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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards.

Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 21:45:02
June 22 2014 21:44 GMT
#2881
On June 23 2014 06:43 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:42 Iodem wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:38 Iodem wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:34 Xinzoe wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:34 ElvenAshwin wrote:
Scarlett is no where near best zerg. She's best foreigner, maybe, but soO/Soulkey/Rogue... pretty much any Kespa zerg actually would take her out easily. Not to mention Jaedong's consistently beaten her as well.


drg is a kespa zerg

By technicality, yes, but the eSF->KeSPA teams are in such poor form compared to the original kespa teams. Maru, Parting, Life, and Dark are the only former-eSF players that could even make it to the ro16 of GSL this season. All others are from the 'official' kespa switch.


Uhm... And you think, even if we'd buy your argument, that their form has something to do with them coming from esf teams?


Absolutely. They've had a training regimen that has been refined for almost 15 years.


You do know that Parting was also in the Kespa BW house?

Yeah and, so were nestea and mvp. Your point?
If you don't like it, you can quit.
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2882
omfg trap will execute the sickest gateway/stargate push
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2883
On June 23 2014 06:39 Emerson_H wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, maybe top 5.

Are you kidding me? He's 17. Just wait till he finishes school.

Maybe someday he will go for a Taeja trip to win all IEMs, DHs, WCS AM and EU and Blizzcon...
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2884
On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL.

MMA is a god


how dare you insult TaeJa

How dare you insult MKP

who

the #1 penalty point accumulator in sc2
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2885
Only ToD and Avilo would call what Trap is doing a "timing"
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2886
On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL.

MMA is a god


how dare you insult TaeJa

How dare you insult MKP

who


The Penalty God.
Moderator
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2887
On June 23 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL.

MMA is a god


how dare you insult TaeJa

How dare you insult MKP

who


The Penalty God.

No
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 21:45 GMT
#2888
On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt?


1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea.

1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time.

And double WCS NA.

MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins.


It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships
AdministratorBreak the chains
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2889
On June 23 2014 06:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL.


And I'd put Taeja in over Nestea if it was all time.

It depends on how much value we place on pure achievements and how much we take the circumstances under which they were achieved into account. You could make an argument for Nestea on pure achievements, but he was getting them during a period of time when no one had a clue of how to play Starcraft 2.

Taeja got his achievements against brutal opposition across an expansion that greatly altered the meta. I think that ranks higher.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2890
On June 23 2014 06:45 pigmanbear wrote:
Only ToD and Avilo would call what Trap is doing a "timing"


Pre-BL timing, very common in WoL!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2891
On June 23 2014 06:45 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Ej_ wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Lorning wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:43 Jer99 wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:42 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:41 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
[quote]
Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


MMA is worse if you count all time. Tied if you just count WoL.

MMA is a god


how dare you insult TaeJa

How dare you insult MKP

who


The Penalty God.

No

PenaltyKingPrime
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2892
Double robo o_O and great to have ToD there!
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2893
On June 23 2014 06:44 Iodem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:43 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:42 Iodem wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Heartland wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:38 Iodem wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:34 Xinzoe wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:34 ElvenAshwin wrote:
Scarlett is no where near best zerg. She's best foreigner, maybe, but soO/Soulkey/Rogue... pretty much any Kespa zerg actually would take her out easily. Not to mention Jaedong's consistently beaten her as well.


drg is a kespa zerg

By technicality, yes, but the eSF->KeSPA teams are in such poor form compared to the original kespa teams. Maru, Parting, Life, and Dark are the only former-eSF players that could even make it to the ro16 of GSL this season. All others are from the 'official' kespa switch.


Uhm... And you think, even if we'd buy your argument, that their form has something to do with them coming from esf teams?


Absolutely. They've had a training regimen that has been refined for almost 15 years.


You do know that Parting was also in the Kespa BW house?

Yeah and, so were nestea and mvp. Your point?


That your argument is nonsensical. If it was like you are suggesting then Parting shouldn't be slumping.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2894
On June 23 2014 06:45 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:42 Zealously wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo


I can buy Mvp and MC, but why nestea, MMA and Polt?


1 super tournament. Consistent Code S player from nearly day 1 to when he left Korea.

1 MLG, 1 Assembly, 2nd place in IEM Cologne in the shittiest TvP meta of all time.

And double WCS NA.

MMA is tied. And Nestea is solely dependant on how much you weight his GSL wins.


It's pretty fishy to weigh 3 GSLs heavier than 2 GSLs and 5 more championships


I know, but there it is.
Moderator
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2895
IAC vs zerg? what?
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2896
On June 23 2014 06:44 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 06:43 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:40 Paljas wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:39 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Shellshock wrote:
On June 23 2014 06:37 Superbanana wrote:
Life is the future, but SoO is right now the mighty overmind

Life is the past. He already peaked

At least he peaked high. Double Triple crown winner and GSL/Blizzard Cup Champ. Even if he never wins another tournament he is currently top 10 of all time, probably top 5.

mvp, nestea, mc, mma, polt are above him imo

Now here is the room for some healthy debate! Nestea I would say no. He won 3 GSL's at an early time and never again was he dominant. Mvp is above him for sure. MMA and Polt are close but Life has won more than both. MC is debatable. Not really sure. Taeja is another one that is close.


How is MC debatable? The most winning player of all time, still legit 4 years later.

The only reason I say that is that MC hasn't been competitive with the very top Koreans for a little bit now and made all his recent money overseas. I still have him at Number 2. For me it's
1. Mvp 2. MC 3. Life 4. Polt 5. MMA 6. Nestea

3/4/5 all super close
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2897
There is one simple question: Is. There. Time.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
June 22 2014 21:46 GMT
#2898
Not just on rotti's stream lol
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 22 2014 21:47 GMT
#2899
oh rotti, shots fired by tod
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 22 2014 21:47 GMT
#2900
Games have been thrown. indeed le tod indeed
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