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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 26 2014 20:28 GMT
#2781
On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak

yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments

but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 20:29:19
April 26 2014 20:28 GMT
#2782
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak


I'd argue herO at the end of last year/start of this year pretty much fits the bill, his win record across all matchups were insane.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#2783
On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote:
Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime.


He's always been close, but only closed it out once.

Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination.

And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC).

Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year

2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
April 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#2784
On April 27 2014 05:28 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak

yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments

but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff

Many a MKP fan did Mvp make sad back in the days. Before he was exposed as a human he wasn't particularly charismatic or had a storyline, was just another good Korean Terran who would overwhelm anyone with mechanics and strategy.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2785
On April 27 2014 05:28 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:27 Shellshock wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak

yea Mvp because he actually won the tournaments

but people didn't like Mvp until wrists and stuff


The greatest image change of all time. He went from this evil Terran emotionless overlord into this scrappy underdog retired champ who used intelligence, cunning and willpower to win.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2786
On April 27 2014 05:26 opterown wrote:
don't worry there's always azera's blog to lighten things up ;D

Oooh I remember that blog. Was just hilarious
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2787
On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote:
Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime.


He's always been close, but only closed it out once.

Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination.

And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC).

Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year

2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard

eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#2788
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak


Innovation was pretty clearly god tier. Tournament wins are great but they're not as important as people make them out to be. Form is a much better indicator and he was dominant in all matchups, across team and individual leagues. Ridiculous team-league performance for both AxAcer and Acer in ATC. Bunch of RO4 finishes in top-tier tournaments, not to mention his ridiculous performance in Proleague with 3 all-kills.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:31 GMT
#2789
On April 27 2014 05:30 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote:
Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime.


He's always been close, but only closed it out once.

Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination.

And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC).

Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year

2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard

eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja

Em PL>>>>IPLTAC and GSTL
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:31 GMT
#2790
On April 27 2014 05:28 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak


I'd argue herO at the end of last year/start of this year pretty much fits the bill, his win record across all matchups were insane.


Nah its Zest and Dear.

They both did what Innovation couldn't and won two back to back Korean championships. (Or in Dear's case WCS season 3 finals)
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2014 20:31 GMT
#2791
On April 27 2014 05:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
For the record I like TB and his team etc.

Serious question, has anyone really felt as dominant as Innovation at the peak of his powers? Across those GSL runs and his Proleague showings guy was a monster at his peak


Mvp and Life
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26032 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2792
Dear and Zest weren't tearing apart Proleague from recollection Inno also seemed to sweep more opponents iirc

Mvp is a god of course but I always felt with him it was a quiet confidence in him winning, not a 'he's going to tear shit up' like I got with Inno

Apparently he's opening up and showing his personality though so I'll have to avoid things exposing that. I prefer him as the emotionless Starcraft machine
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2793
Innovation is the best Teamleague player right now though. He has yet to lose a team league despite playing for three different teams.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2794
On April 27 2014 05:31 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:30 opterown wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote:
Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime.


He's always been close, but only closed it out once.

Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination.

And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC).

Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year

2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard

eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja

Em PL>>>>IPLTAC and GSTL

GSTL at that time was = SPL anyway, SPL just had the lingering prestige from BW, it's just another premier korean teamleague otherwise
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2795
Life was pretty dominant for a certain stretch and late WoL/early HotS. When Inno beat him in that group of death pretty handily he took over as most dominant. I thought he was clearly the topl player at the time even with the loss to Soulkey. The guy was just so damn scary.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#2796
Innovation is the Teamleague king of sc2
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2797
On April 27 2014 05:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Dear and Zest weren't tearing apart Proleague from recollection Inno also seemed to sweep more opponents iirc

Mvp is a god of course but I always felt with him it was a quiet confidence in him winning, not a 'he's going to tear shit up' like I got with Inno

Apparently he's opening up and showing his personality though so I'll have to avoid things exposing that. I prefer him as the emotionless Starcraft machine


Zest all killed SKT. What more do you want from him?
Moderator
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 20:34:12
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2798
On April 27 2014 05:28 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:25 Yorkie wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:22 Yorkie wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
Oh my god fuck Protoss so Godamn imba what a retarded race.

I said it with passion guys so that's ok ye?

Hoping to see at least one technical weird build from TY tomorrow and hopefully an Innovation in prime form. Outside of that pretty cool matchups, god an actual racial mix in a Ro16 how refreshing

Especially so soon after spewing a bunch of posts about how protoss can't win late game against Terran. Maybe he'll go for the trifecta and say Terran can't beat zerg


Sorry I can't hear you from atop my Axiom fanatic horse

[image loading]

How mature, lucky you're super important, not just one of us worthless LR plebs or you wouldn't be here anymore


Turns out of you contribute to the scene rather than run around calling people whores and bitches in an LR thread, you get some perks.

Try it sometime.

Wow look at that, I call people whores and bitches now. I'm glad you make good use of your "perks" which you appear to think are simply entitlements to be an ass


Own up to your shit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21260533

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21260604

You don't hold the moral highground, after you went out and called people supporting Impact a bunch of "axiom fanatic whores".


CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2799
On April 27 2014 05:32 stuchiu wrote:
Innovation is the best Teamleague player right now though. He has yet to lose a team league despite playing for three different teams.


Wow, actually never thought of that. That is pretty insane.


Now if only teamleagues were more important in SC2...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 26 2014 20:33 GMT
#2800
On April 27 2014 05:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 05:31 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:30 opterown wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:29 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:27 opterown wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:24 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2014 05:22 herMan wrote:
Yah I'm talking about how he's been a favorite in every tournament for the past year. I expected him to rack up tourney wins by now like Taeja likes to do in summertime.


He's always been close, but only closed it out once.

Then again, from March to end of August in 2013, he got top 4 or better in every single Premier tournament that he entered. Only Mvp and Life have had comparable levels of domination.

And he's the only player to have won the teamleague triple crown (PL, GSTL, and ATC).

Prime won it with GSTL, IPL and KSL in 2012, literally won every tournament they entered for about half the year

2012 Prime was sick. But you cant deny Innovation rekt teamleagues really hard

eh i'm pretty sure creator at his teamleague peak had a better teamleague winrate than bogus at his peak, same for taeja

Em PL>>>>IPLTAC and GSTL

GSTL at that time was = SPL anyway, SPL just had the lingering prestige from BW, it's just another premier korean teamleague otherwise

I just disagree that Creators Teamleague peak was higher than Inno
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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