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Story found here about Naniwa vs. Polt. *Spoilers*
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/446041-naniwa-forfeits-mid-series-at-iem-katowice
http://sc2hl.com/highlight/1148
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1241
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.



You need skill for blink & FF to really make a difference...
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1242
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.


Nothing but a solid "no".

Blink didn't win or lose anything, Hyun made a mistake and got punished
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1243
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.


Without zergling speed herO wins that game easily
AdministratorBreak the chains
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1244
On March 14 2014 22:51 Panozen wrote:
Hyun with these muta throws god damned, if he put those minerals in any other unit barring drones he would have won game 1 and 4

Mutas are for Hyun what swarmhosts are for Jaedong?
Neosteel Enthusiast
Panozen
Profile Joined August 2013
248 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1245
On March 14 2014 22:50 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:49 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:47 Chewbacca. wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:46 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Hyun didn't need fight.


Well he did once he let those stalkers get that close to his hydras without scouting it out. He tried to push forward to take out the colossus and then surprised by stalkers, no way he can just outrun them when they're that close.

he had mutas he could always counterattack he doesn't need those hydras, herO wouldn't be able to attack ever, if he sends only his sentrys and collossi they are dead, if he sends all of his army his nexus is dead, if he tries to split his stalkers up, they are most likely dead. mutas are everything in base trades, hyun underestimated in the end the stalker count and attacked into them. he wasn't forced to do so.


well it's easy to analyze that after the game. But hyun has no exact stalker count and he does not know for certain that herO cannot build probes. it was a mistake sure. but people acting like it was the stupidest thing ever.


He did know herO didn't have any pylons and about 60 army supply
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1246
On March 14 2014 22:51 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Looks like a Soul Train.


My first thought on seeing the spawns :S

I knew that pros were good at reading games but this is amazing.
kiss kiss fall in love
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1247
On March 14 2014 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Looks like a Soul Train.

That was a quick read with no buildings down.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 14 2014 13:51 GMT
#1248
On March 14 2014 22:50 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:49 VisonKai wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Interesting that we were talking about whether or not PvZ (minus SH) is a good match-up a few hours ago

I THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER


Honestly PvZ is starting to be my second favorite matchup. I think all these "PvZ sucks!" cries are just relics from 2012.


My man!

Your favorite matchup IS PvP, yes?

Filth, your favorite matchup should be tvz!


T v Z or T v T are the only answer for first/second!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1249
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.


yeah and lings are 70% worse than in WoL, although they are not different at all.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1250
On March 14 2014 22:49 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:47 Chewbacca. wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:46 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Hyun didn't need fight.


Well he did once he let those stalkers get that close to his hydras without scouting it out. He tried to push forward to take out the colossus and then surprised by stalkers, no way he can just outrun them when they're that close.

he had mutas he could always counterattack he doesn't need those hydras, herO wouldn't be able to attack ever, if he sends only his sentrys and collossi they are dead, if he sends all of his army his nexus is dead, if he tries to split his stalkers up, they are most likely dead. mutas are everything in base trades, hyun underestimated in the end the stalker count and attacked into them. he wasn't forced to do so.


Hyun absolutely fucked that up and he should of won, but once it got to the situation of Hero's army near his I don't think he had much of a choice. He didn't really have enough mutas to be able to lose all his hydras and still just win a straight up man fight vs 5-6 stalkers + a sentry
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1251
On March 14 2014 22:51 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Looks like a Soul Train.


My first thought on seeing the spawns :S


Yep.
Moderator
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1252
On March 14 2014 22:48 vult wrote:
I think that beats Bomber vs Scarlett


I have to disagree as Hyun gave this game away. Not to take away from herO as he played the ending well

But I suppose I'm biased as Bomber/Scarlett was the game that made me finally install and play SC2
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1253
Nexus first I like it. Oh man i'm still shaking after that last game. WOW. I thought for sure herO was done, I already started tearing up a little :'( Can't handle this omgggg
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1254
On March 14 2014 22:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:48 bo1b wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:47 Zealously wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:46 trias_e wrote:
Best game of the year so far?


Certainly the most tense, I'd say

Do you think so? I think hero vs jaedong g5 was more tense personally


I have to admit I only half-watched HerO vs JD while studying so I can't comment on that


Best opening series of a tournament?
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1255
On March 14 2014 22:51 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:50 bo1b wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:49 VisonKai wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Interesting that we were talking about whether or not PvZ (minus SH) is a good match-up a few hours ago

I THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER


Honestly PvZ is starting to be my second favorite matchup. I think all these "PvZ sucks!" cries are just relics from 2012.


My man!

Your favorite matchup IS PvP, yes?

Filth, your favorite matchup should be tvz!


T v Z or T v T are the only answer for first/second!

:D
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1256
On March 14 2014 22:50 Dingodile wrote:
blink is way too strong as in WoL if it is even. Without it Hyun won it easily.
I just dont like that FF or blink is the make the difference between rape and get a rape.

Yes! Without things that give Protoss a chance to win, Protoss doesn't win! Genius!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1257
On March 14 2014 22:50 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:49 VisonKai wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:48 Zealously wrote:
Interesting that we were talking about whether or not PvZ (minus SH) is a good match-up a few hours ago

I THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER


Honestly PvZ is starting to be my second favorite matchup. I think all these "PvZ sucks!" cries are just relics from 2012.


My man!

Your favorite matchup IS PvP, yes?

Filth, your favorite matchup should be tvz!

TvZ has gotten worse since mech happened tbh except in the hands of the absolute best korean terrans that can make harass heavy mech work.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1258
Oh nevermind three hatch right off the bat and close spawns. Soul train maybe.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1259
On March 14 2014 22:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 22:51 coL.hendralisk wrote:
On March 14 2014 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Looks like a Soul Train.


My first thought on seeing the spawns :S

I knew that pros were good at reading games but this is amazing.


Hey, what about me!
Moderator
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
March 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#1260
Are they playing all the round of 16 matches today? At what time will they finish? o.o
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