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Story found here about Naniwa vs. Polt. *Spoilers*
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/446041-naniwa-forfeits-mid-series-at-iem-katowice
http://sc2hl.com/highlight/1148
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#3261
On March 15 2014 01:50 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:48 TheDougler wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:05 VisonKai wrote:
Can we start up a Zealously Mental Health fund after they showed this series, and not only did they show it but they showed it over Rogue vs Life?


I know I'm late to the party, but pretty much this. This is shittier for the fans of Naniwa than anyone else. What a disgrace Naniwa is today. He's played some good games and great series in his time, and he's no doubt earned respect for his gameplay, but in the end he chose to follow in the footsteps of Idra rather than Stephano it seems like. It's a damn shame. Least we still have Scarlett.

You can't be serious here, the double standard is astounding. Stephano was king of not respecting opponents, fans and opposition. Though that title should probably go to Naniwa after this...

You think stephano's retirement game was in anyway similar to this?
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#3262
On March 15 2014 01:50 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:48 TheDougler wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:05 VisonKai wrote:
Can we start up a Zealously Mental Health fund after they showed this series, and not only did they show it but they showed it over Rogue vs Life?


I know I'm late to the party, but pretty much this. This is shittier for the fans of Naniwa than anyone else. What a disgrace Naniwa is today. He's played some good games and great series in his time, and he's no doubt earned respect for his gameplay, but in the end he chose to follow in the footsteps of Idra rather than Stephano it seems like. It's a damn shame. Least we still have Scarlett.

You can't be serious here, the double standard is astounding. Stephano was king of not respecting opponents, fans and opposition. Though that title should probably go to Naniwa after this...

you're right, it's a double standard, but stephano has a sort of charisma that idra and naniwa don't. stephano's bm always seemed like it had a cheeky smile behind it. naniwa and idra are just angry people

is it right? probably not. but for me, stephano has a way of making people feel good even if he's disrespecting them, if that makes any sense

as a tournament organizer i would probably feel differently
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#3263
On March 15 2014 01:50 Faruko wrote:
Dear, another one hit wonder of sc2, get in line son, those come in big numbers in this game


One hit wonder

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Global_Finals
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.232_.28Ro16.29

I don't know man
AdministratorBreak the chains
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#3264
On March 15 2014 01:50 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:48 TheDougler wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:05 VisonKai wrote:
Can we start up a Zealously Mental Health fund after they showed this series, and not only did they show it but they showed it over Rogue vs Life?


I know I'm late to the party, but pretty much this. This is shittier for the fans of Naniwa than anyone else. What a disgrace Naniwa is today. He's played some good games and great series in his time, and he's no doubt earned respect for his gameplay, but in the end he chose to follow in the footsteps of Idra rather than Stephano it seems like. It's a damn shame. Least we still have Scarlett.

You can't be serious here, the double standard is astounding. Stephano was king of not respecting opponents, fans and opposition. Though that title should probably go to Naniwa after this...

But look at how they left the scene. Idra said, "you're a bunch of fucks" to the fans, Naniwa did this, but Stephano at least left with class haha.
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DaedricTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom94 Posts
March 14 2014 16:53 GMT
#3265
On March 15 2014 01:51 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:49 MavivaM wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 TheAnarchy wrote:
I wonder if the comunity will act the same way if dear o taeja forfeits.

People were upset when TaeJa forfeited WCS AM Challenger but it's a lot lower profile of a tournament so it wasn't as much backlash

Stephano vs BratOk will always be the pinnacle of unsportmanship in my heart, and that's why the proberush or this Nani bollock does not faze me.
At least these were out of annoyance or something like that, BratOk vs Stephano was purely vicious and opportunistic.
And people here were laughing

Fuck that

Was that the 1base bc rush vs proxy spine crawler?

