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uh oh... Flash?
I wouldn't be sad if herO takes it this game, but let's make it a close game.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls.
He won g1 by getting a free third. He won g2 by punishing herO when he was off guard. Maybe scv pulls are his standard games. G1 was a sneaky move and g2 was just a reaction to what he saw.
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Flash, please, for the love of all that is good, start to realize how herO is playing.
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On June 09 2014 12:26 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:
herO's build is special tailored to stop scv pulls.
Scv pulls are made to kill Protoss that are moving from collosus to Storm.
herO stays on 3 base 4 gas, cuts TA and all archons/storm research. He puts it all into units and more collosus and just runs over the scv pull. But isn't SCV pull designed to kill everything? Even if they have 4 Colossi? I've seen Korean PvTs in where it's been used successfully.
The protoss was probably just bad as opposed to HerO, 4-5 collosi is a general counter to SCV pulls, even if they have a good amount of vikings which flash did not, in the end Hero choose the correct counter build and Flash executed badly.
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On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3?
Not Bomber that's for sure. It's Maru, Polt, and Jjakji
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3?
Polt
Maru
Jjakji
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The reaper doesn't want to know the sad truth
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On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls.
He won the first game after a long struggle despite building a 7'10 fourth on the spot, being 6v4 bases and herO not having Storm for 26 minuts; guess what would happen in an even lategame scenario with an earlier colo/storm combo. The second game didn't involve colo dual forge.
As for TaeJa, he's vastly better than MC in macro. Here there is no such skill gap.
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On June 09 2014 12:31 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Not Bomber that's for sure. It's Maru, Polt, and Jjakji
Yeah I definitely knew it wasn't Bomber or Bogus.
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Those Reapers would have lost 1-on-1 fights to Bisu's Probes.
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I want both to win, so I hope it goes down to a 7th game either way
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On June 09 2014 12:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Polt Maru Jjakji
Jjakji did pull SCVs a lot in the GSL, he won First like this several times.
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On June 09 2014 12:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Polt Maru Jjakji
really? They never pulled scvs... not once?
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On June 09 2014 12:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:31 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Not Bomber that's for sure. It's Maru, Polt, and Jjakji Yeah I definitely knew it wasn't Bomber or Bogus.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Bomber fan, but that guy knew one TvP strat for about 6 months there. get to three base, pull all SCVs
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 09 2014 12:33 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Polt Maru Jjakji Jjakji did pull SCVs a lot in the GSL, he won First like this several times.
But he also beat Trap without using scv pulls as well.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 09 2014 12:33 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Polt Maru Jjakji really? They never pulled scvs... not once?
Polt never
Maru maybe once out of 20.
Jjakji was like 50/50.
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Allin into double forge+3rd lol
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On June 09 2014 12:33 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Polt Maru Jjakji really? They never pulled scvs... not once?
I don't remember seeing Polt ever pull SCVs in any match-up as of late.
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On June 09 2014 12:34 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:31 Yorkie wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Not Bomber that's for sure. It's Maru, Polt, and Jjakji Yeah I definitely knew it wasn't Bomber or Bogus. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Bomber fan, but that guy knew one TvP strat for about 6 months there. get to three base, pull all SCVs
And I'm a huge Innovation fan, and that guy also just did that against Toss.
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On June 09 2014 12:33 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2014 12:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 09 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:On June 09 2014 12:29 Crot4le wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 TheDwf wrote:On June 09 2014 12:24 Crot4le wrote:
Why do Terrans insist on pulling SCVs after they are shut down time and time again? Have a wild guess... Flash won the first two games just fine without SCV pulls. And TaeJa wrecked MC 4-0 without relying on SCV pulls. Taeja is a special breed of Terran though. He's one of 4 Korean Terrans that didn't pull scvs in the era of scv pulls. The other 3? Polt Maru Jjakji really? They never pulled scvs... not once?
Polt never pulls SCVs. Maru did it once against a quick third build, but I don't remember him doing it vs colos.
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EPT
