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On March 25 2014 00:34 Dinotramp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:31 Dinotramp wrote:On March 25 2014 00:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Because it involves Take and this community is only ok with transparency when it doesn't involve people they like. I think a lot of people appreciate what Take does but he does always seem to be poor with admin type things. Today only further reinforces that point. So has anyone from Take studios contacted you at all about this sort of thing? As they should, Takes events are wonderful and he is an incredible part of this scene, which makes it even sadder when things like this happen. When you informed of this tournament, were you given a list of tight rulings that teams had to follow?
The rules are in the first post.
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On March 25 2014 00:23 Welmu wrote:
Hmm, feels pretty strange that instead of joker rule two teams can just play together as a one team and I don't really understand agencies counted as a team, aren't polt and dimaga part of CSA also? >_<
just win your game please :>
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On March 25 2014 00:34 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:33 kaykoose wrote:On March 25 2014 00:32 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On March 25 2014 00:30 kaykoose wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 Crot4le wrote:
Root have really underestimated Punchline in my opinion. With no disrespect they shouldn't send out players like Sasquatch, CatZ and Caliber over players like MaSa and Minigun. That decision could come back to bite them in the arse. Weird... CatZ and Caliber won games. And maybe those guys aren't available for whatever reason Yea, they sent out Pet for the last game. I doubt Masa and Mini are available Petraeus is looking a lot stronger than either of those two.  Just weird to see a team wanting to go with a ZvZ for the ace Well no one wants to play PvZ against Firecake 
good point lol
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On March 25 2014 00:27 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:24 Pandemona wrote:On March 25 2014 00:22 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:21 Serinox wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 kaykoose wrote:
Who played for Ai and Prop? Liqupedia bracket says its 5-2 but nothing on the actual games No one knows, wasn't streamed. They fielded a lineup of TY, Zest, herO, Maru and the jangling ghost of Heath Ledger, who returned to teach us all a valuable lesson about the true meaning of Christmas. Oh my TB is not a happy bunny ;o Going full Mourinho on this xD Can't blame him though, any other sports manager/coach/owner would do the same thing Hey I'm trying to be careful because the last time I got in a tangle with TaKe over miscommunication regarding one of his events we lost the PR war and Axioms manager got publicly crucified by Reddit. I'd rather not have that happen again, but in this case, none of the teams were made aware of what was going on in the qualifiers before they agreed to play and the rules we got don't cover what is going on right now. Yeah that is a problem. Show nested quote +As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. As someone with no stake in this what-so-ever, I would suggest you stop trying to order around those that do.
Indeed, im not taking sides as i don't have any leeway or say in anything. But im pretty sure this time Axiom will win the PR war.....
Hears hoping we get some clarification!
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So this means the final, qualifying round is no longer tomorrow?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Hahahah xD
Roger cap'n Incontrol
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On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem?
Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner.
It just adds to TL drama, that's all...
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On March 25 2014 00:37 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner. It just adds to TL drama, that's all...
We were saying the same things before TB even came into this thread
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On March 25 2014 00:37 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner. It just adds to TL drama, that's all...
It would just be adding drama if it wasn't true, but if it is true that is what is called communicating what is happening to the community. I like that shit.
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On March 25 2014 00:37 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner. It just adds to TL drama, that's all...
Oh shushh. Stop baiting.
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On March 25 2014 00:37 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner. It just adds to TL drama, that's all...
Dude all you've done in this thread is add to TL drama and you have no valid reason to. The "drama" was created by the tournament bending its own rules for the sake of viewership. Look at the root cause of what is going on.
Also how on earth ISN'T it misleading? We went into this with the firm statement that there will be no jokers and we get a bunch of jokers snuck in under the guise of something else anyway. That is misleading, there's no other way to look at it.
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Root 5-4 PunchLine! One random unexplained joker eliminated I think because people were saying stuff about Downfall earlier.
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On March 25 2014 00:37 RHoudini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner. It just adds to TL drama, that's all...
If you want to stop adding to the "TL drama" (which you are doing by the way), all the while retaining your smug sense of unwarranted superiority that every single one of your posts indicates you desperately crave, I suggest you stop posting about this and pat yourself on the back for being the bigger man or whatever.
As opposed to being the only person in the last pages of this thread who's legitimately shitting it up with worthless, meaningless posts.
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On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem?
Usually thats not the way to solve disagreements. That just makes them bigger than they are without contributing to a solution.
TakeTV lacked communication about rules and their interpretation of the rules. Thats wrong. If you dont like it, you talk to them and give them your opinion. Then you discuss options how to deal with the situation and choose one.
You dont counter miscommunication by more miscomunication. People on TL and reddit can only make people more aware of a problem but wont solve it. So its the wrong channel to adress the issues if you want to solve them.
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Damn it, I missed it because I was looking at another window (cardinal sin I suppose for any livestream). What happened?
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On March 25 2014 00:41 SpikeStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Usually thats not the way to solve disagreements. That just makes them bigger than they are without contributing to a solution. TakeTV lacked communication about rules and their interpretation of the rules. Thats wrong. If you dont like it, you talk to them and give them your opinion. Then you discuss options how to deal with the situation and choose one. You dont counter miscommunication by more miscomunication. People on TL and reddit can only make people more aware of a problem but wont solve it. So its the wrong channel to adress the issues if you want to solve them.
I would like you to point out where I have miscommunicated anything what-so-ever. Communication with Take will happen after he has finished casting, but by that point it won't matter, because they're not going to redo the qualifiers regardless of what happens.
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On March 25 2014 00:41 Spect8rCraft wrote:
Damn it, I missed it because I was looking at another window (cardinal sin I suppose for any livestream). What happened?
For the Petreaus/Firecake game? Petreaus got an early game advantage which turned into more and better upgraded mutas. He did a massive zergling runby into Firecake's third and killed all the workers there and was chasing Firecake's mutas with his own and Firecake GG'd.
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On March 25 2014 00:39 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 00:37 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:28 Crot4le wrote:On March 25 2014 00:25 RHoudini wrote:On March 25 2014 00:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 25 2014 00:16 RHoudini wrote:
Your posts in this thread just add negative vibes and drama, which is altogether unnecessary.
In this case I happen to show more empathy for the tournament organizers who want to get the largest audience possible, even if this means being flexible with the rules. Take your hypocrisy elsewhere. Hurrdurr, you just adding negativity... said directly after starting a fight with a team owner over an issue he is rightfully pissed off by. Forgive me if I don't empathize with misleading teams and sacrificing the integrity of your event for higher viewer numbers. As a team owner you should discuss this privately with the event organizers, not bitching about the situation on public forums. To the contrary, the transparency is beneficial. This is bullshit, TB is calling out the bullshit. What's your problem? Coming to the TeamLiquid LR thread to call the event organizers "misleading" and "sacrificing the integrity of the event" is never the right response from a team owner. It just adds to TL drama, that's all... Dude all you've done in this thread is add to TL drama and you have no valid reason to. The "drama" was created by the tournament bending its own rules for the sake of viewership. Look at the root cause of what is going on. Also how on earth ISN'T it misleading? We went into this with the firm statement that there will be no jokers and we get a bunch of jokers snuck in under the guise of something else anyway. That is misleading, there's no other way to look at it.
Like I said, deal with it. Like a team owner, not a random TL poster.
Complain to the tournament organizers, withdraw your team, instruct your players to play only cheese...
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