If so that's completely different as winning would put them in a much worse position, and that was very much acknowledged and they tried to put on a show


You should perhaps learn what sportsmanship is, I'll give you a hint, no it's far worse to lose on purpose to get a better match up then it is to forfeit.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 14 2014 16:53 GMT
#3266
On March 15 2014 01:52 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:50 Faruko wrote:
Dear, another one hit wonder of sc2, get in line son, those come in big numbers in this game


One hit wonder

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Global_Finals
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.232_.28Ro16.29

I don't know man


He's Protoss, therefore one hit wonder because of his race?
In Inca we trust
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
March 14 2014 16:53 GMT
#3267
The funniest is that Dear isn't done yet...
It's good to be back
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3268
On March 15 2014 01:53 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:52 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:50 Faruko wrote:
Dear, another one hit wonder of sc2, get in line son, those come in big numbers in this game


One hit wonder

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Global_Finals
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.232_.28Ro16.29

I don't know man


He's Protoss, therefore one hit wonder because of his race?

I think his assertion that Dear is a one hit wonder is stupid but he didn't say anything about Dear being protoss.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3269
On March 15 2014 01:50 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:49 Waise wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:49 TheAnarchy wrote:
Is just me or it would be nice to have interview of nani explaining his behavior and how he feels

i don't think now is the time. he would just make himself look worse. give him time to cool down

guaranteed someone will interview him. it's happened with idra all the time


He'll be the same asshole now as he will in a few days when he "cools down". I would rather never hear from him again in any way related to SC or eSports.

i've seen him say that he regrets saying stupid things before. i've seen him do decent interviews. so my factual experience trumps your opinion of him. keep in mind i'm by no means a naniwa fan or supporter

if you think someone is an asshole, the only way to absolutely guarantee they never change is by treating them like an asshole
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3270
On March 15 2014 01:53 DaedricTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:51 bo1b wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:49 MavivaM wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 TheAnarchy wrote:
I wonder if the comunity will act the same way if dear o taeja forfeits.

People were upset when TaeJa forfeited WCS AM Challenger but it's a lot lower profile of a tournament so it wasn't as much backlash

Stephano vs BratOk will always be the pinnacle of unsportmanship in my heart, and that's why the proberush or this Nani bollock does not faze me.
At least these were out of annoyance or something like that, BratOk vs Stephano was purely vicious and opportunistic.
And people here were laughing

Fuck that

Was that the 1base bc rush vs proxy spine crawler?

If so that's completely different as winning would put them in a much worse position, and that was very much acknowledged and they tried to put on a show


You should perhaps learn what sportsmanship is, I'll give you a hint, no it's far worse to lose on purpose to get a better match up then it is to forfeit.


You should probably not watch the NBA
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3271
On March 15 2014 01:51 R1CH wrote:
HerO looking confident and as handsome as ever <3


YEA!!!! I AM so stoked for him! Woot woot!
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3272
On March 15 2014 01:52 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:50 Faruko wrote:
Dear, another one hit wonder of sc2, get in line son, those come in big numbers in this game


One hit wonder

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Global_Finals
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.232_.28Ro16.29

I don't know man

don't forget he still got 2nd at ASUS ROG even if it wasn't his most convincing performance
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3273
On March 15 2014 01:52 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:50 Mikau wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:48 TheDougler wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:05 VisonKai wrote:
Can we start up a Zealously Mental Health fund after they showed this series, and not only did they show it but they showed it over Rogue vs Life?


I know I'm late to the party, but pretty much this. This is shittier for the fans of Naniwa than anyone else. What a disgrace Naniwa is today. He's played some good games and great series in his time, and he's no doubt earned respect for his gameplay, but in the end he chose to follow in the footsteps of Idra rather than Stephano it seems like. It's a damn shame. Least we still have Scarlett.

You can't be serious here, the double standard is astounding. Stephano was king of not respecting opponents, fans and opposition. Though that title should probably go to Naniwa after this...

But look at how they left the scene. Idra said, "you're a bunch of fucks" to the fans, Naniwa did this, but Stephano at least left with class haha.

Plus Stephano maintains a good relationship with a ton of players. If it was really super BM, you'd think all those players would have nothing to do with him like how nearly everyone treats Naniwa.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3274
On March 15 2014 01:53 Lazzi wrote:
The funniest is that Dear isn't done yet...


Yeah I know it's like the thread forgot this isn't the bo1 round
Wat
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3275
On March 15 2014 01:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:53 las91 wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:52 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:50 Faruko wrote:
Dear, another one hit wonder of sc2, get in line son, those come in big numbers in this game


One hit wonder

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Global_Finals
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S#Group_Stage_.232_.28Ro16.29

I don't know man


He's Protoss, therefore one hit wonder because of his race?

