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On June 09 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:
herO's build is special tailored to stop scv pulls.
Scv pulls are made to kill Protoss that are moving from collosus to Storm.
herO stays on 3 base 4 gas, cuts TA and all archons/storm research. He puts it all into units and more collosus and just runs over the scv pull.
But isn't SCV pull designed to kill everything? Even if they have 4 Colossi? I've seen Korean PvTs in where it's been used successfully.
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Protoss don't like this map very much.
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On June 09 2014 12:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Flash vs herO Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (3) 15% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8) 40% ★★★- Good game (8) 40% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 5% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Flash vs herO Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 09 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:
herO's build is special tailored to stop scv pulls.
Scv pulls are made to kill Protoss that are moving from collosus to Storm.
herO stays on 3 base 4 gas, cuts TA and all archons/storm research. He puts it all into units and more collosus and just runs over the scv pull.
And Flash should know that. Why does he keep on pulling SCVs???
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On June 09 2014 12:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:
herO's build is special tailored to stop scv pulls.
Scv pulls are made to kill Protoss that are moving from collosus to Storm.
herO stays on 3 base 4 gas, cuts TA and all archons/storm research. He puts it all into units and more collosus and just runs over the scv pull. And Flash should know that. Why does he keep on pulling SCVs???
Maybe because lategame offers even fewer victory chances?
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On June 09 2014 12:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:
herO's build is special tailored to stop scv pulls.
Scv pulls are made to kill Protoss that are moving from collosus to Storm.
herO stays on 3 base 4 gas, cuts TA and all archons/storm research. He puts it all into units and more collosus and just runs over the scv pull. And Flash should know that. Why does he keep on pulling SCVs???
Desperate.
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And now herO can just cheese twice and have very little to fear if he does any form of scout denial.
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flash just didnt have the vikings and got caught by the blink stalkers before hitting the colossi that is why he lost that fight. You have to kill them fast not just kill them eventually. The entire fight is based on them
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i think if you're going to do the scv pull attack you have to make damn sure you can kill all the colossi
seemed like he only had 6-8 vikings
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On June 09 2014 12:26 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:
herO's build is special tailored to stop scv pulls.
Scv pulls are made to kill Protoss that are moving from collosus to Storm.
herO stays on 3 base 4 gas, cuts TA and all archons/storm research. He puts it all into units and more collosus and just runs over the scv pull. But isn't SCV pull designed to kill everything? Even if they have 4 Colossi? I've seen Korean PvTs in where it's been used successfully.
There is a reason scv pull died out for a long time leaving only 2-3 players able to win a TvP in Korea for a long time. (Maru, Polt, Jjakji and maybe TY in PL)
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Felt like Flash was grasping at straws that last game. He needs to just play solid and hope his late game ghost control can carry him through
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On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess...
Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls.
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On June 09 2014 12:27 Jazzman88 wrote:
And now herO can just cheese twice and have very little to fear if he does any form of scout denial.
How's herO's macro game been so far this series? Truth be told, he can do whatever he wants in game 6.
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Oh my goodness, that is bad.
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On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls.
Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls.
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Flash gives a gift Reaper for the Oracle herO gave in that past game.
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On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls.
The other 3?
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EPT
