beer Coke + wheat beer Coke + fanta Coke + tomato juice
Some of those I've seen considered absolutely normal in places I've been. The first time you see some of those, you might be shocked. It doesn't mean you won't try them, of course. I'm curious about coke+milk now, for example!
I'm pretty sure I've tried the first four, although I'm not sure what kind of beer it was so I can't be actually sure. I think of tomato as being something that works really well when it's sweet and I enjoy tomato soup with various things in it. Although I would be suspicious about whether or not the combination works.
Welmu spawns in the top right ForGG spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Welmu getting a gateway first followed by one assimilator. ForGG opening with a barracks followed by one assimilator. Welmu gets into ForGG's main, which is promptly walled by a depot. Marine for ForGG.
3:00 Second marine on the way. Cybernetics core for Welmu. Welmu cancels a zealot and expands.
4:00 CC for ForGG. Reactor on ForGG's barracks. Factory for ForGG. Welmu building a robotics facility.
5:00 Starport for ForGG. Double hellions on the way. Welmu building another gateway. Marines moving out to meet a stalker.
Welmu spawns in the top right ForGG spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Welmu getting a gateway first followed by one assimilator. ForGG opening with a barracks followed by one assimilator. Welmu gets into ForGG's main, which is promptly walled by a depot. Marine for ForGG.
3:00 Second marine on the way. Cybernetics core for Welmu. Welmu cancels a zealot and expands.
4:00 CC for ForGG. Reactor on ForGG's barracks. Factory for ForGG. Welmu building a robotics facility.
5:00 Starport for ForGG. Double hellions on the way. Welmu building another gateway. Marines moving out to meet a stalker.
6:00 ForGG moving out with 4 hellions while planning a drop in Welmu's main. Welmu moving out of his main base to defend against the hellions. Robotics bay finishing. ForGG running into the natural with hellions. Marines kill the mothership core. 15 workers in the natural of welmu died.
8:00 Welmu 52 vs ForGG 52 ForGG got two more barracks. Tanks and banshees?! Welmu sees the strange composition with his observer, which is picked off.
9:00 Welmu 60 vs ForGG 66 Twilight council on the way for Welmu, who has just two gateways. Extended thermal lance is half done.
10:00 Welmu 73 vs ForGG 79 ForGG moves in and builds 3 bunkers. Viking kills the mothership core which just got out. Marines get into one of the bunkers which is picked off. Another bunker is there. Tank reinforces.
Welmu spawns in the top right ForGG spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Welmu getting a gateway first followed by one assimilator. ForGG opening with a barracks followed by one assimilator. Welmu gets into ForGG's main, which is promptly walled by a depot. Marine for ForGG.
3:00 Second marine on the way. Cybernetics core for Welmu. Welmu cancels a zealot and expands.
4:00 CC for ForGG. Reactor on ForGG's barracks. Factory for ForGG. Welmu building a robotics facility.
5:00 Starport for ForGG. Double hellions on the way. Welmu building another gateway. Marines moving out to meet a stalker.
6:00 ForGG moving out with 4 hellions while planning a drop in Welmu's main. Welmu moving out of his main base to defend against the hellions. Robotics bay finishing. ForGG running into the natural with hellions. Marines kill the mothership core. 15 workers in the natural of welmu died.
8:00 Welmu 52 vs ForGG 52 ForGG got two more barracks. Tanks and banshees?! Welmu sees the strange composition with his observer, which is picked off.
9:00 Welmu 60 vs ForGG 66 Twilight council on the way for Welmu, who has just two gateways. Extended thermal lance is half done.
10:00 Welmu 73 vs ForGG 79 ForGG moves in and builds 3 bunkers. Viking kills the mothership core which just got out. Marines get into one of the bunkers which is picked off. Another bunker is there. Tank reinforces.
11:00 Welmu 51 vs ForGG 76 Welmu getting another colossus out, going up to 2. A few SCVs are pulled to deal with the colossi. There are now two tanks and a cloaked banshee. Another bunker for ForGG.
12:00 Welmu 58 vs ForGG 82 Stim and combat shields on the way. A third tank reinforces. Two banshees nearly pick off a stalker.
13:00 Welmu 54 vs ForGG 88 Welmu trying a proxy pylon. Third CC for ForGG. A zealot and a probe get into the natural of ForGG. Welmu trying to break the contain but loses his units. Welmu GG's! ForGG takes a 1-0 lead!
Welmu is outclassed here. Not sure how he made this far in the tournament judging from his play. Forgg is playing very well and looks like he prepared for welmu to the t.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
6%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 02:26 ptbl wrote: Welmu is outclassed here. Not sure how he made this far in the tournament judging from his play. Forgg is playing very well and looks like he prepared for welmu to the t.
On July 06 2014 02:26 ptbl wrote: Welmu is outclassed here. Not sure how he made this far in the tournament judging from his play. Forgg is playing very well and looks like he prepared for welmu to the t.
On July 06 2014 02:26 ptbl wrote: Welmu is outclassed here. Not sure how he made this far in the tournament judging from his play. Forgg is playing very well and looks like he prepared for welmu to the t.
On July 06 2014 02:26 ptbl wrote: Welmu is outclassed here. Not sure how he made this far in the tournament judging from his play. Forgg is playing very well and looks like he prepared for welmu to the t.
Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
give some room to Terran players pls.
then maybe racelock the region to have a quota of 5 terrans in the top 8?
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
give some room to Terran players pls.
The only logical thing then is to race and region lock EU and NA. Only Terrans and no Koreans.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
They should only do that if they give Koreans more tournaments in Korea to play otherwise there is no way that should happen.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
I'd prefer not, then I'd have to go back to paying for the GSL VODS. I stopped paying them after they switched to Twitch since I wasn't really watching the vods anymore anyway. I only have time to watch one region properly, and I prefer watching live.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
give some room to Terran players pls.
The only logical thing then is to race and region lock EU and NA. Only Terrans and no Koreans.
On July 06 2014 02:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: Baaaah If Welmu doesnt get through WCS EU not worth watching anymore... Plz just region lock EU and NA :/. I think after 3 years ppl knows that koreans are good. Just give some room to new players :/.
give some room to Terran players pls.
WCS NA..... oh wait all korean
Polt only player to wave the Navy Jack. So American.
Welmu spawns in the bottom ForGG spawns in the top right
2:00 CC first followed by a barracks for ForGg. Welmu getting one gas after a gateway.
3:00 Welmu getting a cybernetics core. Welmu expands and gets a mothership core. ForGG getting another barracks. Welmu scouts.
4:00 Robotics facility for Welmu. ForGG scouting the wrong way.
5:00 Third barracks for ForGG. Factory for ForGG. Robotics bay for Welmu.
6:00 ForGG moving out. Concussive shells finish. Welmu loses a stalker in the center of the map.
7:00 Welmu 55 vs ForGG 51 Welmu getting 2 more gateways. Welmu's second stalker makes it back to his natural after being zoned out in the center of the map. Another gateway for Welmu. Second colossus and extended thermal lance for Welmu.
8:00 Welmu 65 vs ForGG 70 ForGG moving out with more bio pressure, after forcing photon overcharge a while ago. Combat shields and stim are 20-30 seconds from finishing. Hallucinated phoenix scouts. ForGG attacks but there are two colossi are there and ForGG loses a lot immediately. Welmu keeps a colossus alive.
