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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 02 2014 21:14 GMT
#361
On May 03 2014 06:08 orangeorange wrote:
serious question - tefel has seemingly played the exact same style for the past year++. everyone knows that zvp he's just going to mass roach/hydra almost every game and maybe add in some vipers if his first attack doesn't work. he must be one of the easiest pros to prepare for in terms of having a known style. how does he keep winning and having (albeit moderate) success? is his style just that powerful? why don't more players play like him? or is his style one of those things where he has lots of success vs mid-tier-ish players but gets rolled when he plays a top player?


Probably he is just very good at this style which makes it difficult to get to him. If he defends your early push, he'll steamroll. If you defends his first push, he'll just continue to push relentlessly.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 02 2014 21:15 GMT
#362
On May 03 2014 06:13 EmSc Tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 06:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:10 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:07 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:06 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:05 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 scypio wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 Mozdk wrote:
Polish trio?

Tefel, Mana and??


Nerchio!

Best foreigner in the world

No way!
The foreigner power ranking is:
1. ToD
2. Welmu
3. Vortix

Nononono

#1 King Arthur
the rest

I missed a few LR threads. That reference flew over my head -.-.


Nerchio. His name is Arthur


Artur , not Arthur


But it's Arthur in english. They have the lisp.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 02 2014 21:15 GMT
#363
On May 03 2014 06:06 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 06:05 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 scypio wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 Mozdk wrote:
Polish trio?

Tefel, Mana and??


Nerchio!

Best foreigner in the world

No way!
The foreigner power ranking is:
1. ToD
2. Welmu
3. Vortix

You forgot TooDming
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 21:18:35
May 02 2014 21:16 GMT
#364
On May 03 2014 06:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 06:10 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:07 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:06 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:05 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 scypio wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 Mozdk wrote:
Polish trio?

Tefel, Mana and??


Nerchio!

Best foreigner in the world

No way!
The foreigner power ranking is:
1. ToD
2. Welmu
3. Vortix

Nononono

#1 King Arthur
the rest

I missed a few LR threads. That reference flew over my head -.-.


Nerchio. His name is Arthur

Ahh okay.

On May 03 2014 06:15 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 06:06 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:05 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 scypio wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 Mozdk wrote:
Polish trio?

Tefel, Mana and??


Nerchio!

Best foreigner in the world

No way!
The foreigner power ranking is:
1. ToD
2. Welmu
3. Vortix

You forgot TooDming

You're right. TooDming for 3rd. Vortix's wins were like last month or something. No way you can count those.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
May 02 2014 21:18 GMT
#365
On May 03 2014 06:08 orangeorange wrote:
serious question - tefel has seemingly played the exact same style for the past year++. everyone knows that zvp he's just going to mass roach/hydra almost every game and maybe add in some vipers if his first attack doesn't work. he must be one of the easiest pros to prepare for in terms of having a known style. how does he keep winning and having (albeit moderate) success? is his style just that powerful? why don't more players play like him? or is his style one of those things where he has lots of success vs mid-tier-ish players but gets rolled when he plays a top player?


Apart from the question "what would you like to do" is also the matter of "how well do you do it".

Take a blink-stalker all-in for example. This is a build that any protoss could execute from silver league up. Still, if you hand the stalkers to MC he will tear through a huge pile of opponents before he hits someone who can stop him.

Same goes for Tefel I think. He tries to have perfect saturation and hit a very crisp and strong timing with his roach/hydra. Even if it fails he can go for a follow-up with some vipers. And recently Tefel hydras got a buff
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 02 2014 21:29 GMT
#366
On May 03 2014 06:15 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 06:06 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:05 Lorning wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 scypio wrote:
On May 03 2014 06:04 Mozdk wrote:
Polish trio?

Tefel, Mana and??


Nerchio!

Best foreigner in the world

No way!
The foreigner power ranking is:
1. ToD
2. Welmu
3. Vortix

You forgot TooDming

And Scoobers
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 02 2014 21:29 GMT
#367
Nooo Nightend

Well I'm glad I put my liquibets on tefel almost 100% for challenger across all regions :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
May 02 2014 21:40 GMT
#368
Well, if you are good at one style you can keep using it unless it's an early game cheese. It's not like P/Z don't know what T will do in 90% of the time.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
May 02 2014 23:07 GMT
#369
http://www.sc2quoteoftheday.com/?date=01-Feb-13

Relevant to this discussion of Tefel's builds.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
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