On June 23 2014 06:43 Heartland wrote:
You do know that Parting was also in the Kespa BW house?
You do know that Parting was also in the Kespa BW house?
Yeah and, so were nestea and mvp. Your point?
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
June 22 2014 21:44 GMT
#2881
On June 23 2014 06:43 Heartland wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:42 Iodem wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Heartland wrote: On June 23 2014 06:38 Iodem wrote: On June 23 2014 06:34 Xinzoe wrote: On June 23 2014 06:34 ElvenAshwin wrote: Scarlett is no where near best zerg. She's best foreigner, maybe, but soO/Soulkey/Rogue... pretty much any Kespa zerg actually would take her out easily. Not to mention Jaedong's consistently beaten her as well. drg is a kespa zerg By technicality, yes, but the eSF->KeSPA teams are in such poor form compared to the original kespa teams. Maru, Parting, Life, and Dark are the only former-eSF players that could even make it to the ro16 of GSL this season. All others are from the 'official' kespa switch. Uhm... And you think, even if we'd buy your argument, that their form has something to do with them coming from esf teams? Absolutely. They've had a training regimen that has been refined for almost 15 years. You do know that Parting was also in the Kespa BW house? Yeah and, so were nestea and mvp. Your point? | ||
phil.ipp
Austria1067 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2882
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2883
On June 23 2014 06:39 Emerson_H wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, maybe top 5. Are you kidding me? He's 17. Just wait till he finishes school. Maybe someday he will go for a Taeja trip to win all IEMs, DHs, WCS AM and EU and Blizzcon... | ||
jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2884
On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote: On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL. MMA is a god how dare you insult TaeJa How dare you insult MKP who the #1 penalty point accumulator in sc2 | ||
pigmanbear
Angola2010 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2885
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2886
On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote: On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL. MMA is a god how dare you insult TaeJa How dare you insult MKP who The Penalty God. | ||
Lorning
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Belgica34432 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2887
On June 23 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote: On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL. MMA is a god how dare you insult TaeJa How dare you insult MKP who The Penalty God. No | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2888
On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt? 1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea. 1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time. And double WCS NA. MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins. It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2889
On June 23 2014 06:42 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL. And I'd put Taeja in over Nestea if it was all time. It depends on how much value we place on pure achievements and how much we take the circumstances under which they were achieved into account. You could make an argument for Nestea on pure achievements, but he was getting them during a period of time when no one had a clue of how to play Starcraft 2. Taeja got his achievements against brutal opposition across an expansion that greatly altered the meta. I think that ranks higher. | ||
shabby
Norway6402 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2890
On June 23 2014 06:45 pigmanbear wrote: Only ToD and Avilo would call what Trap is doing a "timing" Pre-BL timing, very common in WoL! | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2891
On June 23 2014 06:45 Lorning wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote: On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote: On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: [quote] Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL. MMA is a god how dare you insult TaeJa How dare you insult MKP who The Penalty God. No PenaltyKingPrime | ||
Superbanana
2369 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2892
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Heartland
Sweden24583 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2893
On June 23 2014 06:44 Iodem wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:43 Heartland wrote: On June 23 2014 06:42 Iodem wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Heartland wrote: On June 23 2014 06:38 Iodem wrote: On June 23 2014 06:34 Xinzoe wrote: On June 23 2014 06:34 ElvenAshwin wrote: Scarlett is no where near best zerg. She's best foreigner, maybe, but soO/Soulkey/Rogue... pretty much any Kespa zerg actually would take her out easily. Not to mention Jaedong's consistently beaten her as well. drg is a kespa zerg By technicality, yes, but the eSF->KeSPA teams are in such poor form compared to the original kespa teams. Maru, Parting, Life, and Dark are the only former-eSF players that could even make it to the ro16 of GSL this season. All others are from the 'official' kespa switch. Uhm... And you think, even if we'd buy your argument, that their form has something to do with them coming from esf teams? Absolutely. They've had a training regimen that has been refined for almost 15 years. You do know that Parting was also in the Kespa BW house? Yeah and, so were nestea and mvp. Your point? That your argument is nonsensical. If it was like you are suggesting then Parting shouldn't be slumping. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2894
On June 23 2014 06:45 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote: On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt? 1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea. 1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time. And double WCS NA. MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins. It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships I know, but there it is. | ||
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2895
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2896
On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote: On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote: On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote: Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind Life is the past. He already peaked At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5. mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close. How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later. The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's 1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea 3/4/5 all super close | ||
Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2897
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VisonKai
United States2203 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2898
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figq
12519 Posts
June 22 2014 21:47 GMT
#2899
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 21:47 GMT
#2900
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