• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:08
CEST 11:08
KST 18:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors12[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists17[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1811 users

[Code S] Ro4 Day 2 Season 1 2014 - Page 42

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 40 41 42 All
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
March 29 2014 12:00 GMT
#821
not watching this zvz without my favorite tastosis
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
March 29 2014 12:02 GMT
#822
are they gonna bring back moletrap for casting the finals?
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 29 2014 12:42 GMT
#823
On March 29 2014 21:02 cheekymonkey wrote:
are they gonna bring back moletrap for casting the finals?

Stop it, thats not even funny. Seriously, im fucking scared right now :/
you no take candle
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
March 29 2014 13:00 GMT
#824
SOO'D
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 13:03:58
March 29 2014 13:03 GMT
#825
On March 29 2014 21:42 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 21:02 cheekymonkey wrote:
are they gonna bring back moletrap for casting the finals?

Stop it, thats not even funny. Seriously, im fucking scared right now :/


Moletrap + the return of ...

+ Show Spoiler +
Kellymilkies :o
+ Show Spoiler +
please no
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 29 2014 13:18 GMT
#826
On March 29 2014 22:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 21:42 sc2holar wrote:
On March 29 2014 21:02 cheekymonkey wrote:
are they gonna bring back moletrap for casting the finals?

Stop it, thats not even funny. Seriously, im fucking scared right now :/


Moletrap + the return of ...

+ Show Spoiler +
Kellymilkies :o
+ Show Spoiler +
please no

What is Moletrap doing these days anyway...
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 29 2014 13:19 GMT
#827
Molecraft is pretty good at solocasting but he just cant get the duo dynamic going. He constantly interrupts his co-commentator, ignores what they have to say and sometimes downright SIGHs into the microphone because his co-host is talking wich seems to annoy him because he wants to talk endlessly.
you no take candle
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
March 29 2014 13:23 GMT
#828
On March 29 2014 22:19 sc2holar wrote:
Molecraft is pretty good at solocasting but he just cant get the duo dynamic going. He constantly interrupts his co-commentator, ignores what they have to say and sometimes downright SIGHs into the microphone because his co-host is talking wich seems to annoy him because he wants to talk endlessly.


so we want moletrap to cast the finals alone?

inform gom that this is our wish
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 13:25:23
March 29 2014 13:23 GMT
#829
whoops wrong thread x3
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
March 29 2014 14:52 GMT
#830
SKT's soO scored a narrow 4-2 victory over Life to advance to the GSL finals. He will face Zest on April 5th <--- wasn't it 4-3 ?
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
March 29 2014 16:00 GMT
#831
soO won this too back in the day.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
March 29 2014 16:31 GMT
#832
On March 29 2014 18:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 17:57 absinthfee wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:18 fishjie wrote:
On March 29 2014 03:42 Big J wrote:
On March 29 2014 03:30 fishjie wrote:
Today's faceless korean becomes tomorrow's fan favorite. The problem is sc2 is so volatile. Since the game is so coin flippy in mirror matchups and all-ins are so strong, no one can dominate for longer than a month or two, tops. THAT is the main problem with sc2. The faceless koreans are boring, because their interview responses are so generic, but i recall Soo's interview when he faced dear in the finals were quite funny.


Yeah, Soulkey was just a scrub throughout all of lasts year and not dominating at all. Taeja and Polt each winning 5tournaments just comes from volatility of the game.
And soO making two consecutive GSL finals is a great reason to whine about inconsistency of topplayers..


Domination = winning tournaments. Placing high consistently just means you're good. That's not domination. The game is volatile. soulkey has placed HIGH, but he hasn't won a championship for a while, and pretty sure he got eliminated in this season's group stages of gsl. guys like taeja and polt will suffer random eliminations, as does liquid hero and so on and so forth

innovation hyped up as the greatest ever. then hellbat nerf came and he fell off after getting picked apart by terrans in tournaments, then fall off even harder after he joined foreign team

dear won two back to back tournaments, only to fall off after joining foreign team.

sos wins the ultimate wcs tourney only to fall off completely, and randomly wins the IEM world tourney, only to get owned in the gsl upon return to korea.

then there are the quick one off GSL champs like seed, sniper, roro, jjakji

i can keep going. again, the game is too volatile, and yesterday's faceless guy is tomorrow's fan favorite. whoever wins this will be a favorite a while, but then will most likely drop off


There are few sports in general that have that kind of a dominating player/team, because the level of competition is so high.