10:00 Welmu 87 vs ForGG 77 Welmu moving out. ForGG manages somehow to kill both of Welmu's attacking colossi without losing too much bio. ForGG pulling workers and moving out.
seemed risky chasing after that last colossus with his bio units at such low hp. was on the edge of my seat the whole time until they broke the engagement
Welmu spawns in the bottom ForGG spawns in the top right
2:00 CC first followed by a barracks for ForGg. Welmu getting one gas after a gateway.
3:00 Welmu getting a cybernetics core. Welmu expands and gets a mothership core. ForGG getting another barracks. Welmu scouts.
4:00 Robotics facility for Welmu. ForGG scouting the wrong way.
5:00 Third barracks for ForGG. Factory for ForGG. Robotics bay for Welmu.
6:00 ForGG moving out. Concussive shells finish. Welmu loses a stalker in the center of the map.
7:00 Welmu 55 vs ForGG 51 Welmu getting 2 more gateways. Welmu's second stalker makes it back to his natural after being zoned out in the center of the map. Another gateway for Welmu. Second colossus and extended thermal lance for Welmu.
8:00 Welmu 65 vs ForGG 70 ForGG moving out with more bio pressure, after forcing photon overcharge a while ago. Combat shields and stim are 20-30 seconds from finishing. Hallucinated phoenix scouts. ForGG attacks but there are two colossi are there and ForGG loses a lot immediately. Welmu keeps a colossus alive.
10:00 Welmu 87 vs ForGG 77 Welmu moving out. ForGG manages somehow to kill both of Welmu's attacking colossi without losing too much bio. ForGG pulling workers and moving out.
11:00 Welmu 78 vs ForGG 93 ForGG's SCVs go back to the natural. Twilight council on the way for Welmu. +1 attack finishing for ForGG. More colossi on the way for Welmu.
12:00 Welmu 101 vs ForGG 110 ForGG goes for an attack but Welmu has enough units to defend, losing one colossus. Templar archives and Charge for Welmu.
13:00 Welmu 103 vs ForGG 112 Marauder drop runs into a pylon. Third CC for ForGG.
14:00 Welmu 112 vs ForGG 118 ForGG remaking a factory. Three more barracks for ForGG. Welmu researching storm. Warp prism on the way.
15:00 Welmu 122 vs ForGG 136 ForGG has 4 vikings and is getting 2 more. Warp prism going towards ForGG's main base. Third CC being landed at the forward third. 4 zealots being warped in in ForGG's main.
Welmu spawns in the bottom ForGG spawns in the top right
2:00 CC first followed by a barracks for ForGg. Welmu getting one gas after a gateway.
3:00 Welmu getting a cybernetics core. Welmu expands and gets a mothership core. ForGG getting another barracks. Welmu scouts.
4:00 Robotics facility for Welmu. ForGG scouting the wrong way.
5:00 Third barracks for ForGG. Factory for ForGG. Robotics bay for Welmu.
6:00 ForGG moving out. Concussive shells finish. Welmu loses a stalker in the center of the map.
7:00 Welmu 55 vs ForGG 51 Welmu getting 2 more gateways. Welmu's second stalker makes it back to his natural after being zoned out in the center of the map. Another gateway for Welmu. Second colossus and extended thermal lance for Welmu.
8:00 Welmu 65 vs ForGG 70 ForGG moving out with more bio pressure, after forcing photon overcharge a while ago. Combat shields and stim are 20-30 seconds from finishing. Hallucinated phoenix scouts. ForGG attacks but there are two colossi are there and ForGG loses a lot immediately. Welmu keeps a colossus alive.
10:00 Welmu 87 vs ForGG 77 Welmu moving out. ForGG manages somehow to kill both of Welmu's attacking colossi without losing too much bio. ForGG pulling workers and moving out.
11:00 Welmu 78 vs ForGG 93 ForGG's SCVs go back to the natural. Twilight council on the way for Welmu. +1 attack finishing for ForGG. More colossi on the way for Welmu.
12:00 Welmu 101 vs ForGG 110 ForGG goes for an attack but Welmu has enough units to defend, losing one colossus. Templar archives and Charge for Welmu.
13:00 Welmu 103 vs ForGG 112 Marauder drop runs into a pylon. Third CC for ForGG.
14:00 Welmu 112 vs ForGG 118 ForGG remaking a factory. Three more barracks for ForGG. Welmu researching storm. Warp prism on the way.
15:00 Welmu 122 vs ForGG 136 ForGG has 4 vikings and is getting 2 more. Warp prism going towards ForGG's main base. Third CC being landed at the forward third. 4 zealots being warped in in ForGG's main.
16:00 Welmu 141 vs ForGG 161 ForGG cleans up the zealots in his main. Welmu moving out. Welmu taking a third base. Welmu is scanned but hid the high templars. Two amazing storms on the bio. More storms but ForGG is prepared now and pulls away from the storms. Archons morph and are picked off.
18:00 Welmu 54 vs ForGG 109 +2 attack for ForGG. ForGG moving towards the natural of Welmu. Photon overcharge and storm on some of the marauders.
19:00 Welmu 81 vs ForGG 129 ForGG kills the third. Welmu runs out and tries to storm a bunch of the bio but doesn't have enough units and GG's. ForGG lengthens his lead to 2-0!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Welmu spawns in the top right ForGG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Nexus first versus a barracks first. Welmu getting a gateway followed by two assimilators.
3:00 The two scouting workers pass each other halfway between their bases. Factory for ForGG. Welmu getting a cybernetics core. ForGG building a starport at his natural expansion.
4:00 Welmu hiding a probe. Hellion on the way.
5:00 A hellion is going towards Welmu's main base and sees a chronoboosted gateway. MEdivac half done. Welmu's mothership core is at 75 energy. Armory for ForGG.
Welmu spawns in the top right ForGG spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Nexus first versus a barracks first. Welmu getting a gateway followed by two assimilators.
3:00 The two scouting workers pass each other halfway between their bases. Factory for ForGG. Welmu getting a cybernetics core. ForGG building a starport at his natural expansion.
4:00 Welmu hiding a probe. Hellion on the way.
5:00 A hellion is going towards Welmu's main base and sees a chronoboosted gateway. Medivac half done. Welmu's mothership core is at 75 energy. Armory for ForGG.
6:00 Medivac going for the natural expansion. Hellions going for the main. Immortal for Welmu.
7:00 Welmu 44 vs ForGG 51 ForGG accumulating hellions outside Welmu's main. Welmu's going for a counterattack but sees a medivac and mostly turns around. 3 stalkers in ForGG's main. ForGG going in with 8 hellbats and killing the immortal and a few stlkaer.
8:00 Welmu 25 vs ForGG 40 Welmu pulls probes. Hellbats are pulling Welmu apart completely. Welmu is down to 2 probes.
9:00 Welmu 14 vs ForGG 37 More hellions reinforcing. Welmu trying a counterattack and kills a few hellions.
10:00 Welmu 13 vs ForGG 40 The penultimate probe is killed but Welmu has 80 minerals and a hidden probe. ForGG building bunkers in his main. Welmu gets into ForGG's main but then GG's. ForGG wins 3-0!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 4?
★★★- Good game (4)
40%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
30%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 5?
