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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On May 26 2014 20:32 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: It's being played June 2nd off stream, then casted sometime after Thanks for the info. Ugh, following this league can be a little aggravating at times. | ||
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Scarlett`
Korea (South)2396 Posts
On May 26 2014 20:44 mooncifer wrote: Well, here I come, again. >< According to IG's manager (the only resource), the game has been rescheduled again (x2) duo to MMA's absence. MMA is on his way to German. This time they said the game will starts at Monday, June 2, 7:00pm HKT (GMT+08:00). ![[image loading]](http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/7384b84agw1egrwppt97fj20o40gmgp5.jpg) It's really ridiculous: 1. It's hard to imagine that Acer's manager didn't know MMA's travel plan. I mean, come on, even I know that MMA used to play his WCS in German and normally arrives few days earlier to prepare for it. 2. IG's manager's weibo (Chinese Twitter) shows that the decision was made at least 2 hours before the scheduled time, but no one realized that they should inform us here. Sadly. The ATC guy wouldn't confirm the reschedule until an hour before it was supposed to start even though it was discussed like a week ago or smth. So everyone had to come today just in case | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 26 2014 21:17 AlternativeEgo wrote: Why put the whole thing on hold because one player of the two teams cannot participate? Such practice for a team league is really not a good idea (and EG's matches would end around 2017 if it actually was). Its not up to me as an admin to judge the teams capability with or without one player. When iG for example asked us in the past (I believe it was iG) if they could delay further than one week because of players having WCS, we allowed that as well. We already talked and discussed privately that we believe WCS is an acceptable scheduling conflict for a team whether its one or multiple players. I'll give an example to make it more obvious without naming a team. If a team has 6 players and two are missing for the clanwar, they could still play. If they ask for a delay we will allow it. If the other team has 5 players and one is missing they are capable to play as well, who are we to refuse them the delay for the same reason just because they already have a smaller lineup and only 1 person has to play WCS. I hope thats understandable. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 26 2014 21:13 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: The ATC guy wouldn't confirm the reschedule until an hour before it was supposed to start even though it was discussed like a week ago or smth. So everyone had to come today just in case With all respect, this is simply untrue Scarlett. | ||
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mooncifer
109 Posts
On May 26 2014 21:07 NarutO wrote: There was a bit of confusion, but Acer didn't want to play on Friday so they never agreed on that because INnoVation had Code S. …… This friday I don't know who gave out those information, but no one agreed to the date and there is no agreement between Acer and iG either in our skype conversation about playing today, because Acer said MMA is traveling to WCS. Thanks for your explanation NarutO. I don't know about other's resource. I got the "Friday" information from IG's manager Wu Jun “EdIsOn”. He released it in his Weibo on May 21 (Wednesday). There are two peaces of blogs. In the first one, he explained about the patch thing. http://weibo.com/2180619442/B5n5Lw50l And then he announced, and I quote, "Just want to let you guys know that, the game has been rescheduled to the day after tomorrow at 7:00 CST (UTC+08:00)“. http://weibo.com/2180619442/B5n6NDKgV | ||
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Kihshra
178 Posts
On May 26 2014 21:17 AlternativeEgo wrote: Why put the whole thing on hold because one player of the two teams cannot participate? Such practice for a team league is really not a good idea (and EG's matches would end around 2017 if it actually was). Inno can't play either... So no, it's not just one player. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On May 26 2014 21:42 NarutO wrote: With all respect, this is simply untrue Scarlett. So what is actually going on then? The lack of communication is the most irritating aspect of this. If it's not happening, so be it, but if viewers and players are sitting on standby for 30 mins after the game is scheduled to start, with no idea of what's happening, something has gone wrong from an administrative standpoint. I mean, if people knew 2 hours before it was supposed to start, why didn't anyone pop in here or on reddit and let people know? | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
