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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 03 2014 22:48 GMT
#121
On June 04 2014 07:46 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:41 sAsImre wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:41 Rollora wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:35 Rollora wrote:
so finally Terrans have a good allin ability again. I wonder if it gets patched out again


In TvZ are you saying the lost it? Map dependent but never shirk a Terran's ability to be tricksey. Look at the recent development in the gold lift by MMA I think it was. with tanks, using a rax to sight and HARD containing zerg on it.

Just like in Arrested Development, there are always wins in the 11 *click click*

Well I mean something easy you can pull of on every map. Just like a baneling roach allin or a blink allin vs a terran. I am not sure if it is on purpose by blizzard, that terran doesn't have powerful openers vs toss, or it is just an oversight. But now at least vs Zerg there is a good fast allin that every noob can pulloff (which is good for the ladder (I am serious, if only one race has ezpz tactics for noobs that get you up very far, the game ONLY is balanced at the very top and right below it not even close)


11/11. Working since sc2 has been released.

yeah... works so great, we see it sooo often recently.
Also cheese !=allin
And also: 11/11 is ez to defend, once scouted


oooooooooooh, that Ret burn
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 03 2014 22:48 GMT
#122
And in all 3 times Major lost, he had a rematch in the decider, and his opponent in the Winner's Match was a Protoss.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 03 2014 22:48 GMT
#123
On June 04 2014 07:45 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:43 stuchiu wrote:
I'm a pre-patch Terran. I only play 5 rax reaper.

I initially thought about this in WoL, and wept. Poor everything. WoL reapers were so god damn strong in a completely different way. I think they made the transition graceful, especially after removing combat awareness which was some proper bull shit.

those qxc late game 3-3 reapers against Genius in TSL

Remember his little podium thing? That was a bit cringe worthy in retrospect, like he was banging his shoe at the UN about reaper balance in Beta.

On June 04 2014 07:46 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:43 stuchiu wrote:
I'm a pre-patch Terran. I only play 5 rax reaper.

I initially thought about this in WoL, and wept. Poor everything. WoL reapers were so god damn strong in a completely different way. I think they made the transition graceful, especially after removing combat awareness which was some proper bull shit.


I only played 5 rax reaper against Protoss too. And won all the time. It was great.

Alright, as Z, I can forgive that. I had a buddy who loved to Reaper bunker rush in WoL. Was definitely... different, that explosive what ever was really underrated.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 22:49:51
June 03 2014 22:48 GMT
#124
On June 04 2014 07:46 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:41 sAsImre wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:41 Rollora wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:35 Rollora wrote:
so finally Terrans have a good allin ability again. I wonder if it gets patched out again


In TvZ are you saying the lost it? Map dependent but never shirk a Terran's ability to be tricksey. Look at the recent development in the gold lift by MMA I think it was. with tanks, using a rax to sight and HARD containing zerg on it.

Just like in Arrested Development, there are always wins in the 11 *click click*

Well I mean something easy you can pull of on every map. Just like a baneling roach allin or a blink allin vs a terran. I am not sure if it is on purpose by blizzard, that terran doesn't have powerful openers vs toss, or it is just an oversight. But now at least vs Zerg there is a good fast allin that every noob can pulloff (which is good for the ladder (I am serious, if only one race has ezpz tactics for noobs that get you up very far, the game ONLY is balanced at the very top and right below it not even close)


11/11. Working since sc2 has been released.

yeah... works so great, we see it sooo often recently.
Also cheese !=allin
And also: 11/11 is ez to defend, once scouted


you're getting stupid.
Maru did it in his ro16 group, against RorO in PL. Inno even pulled it off vP on alterzim in the ATC lol. It's probably the most imba build vZ if you're willing to take the risk.
Zest fanboy.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 03 2014 22:48 GMT
#125
On June 04 2014 07:48 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:46 stuchiu wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:43 stuchiu wrote:
I'm a pre-patch Terran. I only play 5 rax reaper.

I initially thought about this in WoL, and wept. Poor everything. WoL reapers were so god damn strong in a completely different way. I think they made the transition graceful, especially after removing combat awareness which was some proper bull shit.


I only played 5 rax reaper against Protoss too. And won all the time. It was great.


I Korean 4-Gated a Zerg last month. And won.


So did Jim. Last Week. Stay free Jaedong.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 03 2014 22:49 GMT
#126
On June 04 2014 07:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:46 Rollora wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:41 sAsImre wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:41 Rollora wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:35 Rollora wrote:
so finally Terrans have a good allin ability again. I wonder if it gets patched out again


In TvZ are you saying the lost it? Map dependent but never shirk a Terran's ability to be tricksey. Look at the recent development in the gold lift by MMA I think it was. with tanks, using a rax to sight and HARD containing zerg on it.

Just like in Arrested Development, there are always wins in the 11 *click click*

Well I mean something easy you can pull of on every map. Just like a baneling roach allin or a blink allin vs a terran. I am not sure if it is on purpose by blizzard, that terran doesn't have powerful openers vs toss, or it is just an oversight. But now at least vs Zerg there is a good fast allin that every noob can pulloff (which is good for the ladder (I am serious, if only one race has ezpz tactics for noobs that get you up very far, the game ONLY is balanced at the very top and right below it not even close)


11/11. Working since sc2 has been released.

yeah... works so great, we see it sooo often recently.
Also cheese !=allin
And also: 11/11 is ez to defend, once scouted


Thats half the fun. Getting scouted, getting beaten and still winning a GSL Champioship.

poor decision making. Squirtle already had that game
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
June 03 2014 22:49 GMT
#127
I'm watching with (T)Neige,we're cheering for you major !
RIP MKP
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 22:50:59
June 03 2014 22:49 GMT
#128
On June 04 2014 07:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:48 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:46 stuchiu wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:43 stuchiu wrote:
I'm a pre-patch Terran. I only play 5 rax reaper.