And imagine a tournament without any upsets. Wouldn't this be boring as hell?


Having a consistent winner or at least finalist isn't the same thing as having no upsets whatsoever at any point in a 32 man tournament. And honestly, it wasn't that boring in Brood War, in fact it was hella hype when players remained strong for enough time to be able to win multiple OSLs/MSLs.

I think fishjie is exaggerating a bit, but at the same time he does kinda have point. The crown at the very top seems to be shifting really quickly, almost on a monthly basis even, and to me personally, as a viewer and general follower of SC2 professional competition, that is a lot less interesting than having someone crush face for a longer period of time, like Mvp, MMA, DongRaeGu, Life, TaeJa managed to do in 2011 and 2012.

Also, regarding the convo above, I agree that it's pretty idiotic to think soO is just some random nobody who's never gonna do well ever again.

+ Show Spoiler +

But then again... SKT Zerg hue hue hue


In my opininon this is only because we have 3 GSLs in a year instead of the 10 we had before. I would say that volatility is even going down instead of up.

Every hots champion last year is at least still relevant today. Soulkey ro16, Maru ro8, Dear ro16.
The finalists aren't too bad either with Rain placing ro4 and soO ro2. Innovation seems to be the exception to the rule with failing in Code A. I am blaming the foreign team for that. He still does well in overseas tournaments.

Even RorO had a resurgence and ended in the Ro16.

Compare this to last years results and you will see that consistency in the big picture went up instead of down.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 29 2014 16:40 GMT
#833
On March 30 2014 01:00 LockeTazeline wrote:
soO won this too back in the day.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational

I remember the last MLG when there were Kespa qualifiers and soO, Dear and I think Stats made it through. Everyone complained that they were low-tier Kespa players, but look at them now lol.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
March 29 2014 16:51 GMT
#834
wow, amazing comeback!!
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3756 Posts
March 29 2014 18:50 GMT
#835
On March 30 2014 01:51 MattRz wrote:
wow, amazing comeback!!

What comeback - they were trading games all series.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 29 2014 21:01 GMT
#836
On March 30 2014 01:31 absinthfee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 18:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 29 2014 17:57 absinthfee wrote:
On March 29 2014 05:18 fishjie wrote:
On March 29 2014 03:42 Big J wrote:
On March 29 2014 03:30 fishjie wrote:
Today's faceless korean becomes tomorrow's fan favorite. The problem is sc2 is so volatile. Since the game is so coin flippy in mirror matchups and all-ins are so strong, no one can dominate for longer than a month or two, tops. THAT is the main problem with sc2. The faceless koreans are boring, because their interview responses are so generic, but i recall Soo's interview when he faced dear in the finals were quite funny.


Yeah, Soulkey was just a scrub throughout all of lasts year and not dominating at all. Taeja and Polt each winning 5tournaments just comes from volatility of the game.
And soO making two consecutive GSL finals is a great reason to whine about inconsistency of topplayers..


Domination = winning tournaments. Placing high consistently just means you're good. That's not domination. The game is volatile. soulkey has placed HIGH, but he hasn't won a championship for a while, and pretty sure he got eliminated in this season's group stages of gsl. guys like taeja and polt will suffer random eliminations, as does liquid hero and so on and so forth

innovation hyped up as the greatest ever. then hellbat nerf came and he fell off after getting picked apart by terrans in tournaments, then fall off even harder after he joined foreign team

dear won two back to back tournaments, only to fall off after joining foreign team.

sos wins the ultimate wcs tourney only to fall off completely, and randomly wins the IEM world tourney, only to get owned in the gsl upon return to korea.

then there are the quick one off GSL champs like seed, sniper, roro, jjakji

i can keep going. again, the game is too volatile, and yesterday's faceless guy is tomorrow's fan favorite. whoever wins this will be a favorite a while, but then will most likely drop off


There are few sports in general that have that kind of a dominating player/team, because the level of competition is so high.

And imagine a tournament without any upsets. Wouldn't this be boring as hell?