it never was on their schedule on taketv.net and acer.taketv.net so there is really no reason to cry about how it was rescheduled again and got no information | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 26 2014 22:10 Squat wrote: So what is actually going on then? The lack of communication is the most irritating aspect of this. If it's not happening, so be it, but if viewers and players are sitting on standby for 30 mins after the game is scheduled to start, with no idea of what's happening, something has gone wrong from an administrative standpoint. I mean, if people knew 2 hours before it was supposed to start, why didn't anyone pop in here or on reddit and let people know? As Yhamm said, we are not responsible for the Teamliquid calendar. It wasn't on our schedule. Neither on http://www.taketv.net nor on acer.taketv.net :o! Acer was aware of it not being played today, regardless of what Scarlett did state here. At least their management knew. If she didn't or the players didn't - there was misscommunication or lack of communication within their team. | ||
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mooncifer
109 Posts
On May 26 2014 22:13 Yhamm wrote: they never said the game was supposed to be played today it never was on their schedule on taketv.net and acer.taketv.net so there is really no reason to cry about how it was rescheduled again and got no information Well, I don't know which group of people should be exactly treated as "THEY", but I believe that the team manager‘s words should be a reliable source. And he DID said that the game was supposed to be played today. http://weibo.com/2180619442/B5s4o8Bsi So I guess what the admins should do now is to communicate with IG's manager, rather than complaining audiences here. | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
or at least, if there is an error, don't blame the organizer when they never announced it in the first place... | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 26 2014 22:33 mooncifer wrote: Well, I don't know which group of people should be exactly treated as "THEY", but I believe that the team manager‘s words should be a reliable source. And he DID said that the game was supposed to be played today. http://weibo.com/2180619442/B5s4o8Bsi So I guess what the admins should do now is to communicate with IG's manager, rather than complaining audiences here. I don't want to post skype logs, and I get along with EdisOn very well, but he asked in Skype "so we are playing Acer today?" which should be hint enough that there was no fix appointment between those teams, why would he need to ask otherwise? :o | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On May 26 2014 22:59 Superbanana wrote: Where is the trustworthy organizer schedule? I looked at the acer website and found a link to liquipedia, if the previous date listed on liquipedia was based on IG manager information, then i understand why the teams, players and audience is so confused. http://acer.taketv.net/ On the left | ||
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mooncifer
109 Posts
On May 26 2014 22:54 NarutO wrote: I don't want to post skype logs, and I get along with EdisOn very well, but he asked in Skype "so we are playing Acer today?" which should be hint enough that there was no fix appointment between those teams, why would he need to ask otherwise? :o No, you don't need to post logs. I can't answer you why he asked you about the schedule 4 days after he announced it publicly. That's actually the question I want to ask btw. And since you and EdisOn get along very well, could you please suggest him stop posting uncertain information about the ATC? Those news he released were very confusing. And it's really unprofessional. | ||
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iG.EdIsOn
China15 Posts
On May 26 2014 23:16 mooncifer wrote: No, you don't need to post logs. I can't answer you why he asked you about the schedule 4 days after he announced it publicly. That's actually the question I want to ask btw. And since you and EdisOn get along very well, could you please suggest him stop posting uncertain information about the ATC? Those news he released were very confusing. And it's really unprofessional. There is a misunderstanding here.that date is comfirmed by me and acer. the reason i asked "so we r playing acer today?" is that i didn't see it in TeamLiquid's incoming events. so i asked the admin about this in skype.and the answer is they forgot to reset the tools about our match. and from Acer's information is that MMA is in the flight to EU,so that we can't play it today. and about ur suggestion , Yes,I'm not that professional.for me, i can understand Acer take serious about our matchs,as a lower team,i feel very thankful,for us ,we also want to play it seriously.so i take the suggestion to change the date again. I think it's no one's fault.if u want to find something bad there, what i can say is Acer and us want to play it very seriously,want to show something real to our fans. Maybe we'll be all-killed tonight,but we will try harder and harder for this. anyway,my English is so poor,i hope u can understand what i said. | ||
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Crot4le
England2927 Posts
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4rmag3ddon
Germany4 Posts
Teams decided for 17:00 CEST, but someone entered it incorrect at TL.net calendar! Can someone change it there aswell? | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
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