★★★- Good game (5)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Welmu Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Foreigners finding new and impressive ways to get bopped in the bracket stage against Koreans. Why the fuck would you counter attack when you know you have a massive Eco lead if you hold the push. The 3 stalker warp in at ForGGs base is why he lost this
On July 06 2014 02:54 Wingblade wrote: Foreigners finding new and impressive ways to get bopped in the bracket stage against Koreans. Why the fuck would you counter attack when you know you have a massive Eco lead if you hold the push. The 3 stalker warp in at ForGGs base is why he lost this
He assumed the push would be over and that Forgg was expanding behind it, in which case the counter is likely to finish off the game.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Wingblade wrote: Foreigners finding new and impressive ways to get bopped in the bracket stage against Koreans. Why the fuck would you counter attack when you know you have a massive Eco lead if you hold the push. The 3 stalker warp in at ForGGs base is why he lost this
That's a good point. I guess Welmu was hoping he'd turn back...would have been safer to just fight though
On July 06 2014 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Apollo had the most politically correct response I've ever heard: "Welmu was clearly well prepared, but he prepared for a different player."
On July 06 2014 02:54 Wingblade wrote: Foreigners finding new and impressive ways to get bopped in the bracket stage against Koreans. Why the fuck would you counter attack when you know you have a massive Eco lead if you hold the push. The 3 stalker warp in at ForGGs base is why he lost this
A 3g Stalkers counter-attack is a common attempt at pressuring back after Protoss holds the gas first attack, but here Welmu didn't know that ForGG was not playing the normal expand into 3 rax Medivacs transition.
On July 06 2014 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Apollo had the most politically correct response I've ever heard: "Welmu was clearly well prepared, but he prepared for a different player."
In other words, he wasn't prepared. lol.
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but those were some entertaining games. i'm less enthusiastic about the next matchup. PvP always seems so bland to me compared the the others matches. its like no matter who wins we lose.
On July 06 2014 02:57 BlackCompany wrote: We should send more foreigners to korea since koreans win in eu/na that means eu/na wins in korea Thats how it goes, right?
No. Foreigners get arse f*cked equally around the world.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
The stalkers need to stop to shoot you know?
Unless I'm mistaking, so do hellbats. I don't know the time they take to shoot tho. To be fair, I've got to admit that the stalker shooting animation is pretty long.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
There's a matter of numbers. ForGG had like 6-7 Hellbats with Medivac support, Welmu had only 3 Stalkers and an Immortal; plus he was trapped in his own base. What I don't understand is why he didn't have a second Overcharge at 8'30; I suppose he had delayed his MSC at the beginning.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
There's a matter of numbers. ForGG had like 6-7 Hellbats with Medivac support, Welmu had only 3 Stalkers and an Immortal; plus he was trapped in his own base. What I don't understand is why he didn't have a second Overcharge at 8'30; I suppose he had delayed his MSC at the beginning.
On July 06 2014 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Apollo had the most politically correct response I've ever heard: "Welmu was clearly well prepared, but he prepared for a different player."
In other words, he wasn't prepared. lol.
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but those were some entertaining games. i'm less enthusiastic about the next matchup. PvP always seems so bland to me compared the the others matches. its like no matter who wins we lose.
That may be due to how we've been ''groomed''. For example everyone hypes TvT and shit talks ZvZ and PvP as boring and bland making you think that it truly is bland and boring even if it isnt.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
There's a matter of numbers. ForGG had like 6-7 Hellbats with Medivac support, Welmu had only 3 Stalkers and an Immortal; plus he was trapped in his own base. What I don't understand is why he didn't have a second Overcharge at 8'30; I suppose he had delayed his MSC at the beginning.
On July 06 2014 02:57 BlackCompany wrote: We should send more foreigners to korea since koreans win in eu/na that means eu/na wins in korea Thats how it goes, right?
No. Foreigners get arse f*cked equally around the world.
For someone who is claiming to be sarcastic after recieving a warning for a stupid comment, you are bad at finding it in other peoples posts.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
There's a matter of numbers. ForGG had like 6-7 Hellbats with Medivac support, Welmu had only 3 Stalkers and an Immortal; plus he was trapped in his own base. What I don't understand is why he didn't have a second Overcharge at 8'30; I suppose he had delayed his MSC at the beginning.
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
On July 06 2014 02:57 BlackCompany wrote: We should send more foreigners to korea since koreans win in eu/na that means eu/na wins in korea Thats how it goes, right?
No. Foreigners get arse f*cked equally around the world.
For someone who is claiming to be sarcastic after recieving a warning for a stupid comment, you are bad at finding it in other peoples posts.
You're not allowed to respond seriously to a sarcastic question?
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
I though forgg was living in German with his -german i guess?- girlfriend ?
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
Really ? I knew about the "living in France" part, but the "hot girlfriend" part is more of a surprise. Any additional info ?
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
I though forgg was living in German with his -german i guess?- girlfriend ?
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
The stalkers need to stop to shoot you know?
Marines without stim have the exact same movespeed of hellbat (2.25), more attack speed and 5 range vs 6 for stalker and you can hit and run marines with stalker without taking dammage. So vs a 2 range unit...
Just try 1 stalker vs hellbats on unit test map, you will see it's not hard at all. So for a progamer protoss...
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
Really ? I knew about the "living in France" part, but the "hot girlfriend" part is more of a surprise. Any additional info ?
I don't know personally. When castors were talking about forgg at dreamhack summer before his match with first, they mentioned he had a "very pretty European girlfriend". I just assume frech because he was living in france, I didn't know he returned to the german team house.
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
as a true terran wcs europe really the worst of the 3 by far for me. somehow only koreans i cant relate to at all. stardust first san golden bleeeh
code s stands for high skill, wcs am for exciting games and wcs europe for nothing really in my eyes
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
The stalkers need to stop to shoot you know?
Marines without stim have the exact same movespeed of hellbat (2.25), more attack speed and 5 range vs 6 for stalker and you can hit and run marines with stalker without taking dammage. So vs a 2 range unit...
Just try 1 stalker vs hellbats on unit test map, you will see it's not hard at all. So for a progamer protoss...
But in this case there were so much more hellbats than stalkers. AND hellbats and stalkers started running from same spot. Welmu was not 6 range away. He was 0 range away. Also for 1 stalker it takes ages to kill hellbat
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
Really ? I knew about the "living in France" part, but the "hot girlfriend" part is more of a surprise. Any additional info ?
I don't know personally. When castors were talking about forgg at dreamhack summer before his match with first, they mentioned he had a "very pretty European girlfriend".
Damn. Koreans taking our girls as well as all our prizemoney. Life's hard in EU... ^_^
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
The stalkers need to stop to shoot you know?
Marines without stim have the exact same movespeed of hellbat (2.25), more attack speed and 5 range vs 6 for stalker and you can hit and run marines with stalker without taking dammage. So vs a 2 range unit...
Just try 1 stalker vs hellbats on unit test map, you will see it's not hard at all. So for a progamer protoss...
You take some amount of shield damage when kiting marines though. Eh, whatever.
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
as a true terran wcs europe really the worst of the 3 by far for me. somehow only koreans i cant relate to at all. stardust first san golden bleeeh
code s stands for high skill, wcs am for exciting games and wcs europe for nothing really in my eyes
Forgg is actually my 2nd favorite of the 3. While he's isn't "skilled" as mma or jjakji he's alot more creative, as you can see today. He even mechs vs toss on certain maps.
On July 06 2014 02:54 Varroth wrote: Hurr durr amove hellbats all workers gone such skill
I don't understand how Welmu can loose some stalkers vs hellbats : 6 ranged units with 2.9 movespeed, vs 2 ranged units with 2.2 movespeed...
The stalkers need to stop to shoot you know?
Marines without stim have the exact same movespeed of hellbat (2.25), more attack speed and 5 range vs 6 for stalker and you can hit and run marines with stalker without taking dammage. So vs a 2 range unit...
Just try 1 stalker vs hellbats on unit test map, you will see it's not hard at all. So for a progamer protoss...
