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Story found here about Naniwa vs. Polt. *Spoilers*
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/446041-naniwa-forfeits-mid-series-at-iem-katowice
http://sc2hl.com/highlight/1148
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1261
On March 14 2014 22:50 robson1 wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:49 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:47 Chewbacca. wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:46 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Hyun didn't need fight.


Well he did once he let those stalkers get that close to his hydras without scouting it out. He tried to push forward to take out the colossus and then surprised by stalkers, no way he can just outrun them when they're that close.

he had mutas he could always counterattack he doesn't need those hydras, herO wouldn't be able to attack ever, if he sends only his sentrys and collossi they are dead, if he sends all of his army his nexus is dead, if he tries to split his stalkers up, they are most likely dead. mutas are everything in base trades, hyun underestimated in the end the stalker count and attacked into them. he wasn't forced to do so.


well it's easy to analyze that after the game. But hyun has no exact stalker count and he does not know for certain that herO cannot build probes. it was a mistake sure. but people acting like it was the stupidest thing ever.

of course i am just of the opinion if he watches the replay he realizes it, it was a good game nevertheless, just feel bad for hyun
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 13:54:36
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1262
On March 14 2014 22:51 droppanda wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:
wow...I am so upset that Hyun took that fight


Why are people blaming hyun for taking that fight? What option did he have? Slowly lose hydras while he crawls away from blink stalkers?

Camping the Nexus with Mutas so Stalkers can't attack his army while the Zerg is mining, 2 Colossi(1 being on almost no HP with just shield) and 4 Sentries couldn't kill that many Hydras without Stalkers support.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1263
I see Zealously used the excitement for the game to dodge my suggestion for a date.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1264
On March 14 2014 22:52 stuchiu wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:51 coL.hendralisk wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Looks like a Soul Train.


My first thought on seeing the spawns :S

I knew that pros were good at reading games but this is amazing.


Hey, what about me!


Well he confirmed it. <3
kiss kiss fall in love
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1265
On March 14 2014 22:51 Darkhorse wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Looks like a Soul Train.

That was a quick read with no buildings down.

close spawns on Frost
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1266
On March 14 2014 22:48 vult wrote:
I think that beats Bomber vs Scarlett

I think a lot of games beat that tbh, thats imo the most overhyped (very good game still) game of 2013
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1267
On March 14 2014 22:52 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.

Yes! Without things that give Protoss a chance to win, Protoss doesn't win! Genius!

Larvae are way too strong. Zerg only wins because of them.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12492 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1268
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.


Welcome to the thread, "that one dude who will complain after this game"
No will to live, no wish to die
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1269
On March 14 2014 22:50 bo1b wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:49 VisonKai wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Interesting that we were talking about whether or not PvZ (minus SH) is a good match-up a few hours ago

I THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER


Honestly PvZ is starting to be my second favorite matchup. I think all these "PvZ sucks!" cries are just relics from 2012.


My man!

Your favorite matchup IS PvP, yes?

Filth, your favorite matchup should be tvz!


I think he just like the idea of seeing a Protoss lose.
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ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1270
On March 14 2014 22:52 kaykoose wrote:
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On March 14 2014 22:48 vult wrote:
I think that beats Bomber vs Scarlett


I have to disagree as Hyun gave this game away. Not to take away from herO as he played the ending well

But I suppose I'm biased as Bomber/Scarlett was the game that made me finally install and play SC2


Except you could make the same argument that Bomber completely gave that game away as well. So I think it's a wash. They were both incredibly tense situations making the plays in that situation that much more EPIC. I wouldn't be able to rank one over the other, but the stakes in this tournament I think you'd have to agree are much much much higher than Redbull was. But they were both incredible plays so I think they are pretty even, and it could go either way honestly.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1271
On March 14 2014 22:52 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:50 bo1b wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:49 VisonKai wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Interesting that we were talking about whether or not PvZ (minus SH) is a good match-up a few hours ago

I THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER


Honestly PvZ is starting to be my second favorite matchup. I think all these "PvZ sucks!" cries are just relics from 2012.


My man!

Your favorite matchup IS PvP, yes?

Filth, your favorite matchup should be tvz!

TvZ has gotten worse since mech happened tbh except in the hands of the absolute best korean terrans that can make harass heavy mech work.

I've got a running video of drg vs innovation from gsl
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#1272
If herO soul trains, HyuN will hold it
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#1273
On March 14 2014 22:52 Rustug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:49 Zealously wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:48 bo1b wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:47 Zealously wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:46 trias_e wrote:
Best game of the year so far?


Certainly the most tense, I'd say

Do you think so? I think hero vs jaedong g5 was more tense personally


I have to admit I only half-watched HerO vs JD while studying so I can't comment on that


Best opening series of a tournament?


Idra vs MC, Colombus 2011?

Skill-wise though, probably yes. I can't think of any others.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#1274
On March 14 2014 22:53 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.

Yes! Without things that give Protoss a chance to win, Protoss doesn't win! Genius!

Larvae are way too strong. Zerg only wins because of them.

Nerf larvae D:
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#1275
Blink all in?
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#1276
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.


Yeah? And without FF basically any early game composition besides mass zealots just gets crushed by zerglings.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 13:55:09
March 14 2014 13:54 GMT
#1277
pressure->blink push
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 14 2014 13:55 GMT
#1278
On March 14 2014 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:53 Daralii wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:52 marvellosity wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.

Yes! Without things that give Protoss a chance to win, Protoss doesn't win! Genius!

Larvae are way too strong. Zerg only wins because of them.

Nerf larvae D:

Larva speed and acceleration increased to 4
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 14 2014 13:55 GMT
#1279
On March 14 2014 22:52 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:51 droppanda wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:
wow...I am so upset that Hyun took that fight


Why are people blaming hyun for taking that fight? What option did he have? Slowly lose hydras while he crawls away from blink stalkers?

Camping the Nexus with Mutas so Stalkers can't attack his army while mining, 2 Colossi(1 being on almost no HP with just shield) and 4 Sentries couldn't kill that many Hydras without Stalkers support.


i think that 7 stalkers and a sentry could have warded of the mutas from the nexus.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 14 2014 13:55 GMT
#1280
Oh, is this a sustained all-in? Interesting
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