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On June 23 2014 06:46 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:45 pigmanbear wrote:
Only ToD and Avilo would call what Trap is doing a "timing" Pre-BL timing, very common in WoL!
remember that game when MC was doing a timing and hit right before brood lords hatched? I had nerd chills
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On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close
1. Bomber
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On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close
no taeja? did you forget him like me?
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On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close
Oh also MKP is 7 I think probably. Or DRG.
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On June 23 2014 06:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close 1. Bomber
At what? Disappointing his fans?
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On June 23 2014 06:46 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:42 stuchiu wrote:On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL. And I'd put Taeja in over Nestea if it was all time. It depends on how much value we place on pure achievements and how much we take the circumstances under which they were achieved into account. You could make an argument for Nestea on pure achievements, but he was getting them during a period of time when no one had a clue of how to play Starcraft 2. Taeja got his achievements against brutal opposition across an expansion that greatly altered the meta. I think that ranks higher.
How much do we weight the amount of influence those early players had on the later meta game to influence their rankings? Its a massive topic.
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On June 23 2014 06:45 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt? 1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea. 1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time. And double WCS NA. MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins. It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships
3 GSLs with a lot of bracket luck, as well.
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Total melee in the LR today, I see
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On June 23 2014 06:47 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:47 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close 1. Bomber At what? Disappointing his fans?
Talent, looks, girls, personality
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On June 23 2014 06:47 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close no taeja? did you forget him like me?
FUCK ok
1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Taeja 4. Life 5. Polt 6. MMA 7. Nestea 8. MKP
MAYBE
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Seriously though, those of you making top 5's without TaeJa are delusional. He has to be in there somewhere.
EDIT: Well done Darkhorse. :D
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On June 23 2014 06:47 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:45 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt? 1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea. 1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time. And double WCS NA. MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins. It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships 3 GSLs with a lot of bracket luck, as well.
15-0 is full luck yeah. 
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What are you doing scarlett.. 1 push from trap and its over
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 23 2014 06:47 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close Oh also MKP is 7 I think probably. Or DRG.
MKP is #1
You're all delusional if you think otherwise
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On June 23 2014 06:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close 1. Bomber
I love this side of you.
Have my firstborn if you continue, ok?
On June 23 2014 06:47 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:47 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close 1. Bomber At what? Disappointing his fans?
hi, you can leave the LR thread now, we don't need you here.
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On June 23 2014 06:48 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:47 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close no taeja? did you forget him like me? FUCK ok 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Taeja 4. Life 5. Polt 6. MMA 7. Nestea 8. MKP MAYBE
Lol mentioning MKP. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!
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On June 23 2014 06:47 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:47 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 23 2014 06:47 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:46 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close 1. Bomber At what? Disappointing his fans? Talent, looks, girls, personality
Wintex is back you know. I saw him earlier.
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Taeja has beaten Sjaak, none of the others did. Taeja #1 imo
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On June 23 2014 06:48 Kasaraki wrote:
Seriously though, those of you making top 5's without TaeJa are delusional. He has to be in there somewhere.
I forgot him so hard TT. In my second one he is #3
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 23 2014 06:47 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 06:45 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt? 1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea. 1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time. And double WCS NA. MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins. It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships 3 GSLs with a lot of bracket luck, as well.
Anypro was favored against Nestea. Not Nestea's fault he broke him with a spine rush.
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