Having a consistent winner or at least finalist isn't the same thing as having no upsets whatsoever at any point in a 32 man tournament. And honestly, it wasn't that boring in Brood War, in fact it was hella hype when players remained strong for enough time to be able to win multiple OSLs/MSLs.

I think fishjie is exaggerating a bit, but at the same time he does kinda have point. The crown at the very top seems to be shifting really quickly, almost on a monthly basis even, and to me personally, as a viewer and general follower of SC2 professional competition, that is a lot less interesting than having someone crush face for a longer period of time, like Mvp, MMA, DongRaeGu, Life, TaeJa managed to do in 2011 and 2012.

Also, regarding the convo above, I agree that it's pretty idiotic to think soO is just some random nobody who's never gonna do well ever again.

+ Show Spoiler +

But then again... SKT Zerg hue hue hue


In my opininon this is only because we have 3 GSLs in a year instead of the 10 we had before. I would say that volatility is even going down instead of up.

Every hots champion last year is at least still relevant today. Soulkey ro16, Maru ro8, Dear ro16.
The finalists aren't too bad either with Rain placing ro4 and soO ro2. Innovation seems to be the exception to the rule with failing in Code A. I am blaming the foreign team for that. He still does well in overseas tournaments.

Even RorO had a resurgence and ended in the Ro16.

Compare this to last years results and you will see that consistency in the big picture went up instead of down.

I blame balance as well, the way Innovation went out was pretty stupid and he got caught in a 3 toss group when Blink just got really popular and wasn't even close to being figured out. Might say he got caught when the T metagame was behind Protoss. It's the only reason he went out.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
March 30 2014 02:17 GMT
#837
On March 30 2014 01:00 LockeTazeline wrote:
soO won this too back in the day.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational


Holy shit, beating Flash, TY, and Soulkey on the road to victory!
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 30 2014 14:01 GMT
#838
On March 29 2014 05:03 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 03:42 Big J wrote:
On March 29 2014 03:30 fishjie wrote:
Today's faceless korean becomes tomorrow's fan favorite. The problem is sc2 is so volatile. Since the game is so coin flippy in mirror matchups and all-ins are so strong, no one can dominate for longer than a month or two, tops. THAT is the main problem with sc2. The faceless koreans are boring, because their interview responses are so generic, but i recall Soo's interview when he faced dear in the finals were quite funny.


Yeah, Soulkey was just a scrub throughout all of lasts year and not dominating at all. Taeja and Polt each winning 5tournaments just comes from volatility of the game.
And soO making two consecutive GSL finals is a great reason to whine about inconsistency of topplayers..

Ignore this guy. Callin soO faceless is just a blatant insult that people think is cool to do when they don't pay attention to SC2 very well. It is so frustrating to see people still getting on the forums here and seriously belittling players undeservedly. And here's a nice picture of soO being dominant for longer then a few months. Hopefully next time this guy will educate himself before posting.

[image loading]

So where are those Ro16 exits consistant domination? It's consistant, especially back-to-back GSL finals, and I'm not taking anything off this guy in terms of skill. But to me as a casual fan, soO appears to be a sniper-like player in terms of face, at least.
Prev 1 40 41 42 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
WardiTV Mondays #79
CranKy Ducklings16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech142
SortOf 111
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2661
Mind 1528
Horang2 1051
Hyuk 511
Jaedong 505
EffOrt 311
910 204
Larva 199
Killer 149
actioN 129
[ Show more ]
PianO 90
ToSsGirL 80
Stork 56
Sacsri 41
Aegong 36
yabsab 31
Shine 22
Nal_rA 22
Bale 13
SilentControl 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Dota 2
XaKoH 571
NeuroSwarm453
resolut1ontv 205
XcaliburYe75
League of Legends
JimRising 528
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1914
shoxiejesuss1825
allub371
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor175
Other Games
ceh9588
singsing224
Pyrionflax114
Mew2King50
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH233
• LUISG 34
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1266
• Stunt675
Other Games
• WagamamaTV216
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
52m
Soma vs hero
Wardi Open
1h 52m
Monday Night Weeklies
6h 52m
Replay Cast
14h 52m
Replay Cast
23h 52m
Afreeca Starleague
1d
Leta vs YSC
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.