You take some amount of shield damage when kiting marines though. Eh, whatever.
Basically Parting would have used 1 stalker to kil 10 hellbats and 8 marines and win the game.
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
Really ? I knew about the "living in France" part, but the "hot girlfriend" part is more of a surprise. Any additional info ?
I don't know personally. When castors were talking about forgg at dreamhack summer before his match with first, they mentioned he had a "very pretty European girlfriend".
Damn. Koreans taking our girls as well as all our prizemoney. Life's hard in EU... ^_^
Didn't he also get a kiss from Seltzer? You could say Forgg is a great player, in more ways than one ^^
On July 06 2014 02:58 Scarx wrote: And for another time each foreigner is eliminated. I'm so excited to see which korean is going to win WCS EUROPE this time!
ForGG is an honorary European. 2 years in France + hot French girlfriend.
Really ? I knew about the "living in France" part, but the "hot girlfriend" part is more of a surprise. Any additional info ?
I don't know personally. When castors were talking about forgg at dreamhack summer before his match with first, they mentioned he had a "very pretty European girlfriend".
Damn. Koreans taking our girls as well as all our prizemoney. Life's hard in EU... ^_^
Didn't he also get a kiss from Seltzer? You could say Forgg is a great player, in more ways than one ^^
Hahaha yeah, apparently the guy has game, in and out of SC2.
On July 06 2014 03:14 SinO[Ob] wrote: @Koreans plz stop ruin the hype in those tournaments. @Blizzard plz region lock! This is useless to watch EU or AM. Noone to cheer for.
Just because you don't see anyone to cheer for doesn't mean everyone feels the same.
On July 06 2014 03:14 SinO[Ob] wrote: @Koreans plz stop ruin the hype in those tournaments. @Blizzard plz region lock! This is useless to watch EU or AM. Noone to cheer for.
Just because you don't see anyone to cheer for doesn't mean everyone feels the same.
I just want to support foreigners :/. Koreans have enough skill to get big results in other tournaments. :x
On July 06 2014 03:14 SinO[Ob] wrote: @Koreans plz stop ruin the hype in those tournaments. @Blizzard plz region lock! This is useless to watch EU or AM. Noone to cheer for.
Speak for yourself.. Welmu and Vortix aren't really hype worthy to me and I see a number of players I like left
On July 06 2014 03:14 SinO[Ob] wrote: @Koreans plz stop ruin the hype in those tournaments. @Blizzard plz region lock! This is useless to watch EU or AM. Noone to cheer for.
Just because you don't see anyone to cheer for doesn't mean everyone feels the same.
I just want to support foreigners :/. Koreans have enough skill to get big results in other tournaments. :x
You don't have to not watch Koreans to support foreigners...
Stardust spawns in the bottom First spawns in the top right
2:00 Stardust getting an 11 gate. First's gateway is at a normal timing. Double gas for Stardust. First is also getting two assimilators. First scouting the wrong way with a probe.
3:00 Cybernetics core for both players, but much faster for Stardust. First getting a stalker and a mothership core. Stardust building two stalkers. First's scouting stalker is denied by a probe.
4:00 First getting a twilight council. Two more gateways for Stardust. Chronoboost on the warp gate research. Stardust's stalker misses the mothership core. First loses a stalker.
5:00 Proxy pylon for Stardust. First getting blink and 2 more gateways. First uses photon overcharge.
On July 06 2014 03:09 boxerfred wrote: tuning off, not fun to watch at all, as 90% of starcraft is for me, nowadays.
Me too. I go watch Jericho. Realy good tv show.
Boooo... I hope it isn't, "I can't watch starcraft without being able to 'relate' to the players". Noah is out in good quality online.
better than game of thrones and walking dead but not good as Vikings
Is Vikings that good? Unless your opinion of game of thrones and walking dead is bad. (which imo game of thrones is insignificant compared to Song of Ice and Fire)
Stardust spawns in the bottom First spawns in the top right
2:00 Stardust getting an 11 gate. First's gateway is at a normal timing. Double gas for Stardust. First is also getting two assimilators. First scouting the wrong way with a probe.
3:00 Cybernetics core for both players, but much faster for Stardust. First getting a stalker and a mothership core. Stardust building two stalkers. First's scouting stalker is denied by a probe.
4:00 First getting a twilight council. Two more gateways for Stardust. Chronoboost on the warp gate research. Stardust's stalker misses the mothership core. First loses a stalker.
5:00 Proxy pylon for Stardust. First getting blink and 2 more gateways. First uses photon overcharge.
6:00 Blink finishes for First but Stardust has more units. First loses a bunch of probe.
7:00 StarDust 42 vs First 23 Stardust continues to focus probes. First's stalkers getting surrounded.
8:00 StarDust 39 vs First 12 First GG's! Stardust takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 03:09 boxerfred wrote: tuning off, not fun to watch at all, as 90% of starcraft is for me, nowadays.
Me too. I go watch Jericho. Realy good tv show.
Boooo... I hope it isn't, "I can't watch starcraft without being able to 'relate' to the players". Noah is out in good quality online.
better than game of thrones and walking dead but not good as Vikings
Is Vikings that good? Unless your opinion of game of thrones and walking dead is bad. (which imo game of thrones is insignificant compared to Song of Ice and Fire)
GoT and Walking Dead are good, awesome series. Walking Dead used to be good, first 2 seasons but seasons 3 - 4 I would rate 3,5/10. When I think now. I think Vikings and GoT are pretty equal
On July 06 2014 03:09 boxerfred wrote: tuning off, not fun to watch at all, as 90% of starcraft is for me, nowadays.
Me too. I go watch Jericho. Realy good tv show.
Boooo... I hope it isn't, "I can't watch starcraft without being able to 'relate' to the players". Noah is out in good quality online.
better than game of thrones and walking dead but not good as Vikings
Is Vikings that good? Unless your opinion of game of thrones and walking dead is bad. (which imo game of thrones is insignificant compared to Song of Ice and Fire)
GoT and Walking Dead are good, awesome series. Walking Dead used to be good, first 2 seasons but seasons 3 - 4 I would rate 3,5/10. When I think now. I think Vikings and GoT are pretty equal
II was always sad no one in the walking dead realized they were immortal in Hyundais.
On July 06 2014 03:09 boxerfred wrote: tuning off, not fun to watch at all, as 90% of starcraft is for me, nowadays.
Me too. I go watch Jericho. Realy good tv show.
Boooo... I hope it isn't, "I can't watch starcraft without being able to 'relate' to the players". Noah is out in good quality online.
better than game of thrones and walking dead but not good as Vikings
Is Vikings that good? Unless your opinion of game of thrones and walking dead is bad. (which imo game of thrones is insignificant compared to Song of Ice and Fire)
GoT and Walking Dead are good, awesome series. Walking Dead used to be good, first 2 seasons but seasons 3 - 4 I would rate 3,5/10. When I think now. I think Vikings and GoT are pretty equal
Stardust spawns in the top right First spawns in the bottom left
2:00 11 gateway for Stardust. First getting a normally timed gateway again. Both players getting two assimilators. Cybernetics core for Stardust.
3:00 Cybernetics core for First. First scouting for Stardust and vice versa. First is hiding a twilight council.
4:00 Stardust's scout is picked off, only seeing a gateway and two gasses. Stardust nearly finds a hiding probe from First. Dark Shrine for first.
5:00 Stardust getting to First's main base. Robotics facility for First, no extra gateways until now.