I initially thought about this in WoL, and wept. Poor everything. WoL reapers were so god damn strong in a completely different way. I think they made the transition graceful, especially after removing combat awareness which was some proper bull shit.


I only played 5 rax reaper against Protoss too. And won all the time. It was great.


I Korean 4-Gated a Zerg last month. And won.


So did Jim. Last Week. Stay free Jaedong.

4 gates are funny things in this day and age. You are hedging your build on how long someone has been playing, because I remember the strictest WoL defense of that, and them going, am I really getting fucking four gated? Where is the Twilight?

It was something like 4:30 Evo, spine and spore, followed by mass units. add second spine if scout indicates its needed (zealots)
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
June 03 2014 22:50 GMT
#129
I have feeling if I played SC2 I would only 10 pool and try and become the EU Shine
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 03 2014 22:50 GMT
#130
On June 04 2014 07:50 AWalker9 wrote:
I have feeling if I played SC2 I would only 10 pool and try and become the EU Shine

EU Stuchiu
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 03 2014 22:50 GMT
#131
On June 04 2014 07:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:48 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:46 stuchiu wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:43 stuchiu wrote:
I'm a pre-patch Terran. I only play 5 rax reaper.

I initially thought about this in WoL, and wept. Poor everything. WoL reapers were so god damn strong in a completely different way. I think they made the transition graceful, especially after removing combat awareness which was some proper bull shit.


I only played 5 rax reaper against Protoss too. And won all the time. It was great.


I Korean 4-Gated a Zerg last month. And won.


So did Jim. Last Week. Stay free Jaedong.


Is there a VoD? Please say yes, I beg you.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 03 2014 22:50 GMT
#132
On June 04 2014 07:50 AWalker9 wrote:
I have feeling if I played SC2 I would only 10 pool and try and become the EU Shine


stuchiu's messiah. Sadly it sucks vT.
Zest fanboy.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 03 2014 22:51 GMT
#133
On June 04 2014 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:50 AWalker9 wrote:
I have feeling if I played SC2 I would only 10 pool and try and become the EU Shine


stuchiu's messiah. Sadly it sucks vT.

You say suck I say lots of Gold ladder points.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 22:52:25
June 03 2014 22:51 GMT
#134
On June 04 2014 07:48 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:46 Rollora wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:41 sAsImre wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:41 Rollora wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:37 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:35 Rollora wrote:
so finally Terrans have a good allin ability again. I wonder if it gets patched out again


In TvZ are you saying the lost it? Map dependent but never shirk a Terran's ability to be tricksey. Look at the recent development in the gold lift by MMA I think it was. with tanks, using a rax to sight and HARD containing zerg on it.

Just like in Arrested Development, there are always wins in the 11 *click click*

Well I mean something easy you can pull of on every map. Just like a baneling roach allin or a blink allin vs a terran. I am not sure if it is on purpose by blizzard, that terran doesn't have powerful openers vs toss, or it is just an oversight. But now at least vs Zerg there is a good fast allin that every noob can pulloff (which is good for the ladder (I am serious, if only one race has ezpz tactics for noobs that get you up very far, the game ONLY is balanced at the very top and right below it not even close)


11/11. Working since sc2 has been released.

yeah... works so great, we see it sooo often recently.
Also cheese !=allin
And also: 11/11 is ez to defend, once scouted


you're getting stupid.
Maru did it in his ro16 group, against RorO in PL. Inno even pulled it off vP on alterim in the ATC lol.

I didn't say it doesn't work anymore, nor did I say it is never played anymore. Just not that often
All I said is, that Terran finally got a useful/strong allin again or at least way to punish very greedy zerg. Which wasn't the case with reaper openings, or 3 reaper +6 hellions in the last few weeks where the zerg still could run away.
And you sir, consequently writing about cheese, where I think if I didn't mispell it catastrophically, called it an ALL IN.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#135
Ahaha Major
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#136
On June 04 2014 07:51 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:50 sAsImre wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:50 AWalker9 wrote:
I have feeling if I played SC2 I would only 10 pool and try and become the EU Shine


stuchiu's messiah. Sadly it sucks vT.

You say suck I say lots of Gold ladder points.



you could 6pool it would be faster.
Zest fanboy.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#137
Major ain't gonna have none of your lag, bro.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#138
LOL
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#139
On June 04 2014 07:50 AWalker9 wrote:
I have feeling if I played SC2 I would only 10 pool and try and become the EU Shine

Sadly, the only cheesy zerg of repute, and by that I mean cheesy in the way Gaulzi and Weedamins are, is ActionJesuz. 6 Pool Delta Quadrant All Day erry day.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 03 2014 22:52 GMT
#140
On June 04 2014 07:50 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:48 stuchiu wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:48 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:46 stuchiu wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:43 stuchiu wrote:
I'm a pre-patch Terran. I only play 5 rax reaper.

I initially thought about this in WoL, and wept. Poor everything. WoL reapers were so god damn strong in a completely different way. I think they made the transition graceful, especially after removing combat awareness which was some proper bull shit.


I only played 5 rax reaper against Protoss too. And won all the time. It was great.


I Korean 4-Gated a Zerg last month. And won.


So did Jim. Last Week. Stay free Jaedong.


Is there a VoD? Please say yes, I beg you.


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