I think his assertion that Dear is a one hit wonder is stupid but he didn't say anything about Dear being protoss.


Idk, just a suspicion
In Inca we trust
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3276
On March 15 2014 01:51 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:49 MavivaM wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 TheAnarchy wrote:
I wonder if the comunity will act the same way if dear o taeja forfeits.

People were upset when TaeJa forfeited WCS AM Challenger but it's a lot lower profile of a tournament so it wasn't as much backlash

Stephano vs BratOk will always be the pinnacle of unsportmanship in my heart, and that's why the proberush or this Nani bollock does not faze me.
At least these were out of annoyance or something like that, BratOk vs Stephano was purely vicious and opportunistic.
And people here were laughing

Fuck that

Was that the 1base bc rush vs proxy spine crawler?

If so that's completely different as winning would put them in a much worse position, and that was very much acknowledged and they tried to put on a show

And that's exactly why I despise it more, because not one bullshit game, but a whole, completely fake bo3 that culminated in a forfeit in-game.
One may say that it was because the tourney system was flawed and I don't see any difference between what was behind Naniwa vs Nestea (and this time it's not really different. If you want I can add some by PM since I'd rather avoid keep bringing up the subject in the thread) at GSL
A bullshit series that couldn't get any more fake or a stupid game led by a tantrum.

Personally I hate more the first one.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
March 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#3277
On March 15 2014 01:43 VisonKai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 TheAnarchy wrote:
I wonder if the comunity will act the same way if dear o taeja forfeits.

People were upset when TaeJa forfeited WCS AM Challenger but it's a lot lower profile of a tournament so it wasn't as much backlash


Did he forfeit in the middle of the series tho?

Remember when Demuslim and Major forfeited in Shoutcraft America? That was in the middle of the series as well and people didn't rage this much.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#3278
On March 15 2014 01:53 DaedricTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:51 bo1b wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:49 MavivaM wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 TheAnarchy wrote:
I wonder if the comunity will act the same way if dear o taeja forfeits.

People were upset when TaeJa forfeited WCS AM Challenger but it's a lot lower profile of a tournament so it wasn't as much backlash

Stephano vs BratOk will always be the pinnacle of unsportmanship in my heart, and that's why the proberush or this Nani bollock does not faze me.
At least these were out of annoyance or something like that, BratOk vs Stephano was purely vicious and opportunistic.
And people here were laughing

Fuck that

Was that the 1base bc rush vs proxy spine crawler?

If so that's completely different as winning would put them in a much worse position, and that was very much acknowledged and they tried to put on a show


You should perhaps learn what sportsmanship is, I'll give you a hint, no it's far worse to lose on purpose to get a better match up then it is to forfeit.

In a series where both players were clearly trying to lose then taking that series with anything but the contempt it deserves is pretty funny.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#3279
IEM Katowice - Ro16

Match 4 - (P)Dear vs. (P)HerO

Game 2 - Polar Night

00:00 - Dear Spawns Top, Hero spawns Bottom



Zerg for Life
DaedricTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom94 Posts
March 14 2014 16:55 GMT
#3280
On March 15 2014 01:54 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:53 DaedricTV wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:51 bo1b wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:49 MavivaM wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:42 Shellshock wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:41 TheAnarchy wrote:
I wonder if the comunity will act the same way if dear o taeja forfeits.

People were upset when TaeJa forfeited WCS AM Challenger but it's a lot lower profile of a tournament so it wasn't as much backlash

Stephano vs BratOk will always be the pinnacle of unsportmanship in my heart, and that's why the proberush or this Nani bollock does not faze me.
At least these were out of annoyance or something like that, BratOk vs Stephano was purely vicious and opportunistic.
And people here were laughing

Fuck that

Was that the 1base bc rush vs proxy spine crawler?

If so that's completely different as winning would put them in a much worse position, and that was very much acknowledged and they tried to put on a show


You should perhaps learn what sportsmanship is, I'll give you a hint, no it's far worse to lose on purpose to get a better match up then it is to forfeit.


You should probably not watch the NBA


I don't watch terrible sports, sorry.
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