6:00 StarDust 39 vs First 30 A DT gets into Stardust's main base and starts killing probe. Robotics facility near First's base for Stardust. All of First's probes die.
7:00 StarDust 26 vs First 5 First is looking for the robotics facility. First barely misses. Stardust retreats. Observer finishes as First nearly kills a pylon.
8:00 First GG's! Stardust lengthens his lead to 2-0!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
Stardust spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
2:00 11 gate for Stardust again. First's gateway is normal. Double gas for both players.
3:00 First is mining gas at full capabilities, 3 in each geyser. Cybernetics core for both players. Second gateway for First. Stardust chronoboosting a stalker out but the probe from First gets in.
4:00 Mothership core for First. First building a stargate. Stardust's scout is denied. Two more gateways for Stardust.
5:00 Robotics facility for Stardust. Oracle on the way for First. Stardust's stalker is chased away. Stardust expanding. Sentry for Stardust. Robotics facility for First.
On July 06 2014 03:32 kaykoose wrote: PvP..... Even though the games are kinda funny I just can't get excited for it
4 Terrans in WCS NA later (and only 2 P), u excited!?
Can't wait. And not just because of the 4 terrans either, though it's very helpful. I love everyone there. Maybe not so much Pigbaby but only because he's new to me
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
It depends on which forgg shows up
Good ForGG is worth watching because he's a good Terran player
Bad ForGG is worth watching because he's sooooooooooo bad
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
Its always worth tuning in to see ForGG lose.
Are you upset because he is doing so much better than Jjakji in EU?
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
It depends on which forgg shows up
Good ForGG is worth watching because he's a good Terran player
Bad ForGG is worth watching because he's sooooooooooo bad
Bad ForGG is the Michael Bay of death animations. So flashy.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
Its always worth tuning in to see ForGG lose.
Are you upset because he is doing so much better than Jjakji in EU?
Stardust spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
2:00 11 gate for Stardust again. First's gateway is normal. Double gas for both players.
3:00 First is mining gas at full capabilities, 3 in each geyser. Cybernetics core for both players. Second gateway for First. Stardust chronoboosting a stalker out but the probe from First gets in.
4:00 Mothership core for First. First building a stargate. Stardust's scout is denied. Two more gateways for Stardust.
5:00 Robotics facility for Stardust. Oracle on the way for First. Stardust's stalker is chased away. Stardust expanding. Sentry for Stardust. Robotics facility for First.
6:00 First gets into the main of Stardust and kills 2 sentries. First expanding.
7:00 StarDust 37 vs First 41 Forge for First. First pressuring the nexus of Stardust. Stardust pushing the army of First pretty far. Stardust warped in his sentries again.
8:00 StarDust 57 vs First 52 First's observer is chasing Stardust's observer. +1 attack for both players. Startdust getting a twilight council. First gets a few more kills with his oracle. Colossus tech for First.
9:00 StarDust 68 vs First 68 First's oracle tries to get into Stardust's main but fails. Stardust sees a warp prism with an observer.
10:00 StarDust 78 vs First 76 Templar archives for Stardust. Two immortal drop for First picks off a few probes.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
Its always worth tuning in to see ForGG lose.
Are you upset because he is doing so much better than Jjakji in EU?
Maybe.....
You know we used to call Jjakji the neo-ForGG because he went to EU is just did meh but now that might be unfair to ForGG
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
To be honest, if you watched 10,000 ForGG games you have watched all of ForGG's games. (which I might have during my unemployment)
On July 06 2014 03:42 mikumegurine wrote: ForGG is pimp, gota multiple ladies in different countries all over the world, got female entourage, kisses from female event hosts
and going to win WCS EU and kiss trophy like a BoSS
The best ForGG could hope for is to get 2nd when he gets 4-0'd by San.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
Its always worth tuning in to see ForGG lose.
Are you upset because he is doing so much better than Jjakji in EU?
Maybe.....
You know we used to call Jjakji the neo-ForGG because he went to EU is just did meh but now that might be unfair to ForGG
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Don't you just hate it when the best people win? They should clearly be losing, since they are not from Europe (or America).
Yeah it sucks, we should tie Koreans hands behind their backs when they play so that foreigners have their fair chance.
Most Koreans could probably still win by face rolling on the keyboard.
If they applied their normal practice regimen to doing that they probably would win
I feel like this same string of posts have repeated 1 million times in LR threads...
and it will keep being repeated as long as people complain about the better players winning.
I love how people really think that some of us are mad cause BEST player wins. If we are mad its cause we have the saaaaaame shit over and over. Koreans are good, winning everything... Cant we have a MAJOR tournament where we can support and help the foreign scene grow?
Nop, starcraft is all about koreans and if youre not happy with that, you are just a dumbass racist/mad guy wiht no brain.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
Its always worth tuning in to see ForGG lose.
Are you upset because he is doing so much better than Jjakji in EU?
Maybe.....
You know we used to call Jjakji the neo-ForGG because he went to EU is just did meh but now that might be unfair to ForGG
Come on now. That's just mean. I never made fun of aLive! Or at least, not much.
Stardust spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
2:00 11 gate for Stardust again. First's gateway is normal. Double gas for both players.
3:00 First is mining gas at full capabilities, 3 in each geyser. Cybernetics core for both players. Second gateway for First. Stardust chronoboosting a stalker out but the probe from First gets in.
4:00 Mothership core for First. First building a stargate. Stardust's scout is denied. Two more gateways for Stardust.
5:00 Robotics facility for Stardust. Oracle on the way for First. Stardust's stalker is chased away. Stardust expanding. Sentry for Stardust. Robotics facility for First.
6:00 First gets into the main of Stardust and kills 2 sentries. First expanding.
7:00 StarDust 37 vs First 41 Forge for First. First pressuring the nexus of Stardust. Stardust pushing the army of First pretty far. Stardust warped in his sentries again.
8:00 StarDust 57 vs First 52 First's observer is chasing Stardust's observer. +1 attack for both players. Startdust getting a twilight council. First gets a few more kills with his oracle. Colossus tech for First.
9:00 StarDust 68 vs First 68 First's oracle tries to get into Stardust's main but fails. Stardust sees a warp prism with an observer.
10:00 StarDust 78 vs First 76 Templar archives for Stardust. Two immortal drop for First picks off a few probes.
11:00 StarDust 84 vs First 82 +2 attack for both players as well as charge. Extended thermal lance finishing for First. Stardust adding on two more gateways.
12:00 StarDust 98 vs First 93 Feedback on the oracle of First. Both players staying on two bases.
13:00 StarDust 106 vs First 99 Templar archives for First. Stardust adding on 3 more gateways. First moving a probe to his third base. 4 zealot drop for First.
14:00 StarDust 124 vs First 125 The warp prism is killed. Third base for both players.
15:00 StarDust 126 vs First 127 Robotics bay for Stardust. Oracle scouts the third base of Stardust. Both players moving out.
Stardust spawns in the top left First spawns in the bottom right
2:00 11 gate for Stardust again. First's gateway is normal. Double gas for both players.
3:00 First is mining gas at full capabilities, 3 in each geyser. Cybernetics core for both players. Second gateway for First. Stardust chronoboosting a stalker out but the probe from First gets in.
4:00 Mothership core for First. First building a stargate. Stardust's scout is denied. Two more gateways for Stardust.
5:00 Robotics facility for Stardust. Oracle on the way for First. Stardust's stalker is chased away. Stardust expanding. Sentry for Stardust. Robotics facility for First.
6:00 First gets into the main of Stardust and kills 2 sentries. First expanding.
