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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 27 2014 21:16 GMT
#1101
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

SaSe's shown before that the amount of blink stalkers makes a huge difference, even if you don't have the higher-tech units.
kiss kiss fall in love
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 21:16 GMT
#1102
On March 28 2014 06:13 NovaMB wrote:
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

★★★ - Good game (5)
 
63%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
 
38%

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
 
0%

★★ - Not recommended unless you got nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you got nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 27 2014 21:16 GMT
#1103
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 27 2014 21:16 GMT
#1104
"I'm rough around the edges." - Apollo
kiss kiss fall in love
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 27 2014 21:17 GMT
#1105
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


map?
Moderator
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 27 2014 21:17 GMT
#1106
On March 28 2014 06:16 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

SaSe's shown before that the amount of blink stalkers makes a huge difference, even if you don't have the higher-tech units.


Even without the archon breaking the forcefields in the first engagement, BBK was favoured to win this. There's no way those stalkers could've done anything vs. 3 immortals. Maybe offensive blink into probe pull, maybe.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 27 2014 21:18 GMT
#1107
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


that's interesting, I didn't know that. Is he afraid of giving something away?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 27 2014 21:19 GMT
#1108
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#1109
On March 28 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.

I definitely agree on the difference in chemistry. Who do you like ToD casting with? I like him with Rotti.
kiss kiss fall in love
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#1110
stuchiu where is your INCAAAAAA
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18565 Posts
March 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#1111
I actually think ToD + Kaelaris have great chemistry.
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
March 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#1112
On March 28 2014 06:05 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 05:58 Girondelle wrote:
I just got there, how did TLO lose?


Played badly.
Threw 50+ supply lead against Stardust by overmaking roach/hydra and not attacking and not transitioning into 2-2 Swarm Hosts but rather 0-2 Ultras.
Threw 40 supply lead against Stardust g2 by making hydra/ling instead of SHs or Mutas against Colossus/Sentry/Stalker.

Didn't transition into SHs when his roach/ling attacks stopped doing damage in g2 against Welmu, but went Mutalisks against blink stalkers instead.
Built Mutas against a Soul Train in g3 against Welmu.


Thanks ! The game must have been disappointing for TLO fans :'(
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#1113
On March 28 2014 06:20 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.

I definitely agree on the difference in chemistry. Who do you like ToD casting with? I like him with Rotti.


ToD + Qxc
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#1114
On March 28 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:20 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.

I definitely agree on the difference in chemistry. Who do you like ToD casting with? I like him with Rotti.


ToD + Qxc

idra + idra
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#1115
On March 28 2014 06:21 sharkie wrote:
I actually think ToD + Kaelaris have great chemistry.

Same here. Tod's salty persona balances well with Kaelaris''s endless optimism. So funny when they give each other shit.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#1116
On March 28 2014 06:22 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:20 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.

I definitely agree on the difference in chemistry. Who do you like ToD casting with? I like him with Rotti.


ToD + Qxc

idra + idra

Idra+Cruncher
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#1117
On March 28 2014 06:20 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.

I definitely agree on the difference in chemistry. Who do you like ToD casting with? I like him with Rotti.


I don't like Rotti's cast (except Bitterdam they're just great together) in general :/. I think ToD would work great with Take, they both could be so fun with their strong accents =)
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
March 27 2014 21:23 GMT
#1118
I like ToD. It's like ur hanging out with pro player. He just telling you what he thinks. The other guys aren't pro or even diamond?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 27 2014 21:23 GMT
#1119
On March 28 2014 06:22 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:21 sharkie wrote:
I actually think ToD + Kaelaris have great chemistry.

Same here. Tod's salty persona balances well with Kaelaris''s endless optimism. So funny when they give each other shit.

I think I like Kaelaris with almost anyone just because of his optimism. Kaelaris/IdrA was really good too.
kiss kiss fall in love
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 27 2014 21:23 GMT
#1120
On March 28 2014 06:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:20 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:19 boxerfred wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:16 y0su wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
don't know if I am wrong, but since ToD joined in and teamed up with kaelaris and apollo, the in-depth commentary sometimes is wrong. 3 immortals, 7 stalkers vs 14 stalkers, and tod says "no way those immortals can do it" - even as a terran, I say that's possible. Huge blunders IMHO :/ not used to get those from ESL commentary

I was going to say something defending him... but his refusal to give commentary on a map because of his player status does not sit well with me.


It's not like I want to say "Tod is bad" or something. I just feel like they lose grip of things. Kaelaris' play-by-play and Apollo's in-depth commentary/analytical style, with the addition of their british attitude, always made me enjoy the cast. Those subtle "hm, yep, yeah"'s from Apollo when Kaelaris tries to predict something are just great, and I seriously think that ToD + Apollo or ToD + Kaelaris miss out a lot of chemistry.

I definitely agree on the difference in chemistry. Who do you like ToD casting with? I like him with Rotti.


ToD + Qxc

Oh yea forgot about that one. That was amazing too.
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