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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
June 22 2014 23:13 GMT
#3601
Rooting for Violet in this, he's such a fun Zerg.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 23:14 GMT
#3602
On June 23 2014 08:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:10 Schelim wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:09 SoSexy wrote:
I was out with a girl, just returned. Did Scarlett really take one game off DRG by playing protoss??

was she SoSexy?

and yes she did

So this happened in the DH thread a week ago.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 06:24 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Was the girl sosexy?


Pretty quick on the draw with that post finding.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 23:14 GMT
#3603
Also SoSexy with 2 girls in a week? He's getting a suspicious amount of action for a random guy posting on the internet...
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 23:14:55
June 22 2014 23:14 GMT
#3604
On June 23 2014 08:12 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:02 Squat wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:51 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:49 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:42 Squat wrote:
[quote]
It's also just a numbers game at this point. I think Scarlett has proved over the last few weeks that she can hang with strong Koreans. But if you go into a bracket where you have to win 5-6 BoX vs good Koreans, even assuming you are every bit as good as any of the individually, odds are one of them is going to have your number some way along that path.

A BO win, an unscouted all in, a really strong game from your opponent when you made some mistakes(as we just saw), all the stuff that happens when elite Koreans play each other. And when you are the only foreigner against 7+ Koreans most of them time, it's just a matter of mathematics, you won't be able to win that may games against really good players back to back unless the stars align.

What we just saw was an incredibly performance. Over the last weeks she's beaten Taeja/MMA/Hyun/Ragnarok/DRG/Life/MC/Stork/Patience/Polt/Violet etc. I know people here are going to shit on her now that she lost and just generally be assholes while ignoring all she actually did, but that's just the internet. I'm happy about this result, and if you are a Scarlett fan so should you, because this is really about as much as we can hope for given the state of the game.


You're totally right.

Unfortunately for us, for a foreign hope to triumph, being as good as the Koreans (as Scarlett is) isn't good enough if she's the only champion we have. The numbers just don't add up.

There's also a second truth though that I also realize. As good as these opponents are at this MLG, this isn't the top of the pyramid either. There's maybe only one to three players that you could argue could make a GSL Code S. Trap is one of them.

The rest of these guys are Code A level. The gap between them and the guys at the very top is well.......

Starcraft is tough, and the top Korean pros are just fucking good at it.

Life and DRG were in code S. Trap is Code S level. Other than that yeah probably not. Leenock is kinda close.

Code S round of 32 is now "kinda Code S".


Considering how much the Ro32 has fluctuated these last couple of seasons, yea basically.

There's a TON of players on that cusp of making Code A consistently and being eliminated in the Ro32.

Then there's a tier of guys that consistently make Code S but can't make it past the Ro16.

Then there's the freaks like Maru, Soulkey, soO and Zest who get "upset" if they don't make the Ro8.

The GSL is quite the pyramid, and the players in it are without a doubt the best in the world. It's what makes it hands down my favorite SC2 tournament.

All I'm saying is the Round of 32 is still Code S.


I suppose it depends on your definition. I call guys like Trap and DRG "Code S capable/level" It's really only Life that I consider a true Code S player because he's been there consistently and made it to the Ro4 a season ago.

The pinnacle of Code S, the players we see up there consistently, like Soo/Maru/Soulkey/Zest/Hero etc, are really in a different league. They are so much better than everyone else it's almost silly. I don't think holding foreign hopes and internationalized Koreans against that kind of standard is very productive or intelligent.


I'm not holding her to that standard at all.

I'm just saying that whenever I get hyped about how good some of the foreigners are, I have this image in the back of my head of how far away the top of the pyramid is and it's sobering.

It really helps you to appreciate the skill of those guys though. When the best of the rest of the world isn't even in their league? It's fucking crazy.

That's what almost two decades of Esports experience and unmatched infrastructure will do for you. As good as these guys are, they are also standing on the shoulders of giants, guys who made this possible with BW.

I really don't see anyone else catching up any time soon, it's just not realistic to expect anyone to overcome that kind of mountain. Better to just think of them as mysterious deities living on Mount Olympus.


Soo reveal's Soulkey's place on Mount Olympus.

http://p.twipple.jp/SYu0c
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 22 2014 23:14 GMT
#3605
Hey guys.

Top 3 at MLG is a Terran Protoss and a Zerg. Polt/Trap/Violet.

For all of the Power of Protoss shit earlier, this is as pretty as it gets.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#3606
On June 23 2014 08:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:10 Schelim wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:09 SoSexy wrote:
I was out with a girl, just returned. Did Scarlett really take one game off DRG by playing protoss??

was she SoSexy?

and yes she did

So this happened in the DH thread a week ago.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 06:24 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Was the girl sosexy?

seems like that dude chose the right nickname
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#3607
On June 23 2014 08:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:09 SoSexy wrote:
I was out with a girl, just returned. Did Scarlett really take one game off DRG by playing protoss??


She Huk'd him good.

Nah man it was Hitman!!


Either way, 2 base timing that was way more effective than it ever should have been


10 pool would have beat it. Since it was a nexus first into gate with no scout.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
June 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#3608
On June 23 2014 08:14 Vindicare605 wrote:
Hey guys.

Top 3 at MLG is a Terran Protoss and a Zerg. Polt/Trap/Violet.

For all of the Power of Protoss shit earlier, this is as pretty as it gets.