7:00 StarDust 37 vs First 41 Forge for First. First pressuring the nexus of Stardust. Stardust pushing the army of First pretty far. Stardust warped in his sentries again.
8:00 StarDust 57 vs First 52 First's observer is chasing Stardust's observer. +1 attack for both players. Startdust getting a twilight council. First gets a few more kills with his oracle. Colossus tech for First.
9:00 StarDust 68 vs First 68 First's oracle tries to get into Stardust's main but fails. Stardust sees a warp prism with an observer.
10:00 StarDust 78 vs First 76 Templar archives for Stardust. Two immortal drop for First picks off a few probes.
11:00 StarDust 84 vs First 82 +2 attack for both players as well as charge. Extended thermal lance finishing for First. Stardust adding on two more gateways.
12:00 StarDust 98 vs First 93 Feedback on the oracle of First. Both players staying on two bases.
13:00 StarDust 106 vs First 99 Templar archives for First. Stardust adding on 3 more gateways. First moving a probe to his third base. 4 zealot drop for First.
14:00 StarDust 124 vs First 125 The warp prism is killed. Third base for both players.
15:00 StarDust 126 vs First 127 Robotics bay for Stardust. Oracle scouts the third base of Stardust. Both players moving out.
16:00 StarDust 132 vs First 151 Stardust gets caught out of position and recalls, but loses a ton of immortals at the last second. Huge warpin in First's natural but Stardust GGs. First takes it back to 1-2!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Don't you just hate it when the best people win? They should clearly be losing, since they are not from Europe (or America).
Yeah it sucks, we should tie Koreans hands behind their backs when they play so that foreigners have their fair chance.
Most Koreans could probably still win by face rolling on the keyboard.
If they applied their normal practice regimen to doing that they probably would win
I feel like this same string of posts have repeated 1 million times in LR threads...
and it will keep being repeated as long as people complain about the better players winning.
I love how people really think that some of us are mad cause BEST player wins. If we are mad its cause we have the saaaaaame shit over and over. Koreans are good, winning everything... Cant we have a MAJOR tournament where we can support and help the foreign scene grow?
Nop, starcraft is all about koreans and if youre not happy with that, you are just a dumbass racist/mad guy wiht no brain.
There have been tournaments that have attempted to help the NA scene (Shoutcraft AM, this past MLG had most all pool spots open to non-Koreans only) and they have failed for a variety of reasons (viewership issues, player controversies, the foreigners getting rekt by even a low number of Koreans)
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Don't you just hate it when the best people win? They should clearly be losing, since they are not from Europe (or America).
Yeah it sucks, we should tie Koreans hands behind their backs when they play so that foreigners have their fair chance.
Most Koreans could probably still win by face rolling on the keyboard.
If they applied their normal practice regimen to doing that they probably would win
I feel like this same string of posts have repeated 1 million times in LR threads...
and it will keep being repeated as long as people complain about the better players winning.
I love how people really think that some of us are mad cause BEST player wins. If we are mad its cause we have the saaaaaame shit over and over. Koreans are good, winning everything... Cant we have a MAJOR tournament where we can support and help the foreign scene grow?
Nop, starcraft is all about koreans and if youre not happy with that, you are just a dumbass racist/mad guy wiht no brain.
The most ironic post, given TB's repeated attempts at helping the foreign scene on many occasions.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Not really the reason. Main reason that most of best strategies are very frustating/boring/disgusting to watch. Definitely Blizzard's mistake. Only Vortix and Golden are worth to watch for me by that top8.
I really wish WCS NA begins right now.
Personally not much of a fan of roaches vs roaches, but to each their own.
I said Vortix and Golden, not Vortix vs Golden.
Wait ForGG isn't worth watching? TT
Its always worth tuning in to see ForGG lose.
Are you upset because he is doing so much better than Jjakji in EU?
Maybe.....
You know we used to call Jjakji the neo-ForGG because he went to EU is just did meh but now that might be unfair to ForGG
Come on now. That's just mean. I never made fun of aLive! Or at least, not much.
Literally everything I say is retaliation for, "Who?"
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Don't you just hate it when the best people win? They should clearly be losing, since they are not from Europe (or America).
Yeah it sucks, we should tie Koreans hands behind their backs when they play so that foreigners have their fair chance.
Most Koreans could probably still win by face rolling on the keyboard.
If they applied their normal practice regimen to doing that they probably would win
I feel like this same string of posts have repeated 1 million times in LR threads...
and it will keep being repeated as long as people complain about the better players winning.
I love how people really think that some of us are mad cause BEST player wins. If we are mad its cause we have the saaaaaame shit over and over. Koreans are good, winning everything... Cant we have a MAJOR tournament where we can support and help the foreign scene grow?
Nop, starcraft is all about koreans and if youre not happy with that, you are just a dumbass racist/mad guy wiht no brain.
Not this again... Lets not turn this LR into a 10000 page shit show for the 100000th time.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Quite many people want to see local players.
Maybe the local players should play better then. This is not some local tournament, it's the world championship series, you don't get far in that without being the best, which they clearly are not.
Stardust spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
1:00 First's pylon is much slower than Stardust's. Normally timed gateway for both players.
2:00 Two gasses for both players. Both players get a cybernetics core.
3:00 Mothership core for First. Both players getting a stalker and warp gate research.
4:00 Stargate for Stardust, Twilight council for first. Sentry on the way for Stardust. First adding on two more gateways. First denies a scout from Stardust.
5:00 First has to recall his mothership core due to a phoenix, but sees the stargate. Robotics facility for Stardust.
On July 06 2014 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Stop fighting everyone. Just support the foreigners when they play and whichever Korean you like better when there's no white people involved.
How about cheering for whatever player you like the best, no matter what country they happen to come from? That's how I usually do it.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Quite many people want to see local players.
Maybe the local players should play better then. This is not some local tournament, it's the world championship series, you don't get far in that without being the best, which they clearly are not.
While I agree with your overall point (local players should play better) the WCS system isn't the best example. Its ridiculously flawed for showing local talent in each region. Europe significantly less so, as I believe 29 or 30 of the premier league players actually live in Europe.
On July 06 2014 03:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Stop fighting everyone. Just support the foreigners when they play and whichever Korean you like better when there's no white people involved.
How about cheering for whatever player you like the best, no matter what country they happen to come from? That's how I usually do it.
you can do that too. I like a lot of the koreans more than the foreigners too. I'm just saying you can like both
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Quite many people want to see local players.
Maybe the local players should play better then. This is not some local tournament, it's the world championship series, you don't get far in that without being the best, which they clearly are not.
So we have to change the name of the tournament. Why call it EU or NA or KR? We call it WCS and not talking about regions who means nothing :/.
I really thought WCS was the shop window of every regions... My bad.
Stardust spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
1:00 First's pylon is much slower than Stardust's. Normally timed gateway for both players.
2:00 Two gasses for both players. Both players get a cybernetics core.
3:00 Mothership core for First. Both players getting a stalker and warp gate research.
4:00 Stargate for Stardust, Twilight council for first. Sentry on the way for Stardust. First adding on two more gateways. First denies a scout from Stardust.
5:00 First has to recall his mothership core due to a phoenix, but sees the stargate. Robotics facility for Stardust.
6:00 Stardust expanding. First builds and cancels a pylon at Stardust's natural.
7:00 StarDust 42 vs First 37 Oracle for Stardust finishes. Stardust cancels his natural expansion. Stardust trades some of his workers at home for workers due to the oracle.
