On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments
yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments
but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
April 26 2014 20:28 GMT
#2781
On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff | ||
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
April 26 2014 20:28 GMT
#2782
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak I'd argue herO at the end of last year/start of this year pretty much fits the bill, his win record across all matchups were insane. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#2783
On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote: On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote: Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime. He's always been close, but only closed it out once. Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination. And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC). Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year 2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32743 Posts
April 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#2784
On April 27 2014 05:28 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote: On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff Many a MKP fan did Mvp make sad back in the days. Before he was exposed as a human he wasn't particularly charismatic or had a storyline, was just another good Korean Terran who would overwhelm anyone with mechanics and strategy. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2785
On April 27 2014 05:28 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote: On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff The greatest image change of all time. He went from this evil Terran emotionless overlord into this scrappy underdog retired champ who used intelligence, cunning and willpower to win. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2786
On April 27 2014 05:26 opterown wrote: don't worry there's always azera's blog to lighten things up ;D Oooh I remember that blog. Was just hilarious | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2787
On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote: On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote: On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote: Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime. He's always been close, but only closed it out once. Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination. And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC). Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year 2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2788
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak Innovation was pretty clearly god tier. Tournament wins are great but they're not as important as people make them out to be. Form is a much better indicator and he was dominant in all matchups, across team and individual leagues. Ridiculous team-league performance for both AxAcer and Acer in ATC. Bunch of RO4 finishes in top-tier tournaments, not to mention his ridiculous performance in Proleague with 3 all-kills. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:31 GMT
#2789
On April 27 2014 05:30 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote: On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote: On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote: On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote: Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime. He's always been close, but only closed it out once. Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination. And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC). Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year 2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja Em PL>>>>IPLTAC and GSTL | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:31 GMT
#2790
On April 27 2014 05:28 AWalker9 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak I'd argue herO at the end of last year/start of this year pretty much fits the bill, his win record across all matchups were insane. Nah its Zest and Dear. They both did what Innovation couldn't and won two back to back Korean championships. (Or in Dear's case WCS season 3 finals) | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2014 20:31 GMT
#2791
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote: For the record I like TB and his team etc. Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak Mvp and Life | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26032 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2792
Mvp is a god of course but I always felt with him it was a quiet confidence in him winning, not a 'he's going to tear shit up' like I got with Inno Apparently he's opening up and showing his personality though so I'll have to avoid things exposing that. I prefer him as the emotionless Starcraft machine | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2793
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2794
On April 27 2014 05:31 GumBa wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:30 opterown wrote: On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote: On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote: On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote: On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote: Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime. He's always been close, but only closed it out once. Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination. And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC). Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year 2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja Em PL>>>>IPLTAC and GSTL GSTL at that time was = SPL anyway, SPL just had the lingering prestige from BW, it's just another premier korean teamleague otherwise | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2795
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2796
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2797
On April 27 2014 05:32 Wombat_NI wrote: Dear and Zest weren't tearing apart Proleague from recollection Inno also seemed to sweep more opponents iirc Mvp is a god of course but I always felt with him it was a quiet confidence in him winning, not a 'he's going to tear shit up' like I got with Inno Apparently he's opening up and showing his personality though so I'll have to avoid things exposing that. I prefer him as the emotionless Starcraft machine Zest all killed SKT. What more do you want from him? | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2798
On April 27 2014 05:28 Yorkie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:26 TotalBiscuit wrote: On April 27 2014 05:25 Yorkie wrote: On April 27 2014 05:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: On April 27 2014 05:22 Yorkie wrote: On April 27 2014 05:19 Wombat_NI wrote: Oh my god fuck Protoss so Godamn imba what a retarded race. I said it with passion guys so that's ok ye? Hoping to see at least one technical weird build from TY tomorrow and hopefully an Innovation in prime form. Outside of that pretty cool matchups, god an actual racial mix in a Ro16 how refreshing Especially so soon after spewing a bunch of posts about how protoss can't win late game against Terran. Maybe he'll go for the trifecta and say Terran can't beat zerg Sorry I can't hear you from atop my Axiom fanatic horse ![]() How mature, lucky you're super important, not just one of us worthless LR plebs or you wouldn't be here anymore Turns out of you contribute to the scene rather than run around calling people whores and bitches in an LR thread, you get some perks. Try it sometime. Wow look at that, I call people whores and bitches now. I'm glad you make good use of your "perks" which you appear to think are simply entitlements to be an ass Own up to your shit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21260533 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21260604 You don't hold the moral highground, after you went out and called people supporting Impact a bunch of "axiom fanatic whores". | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2799
On April 27 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote: Innovation is the best Teamleague player right now though. He has yet to lose a team league despite playing for three different teams. Wow, actually never thought of that. That is pretty insane. Now if only teamleagues were more important in SC2... | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2800
On April 27 2014 05:32 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On April 27 2014 05:31 GumBa wrote: On April 27 2014 05:30 opterown wrote: On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote: On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote: On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote: On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote: Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime. He's always been close, but only closed it out once. Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination. And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC). Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year 2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja Em PL>>>>IPLTAC and GSTL GSTL at that time was = SPL anyway, SPL just had the lingering prestige from BW, it's just another premier korean teamleague otherwise I just disagree that Creators Teamleague peak was higher than Inno | ||
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