Like a nice Pokemon starter trio.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#3609
Polt is going full 2012 WoL
TL+ Member
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
June 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#3610
On June 23 2014 08:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:10 Schelim wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:09 SoSexy wrote:
I was out with a girl, just returned. Did Scarlett really take one game off DRG by playing protoss??

was she SoSexy?

and yes she did

So this happened in the DH thread a week ago.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 06:24 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Was the girl sosexy?


It's another girl, Darkhoarse.
Dating thread on TL LUL
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 22 2014 23:16 GMT
#3611
On June 23 2014 08:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:12 Squat wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:02 Squat wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:51 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:49 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 07:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

You're totally right.

Unfortunately for us, for a foreign hope to triumph, being as good as the Koreans (as Scarlett is) isn't good enough if she's the only champion we have. The numbers just don't add up.

There's also a second truth though that I also realize. As good as these opponents are at this MLG, this isn't the top of the pyramid either. There's maybe only one to three players that you could argue could make a GSL Code S. Trap is one of them.

The rest of these guys are Code A level. The gap between them and the guys at the very top is well.......

Starcraft is tough, and the top Korean pros are just fucking good at it.

Life and DRG were in code S. Trap is Code S level. Other than that yeah probably not. Leenock is kinda close.

Code S round of 32 is now "kinda Code S".


Considering how much the Ro32 has fluctuated these last couple of seasons, yea basically.

There's a TON of players on that cusp of making Code A consistently and being eliminated in the Ro32.

Then there's a tier of guys that consistently make Code S but can't make it past the Ro16.

Then there's the freaks like Maru, Soulkey, soO and Zest who get "upset" if they don't make the Ro8.

The GSL is quite the pyramid, and the players in it are without a doubt the best in the world. It's what makes it hands down my favorite SC2 tournament.

All I'm saying is the Round of 32 is still Code S.


I suppose it depends on your definition. I call guys like Trap and DRG "Code S capable/level" It's really only Life that I consider a true Code S player because he's been there consistently and made it to the Ro4 a season ago.

The pinnacle of Code S, the players we see up there consistently, like Soo/Maru/Soulkey/Zest/Hero etc, are really in a different league. They are so much better than everyone else it's almost silly. I don't think holding foreign hopes and internationalized Koreans against that kind of standard is very productive or intelligent.


I'm not holding her to that standard at all.

I'm just saying that whenever I get hyped about how good some of the foreigners are, I have this image in the back of my head of how far away the top of the pyramid is and it's sobering.

It really helps you to appreciate the skill of those guys though. When the best of the rest of the world isn't even in their league? It's fucking crazy.

That's what almost two decades of Esports experience and unmatched infrastructure will do for you. As good as these guys are, they are also standing on the shoulders of giants, guys who made this possible with BW.

I really don't see anyone else catching up any time soon, it's just not realistic to expect anyone to overcome that kind of mountain. Better to just think of them as mysterious deities living on Mount Olympus.


Soo reveal's Soulkey's place on Mount Olympus.

http://p.twipple.jp/SYu0c

"I call dibs on The Parthenon!"
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 23:16 GMT
#3612
On June 23 2014 08:15 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:14 Vindicare605 wrote:
Hey guys.

Top 3 at MLG is a Terran Protoss and a Zerg. Polt/Trap/Violet.

For all of the Power of Protoss shit earlier, this is as pretty as it gets.

Like a nice Pokemon starter trio.

Balloon needs to make top 4 so he can be the Pikachu.

I almost ranted about the Pokemon show just then. Whoa.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 22 2014 23:16 GMT
#3613
POooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolt!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 23:16 GMT
#3614
On June 23 2014 08:15 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:13 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:10 Schelim wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:09 SoSexy wrote:
I was out with a girl, just returned. Did Scarlett really take one game off DRG by playing protoss??

was she SoSexy?

and yes she did

So this happened in the DH thread a week ago.
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

On June 16 2014 06:24 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 16 2014 06:23 SoSexy wrote:
Sup guys! Missed the whole day because I had to attend a wedding and then had sex with a girl I met at the wedding. Good games? Is this also running tomorrow?

Was the girl sosexy?


It's another girl, Darkhoarse.

You SoSexy playa you
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
June 22 2014 23:17 GMT
#3615
Saves the Marauders too. Fucking Polt lol.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 23:17 GMT
#3616
On June 23 2014 08:15 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 08:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:09 SoSexy wrote:
I was out with a girl, just returned. Did Scarlett really take one game off DRG by playing protoss??


She Huk'd him good.

Nah man it was Hitman!!


Either way, 2 base timing that was way more effective than it ever should have been


10 pool would have beat it. Since it was a nexus first into gate with no scout.


It would have, for sure. But he didn't do that and payed for it
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
June 22 2014 23:17 GMT
#3617
Polt got in some nice damage there.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
June 22 2014 23:17 GMT
#3618
Holy shit, Polt is so good. His builds are incredibly funky.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 22 2014 23:18 GMT
#3619
Is that the first time this push has worked?
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 22 2014 23:19 GMT
#3620
On June 23 2014 08:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Also SoSexy with 2 girls in a week? He's getting a suspicious amount of action for a random guy posting on the internet...

It's almost like he's just going on the internet and telling lies, but I know people wouldn't really act like that. I for one am happy for SoSuxy's success in his poon-hunting endeavors.
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