8:00 StarDust 53 vs First 41 Stardust has two immortals out. First moving back into Stardust's main and killing a few more probes.
9:00 StarDust 56 vs First 44 First is down 4 workers. Stardust kills the proxy pylon.
10:00 StarDust 58 vs First 49 Oracle and phoenix are coming back. First expands. First blinks into the main base. Stardust still hasn't expanded. Oracle and phoenix go back to the main of First. First cancelled his nexus.
Stardust spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
1:00 First's pylon is much slower than Stardust's. Normally timed gateway for both players.
2:00 Two gasses for both players. Both players get a cybernetics core.
3:00 Mothership core for First. Both players getting a stalker and warp gate research.
4:00 Stargate for Stardust, Twilight council for first. Sentry on the way for Stardust. First adding on two more gateways. First denies a scout from Stardust.
5:00 First has to recall his mothership core due to a phoenix, but sees the stargate. Robotics facility for Stardust.
6:00 Stardust expanding. First builds and cancels a pylon at Stardust's natural.
7:00 StarDust 42 vs First 37 Oracle for Stardust finishes. Stardust cancels his natural expansion. Stardust trades some of his workers at home for workers due to the oracle.
8:00 StarDust 53 vs First 41 Stardust has two immortals out. First moving back into Stardust's main and killing a few more probes.
9:00 StarDust 56 vs First 44 First is down 4 workers. Stardust kills the proxy pylon.
10:00 StarDust 58 vs First 49 Oracle and phoenix are coming back. First expands. First blinks into the main base. Stardust still hasn't expanded. Oracle and phoenix go back to the main of First. First cancelled his nexus.
12:00 StarDust 81 vs First 57 Dark shrine on the way for First, as well as an observer. First started two pylons near Stardust's base but both of them were seen. First expanding. First trying to pick off individual units before blinking back. First loses a few stalkers. Stardust expands.
13:00 StarDust 90 vs First 65 Stardust sniped the observer but First is starting another one. First's DT was blocked.
14:00 StarDust 99 vs First 77 Robotics bay for First. Stardust getting a warp prism.
15:00 StarDust 105 vs First 87 Stalkers are nearly surrounded by Stardust's army. Stardust gets 2 immortals FF'd out but he has a warp prism.
Can we drop the "white guy" crap from this? Again, the whole premise of "foreigner = white" is simply factually innacurate, as you can see from NA pros Suppy, Illusion, Masa, Hendralisk, Catz, and that's just off the top of my head. We wouldn't be so ready to adopt Polt and Violet as North American if it was about race.
On July 06 2014 03:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: ITT: "We'd rather support the people who are whitest rather than the people who worked the hardest"
Don't you just hate it when the best people win? They should clearly be losing, since they are not from Europe (or America).
Yeah it sucks, we should tie Koreans hands behind their backs when they play so that foreigners have their fair chance.
Most Koreans could probably still win by face rolling on the keyboard.
If they applied their normal practice regimen to doing that they probably would win
I feel like this same string of posts have repeated 1 million times in LR threads...
and it will keep being repeated as long as people complain about the better players winning.
I love how people really think that some of us are mad cause BEST player wins. If we are mad its cause we have the saaaaaame shit over and over. Koreans are good, winning everything... Cant we have a MAJOR tournament where we can support and help the foreign scene grow?
Nop, starcraft is all about koreans and if youre not happy with that, you are just a dumbass racist/mad guy wiht no brain.
The most ironic post, given TB's repeated attempts at helping the foreign scene on many occasions.
This was the first time in ages, that I#ve sit here laughing loudly in what happened in a game. Killing that robo into attacking the gateway into 2 colossus killing the robo was hilarious.
Stardust spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
1:00 First's pylon is much slower than Stardust's. Normally timed gateway for both players.
2:00 Two gasses for both players. Both players get a cybernetics core.
3:00 Mothership core for First. Both players getting a stalker and warp gate research.
4:00 Stargate for Stardust, Twilight council for first. Sentry on the way for Stardust. First adding on two more gateways. First denies a scout from Stardust.
5:00 First has to recall his mothership core due to a phoenix, but sees the stargate. Robotics facility for Stardust.
6:00 Stardust expanding. First builds and cancels a pylon at Stardust's natural.
7:00 StarDust 42 vs First 37 Oracle for Stardust finishes. Stardust cancels his natural expansion. Stardust trades some of his workers at home for workers due to the oracle.
8:00 StarDust 53 vs First 41 Stardust has two immortals out. First moving back into Stardust's main and killing a few more probes.
9:00 StarDust 56 vs First 44 First is down 4 workers. Stardust kills the proxy pylon.
10:00 StarDust 58 vs First 49 Oracle and phoenix are coming back. First expands. First blinks into the main base. Stardust still hasn't expanded. Oracle and phoenix go back to the main of First. First cancelled his nexus.
12:00 StarDust 81 vs First 57 Dark shrine on the way for First, as well as an observer. First started two pylons near Stardust's base but both of them were seen. First expanding. First trying to pick off individual units before blinking back. First loses a few stalkers. Stardust expands.
13:00 StarDust 90 vs First 65 Stardust sniped the observer but First is starting another one. First's DT was blocked.
14:00 StarDust 99 vs First 77 Robotics bay for First. Stardust getting a warp prism.
15:00 StarDust 105 vs First 87 Stalkers are nearly surrounded by Stardust's army. Stardust gets 2 immortals FF'd out but he has a warp prism.
17:00 StarDust 108 vs First 94 First pulls probes but loses his natural nexus. First killing his own robotics facility with a trapped colossus.
18:00 StarDust 109 vs First 97 First is harassing a gateway with four stalkers. First gets two colossi to kill the robotics facility. Templar archives finishes for Stardust.
19:00 StarDust 129 vs First 102 First tries to kill a few archons with his blink stalkers but loses a few stalkers.
20:00 StarDust 106 vs First 130 Extended thermal lance for Stardust is finishing. First rebuilt his natural a while ago. First picks off a sentry but gets his stalkers surrounded . First gets all of his stalkers picked off.
Stardust spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
1:00 First's pylon is much slower than Stardust's. Normally timed gateway for both players.
2:00 Two gasses for both players. Both players get a cybernetics core.
3:00 Mothership core for First. Both players getting a stalker and warp gate research.
4:00 Stargate for Stardust, Twilight council for first. Sentry on the way for Stardust. First adding on two more gateways. First denies a scout from Stardust.
5:00 First has to recall his mothership core due to a phoenix, but sees the stargate. Robotics facility for Stardust.
6:00 Stardust expanding. First builds and cancels a pylon at Stardust's natural.
7:00 StarDust 42 vs First 37 Oracle for Stardust finishes. Stardust cancels his natural expansion. Stardust trades some of his workers at home for workers due to the oracle.
8:00 StarDust 53 vs First 41 Stardust has two immortals out. First moving back into Stardust's main and killing a few more probes.
9:00 StarDust 56 vs First 44 First is down 4 workers. Stardust kills the proxy pylon.
10:00 StarDust 58 vs First 49 Oracle and phoenix are coming back. First expands. First blinks into the main base. Stardust still hasn't expanded. Oracle and phoenix go back to the main of First. First cancelled his nexus.
12:00 StarDust 81 vs First 57 Dark shrine on the way for First, as well as an observer. First started two pylons near Stardust's base but both of them were seen. First expanding. First trying to pick off individual units before blinking back. First loses a few stalkers. Stardust expands.
13:00 StarDust 90 vs First 65 Stardust sniped the observer but First is starting another one. First's DT was blocked.
14:00 StarDust 99 vs First 77 Robotics bay for First. Stardust getting a warp prism.
15:00 StarDust 105 vs First 87 Stalkers are nearly surrounded by Stardust's army. Stardust gets 2 immortals FF'd out but he has a warp prism.
17:00 StarDust 108 vs First 94 First pulls probes but loses his natural nexus. First killing his own robotics facility with a trapped colossus.
18:00 StarDust 109 vs First 97 First is harassing a gateway with four stalkers. First gets two colossi to kill the robotics facility. Templar archives finishes for Stardust.
19:00 StarDust 129 vs First 102 First tries to kill a few archons with his blink stalkers but loses a few stalkers.
20:00 StarDust 106 vs First 130 Extended thermal lance for Stardust is finishing. First rebuilt his natural a while ago. First picks off a sentry but gets his stalkers surrounded . First gets all of his stalkers picked off.
22:00 StarDust 156 vs First 121 Stardust finishing charge and getting +3 attack. Stardust has a third base now. First taking his third base. +2 attack starting for First.
23:00 StarDust 166 vs First 131 First proxying pylons. Stardust moving out, sending a zealot to find the proxy pylon.
24:00 StarDust 187 vs First 139 Another robotics facility for Stardust, who has retreated. First has 6 colossi and is mining from his third base.
25:00 StarDust 187 vs First 155 Stardust walls his third base against harassment. Stardust moving out.
Stardust spawns in the bottom right First spawns in the top left
1:00 First's pylon is much slower than Stardust's. Normally timed gateway for both players.
2:00 Two gasses for both players. Both players get a cybernetics core.
3:00 Mothership core for First. Both players getting a stalker and warp gate research.
4:00 Stargate for Stardust, Twilight council for first. Sentry on the way for Stardust. First adding on two more gateways. First denies a scout from Stardust.
5:00 First has to recall his mothership core due to a phoenix, but sees the stargate. Robotics facility for Stardust.
6:00 Stardust expanding. First builds and cancels a pylon at Stardust's natural.
7:00 StarDust 42 vs First 37 Oracle for Stardust finishes. Stardust cancels his natural expansion. Stardust trades some of his workers at home for workers due to the oracle.
8:00 StarDust 53 vs First 41 Stardust has two immortals out. First moving back into Stardust's main and killing a few more probes.
9:00 StarDust 56 vs First 44 First is down 4 workers. Stardust kills the proxy pylon.
10:00 StarDust 58 vs First 49 Oracle and phoenix are coming back. First expands. First blinks into the main base. Stardust still hasn't expanded. Oracle and phoenix go back to the main of First. First cancelled his nexus.
12:00 StarDust 81 vs First 57 Dark shrine on the way for First, as well as an observer. First started two pylons near Stardust's base but both of them were seen. First expanding. First trying to pick off individual units before blinking back. First loses a few stalkers. Stardust expands.
13:00 StarDust 90 vs First 65 Stardust sniped the observer but First is starting another one. First's DT was blocked.
14:00 StarDust 99 vs First 77 Robotics bay for First. Stardust getting a warp prism.
15:00 StarDust 105 vs First 87 Stalkers are nearly surrounded by Stardust's army. Stardust gets 2 immortals FF'd out but he has a warp prism.
17:00 StarDust 108 vs First 94 First pulls probes but loses his natural nexus. First killing his own robotics facility with a trapped colossus.
18:00 StarDust 109 vs First 97 First is harassing a gateway with four stalkers. First gets two colossi to kill the robotics facility. Templar archives finishes for Stardust.
19:00 StarDust 129 vs First 102 First tries to kill a few archons with his blink stalkers but loses a few stalkers.
20:00 StarDust 106 vs First 130 Extended thermal lance for Stardust is finishing. First rebuilt his natural a while ago. First picks off a sentry but gets his stalkers surrounded . First gets all of his stalkers picked off.
22:00 StarDust 156 vs First 121 Stardust finishing charge and getting +3 attack. Stardust has a third base now. First taking his third base. +2 attack starting for First.
23:00 StarDust 166 vs First 131 First proxying pylons. Stardust moving out, sending a zealot to find the proxy pylon.
24:00 StarDust 187 vs First 139 Another robotics facility for Stardust, who has retreated. First has 6 colossi and is mining from his third base.
25:00 StarDust 187 vs First 155 Stardust walls his third base against harassment. Stardust moving out.
26:00 StarDust 199 vs First 171 Stardust declines to attack into a concave and goes for a third base.
27:00 StarDust 191 vs First 162 Huge concave for Stardust. Laser wars! First GG's. Stardust wins 3-1.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
29%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 5?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
50%
★★★- Good game (2)
33%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stardust vs First Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Again, the whole premise of "foreigner = white" is simply factually innacurate, as you can see from NA pros Suppy, Illusion, Masa, Hendralisk, Catz,
Let me rephrase.
Relevant WCS-class foreigners.
All of those except Catz were in Premier this season.
"were"
I guess the RO32 counts yes.
"I guess" lol
Premier is premier.
arguing with tb doesn't lead you anywhere
In an LR thread, at least. He's rarely, if ever, serious in an LR, and he'll gladly drag things out for the fun of it. Outside of LR, he'll have a proper talk when he feels it's warranted, and he'll usually be right.
Again, the whole premise of "foreigner = white" is simply factually innacurate, as you can see from NA pros Suppy, Illusion, Masa, Hendralisk, Catz,
Let me rephrase.
Relevant WCS-class foreigners.
All of those except Catz were in Premier this season.
Get away from here with your facts.
Here's some more facts.
Every one of those players was eliminated in the RO32.
Between them, those players have a combined mapscore of 7 wins and 17 losses, taking only 2 series total between them, both of which were against foreigners.
Turns out facts are pretty good, I agree.
I'd call someone a WCS class player when they have the ability to reach the RO16. Winning 1 BO5 in a potluck series to reach the Premier league does not make you a WCS class player, winning in WCS Premier league and at least going one round into the tournament does.
I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
On July 06 2014 04:10 Circumstance wrote: I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
Id love if Golden won but theres 0 chance it happens
On July 06 2014 04:10 Circumstance wrote: I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
Id love if Golden won but theres 0 chance it happens
On July 06 2014 04:10 Circumstance wrote: I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
Id love if Golden won but theres 0 chance it happens
Famous last words.
He's just trying to jinx San because he's a Golden fan
On July 06 2014 04:10 Circumstance wrote: I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
Id love if Golden won but theres 0 chance it happens
Famous last words.
He's just trying to jinx San because he's a Golden fan
Not even Artosis is enough to knock San out this time.
On July 06 2014 04:10 Circumstance wrote: I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
Id love if Golden won but theres 0 chance it happens
Famous last words.
He's just trying to jinx San because he's a Golden fan
Not even Artosis is enough to knock San out this time.
On July 06 2014 04:10 Circumstance wrote: I wouldn't count out Golden against San just yet. His playstyle this season can best be described as "tenacious" - he will not give up until it's well and truly over.
Id love if Golden won but theres 0 chance it happens
Famous last words.
He's just trying to jinx San because he's a Golden fan
Not even Artosis is enough to knock San out this time.
On July 06 2014 04:14 Darkhorse wrote: Hahahahaha Apollo has all buttons up and a tie, Kaelaris has one button undone, and ToD is going full relax mode with two buttons down
Tod is French, he has to do that. Kaelaris is betraying his queen though
EPT
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Golden, 
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I was too fixated on getting VortiX right I missed MC. 
more hyped for wcs NA ~
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