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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#1301
On March 07 2014 06:59 sharkie wrote:
we could have 6 Koreans in the Ro8

What are everyone's predictions?
x/6?

What is x?

I go with 6. Yep.
Get off my lawn, young punks
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
March 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#1302
wow that group A
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#1303
Also, what kind of sorcery is this, Team Liquid players are not in the same groups?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#1304
On March 07 2014 06:59 sharkie wrote:
we could have 6 Koreans in the Ro8

What are everyone's predictions?
x/6?

What is x?


I think 5. There isn't really a weak Korean in the Ro16, and there isn't a group where the Korean isn't a favorite. I say 5 simply due to variance
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
March 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#1305
Nerchio - time to say sorry to swarm hosts?

On March 07 2014 06:56 deacon.frost wrote:
So I guess Nerchio loves P, that is the story behind "MC vs Nerchio, bwahahaha"?


Back in 2012 when Nerchio was in his prime they had a few high profile, quality matches. Initially MC would have the upper hand but later Nerchio turned the tide - most notably in Homestory cup which he later won. This combined with their reputation created a small rivalry.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 06 2014 22:03 GMT
#1306
According to Aligulac, Bunny's weakest matchup is TvT.
Vortix best is TvZ but he is 3-7 against MMA so it looks like Bunny is screwed but Vortix can maybe upset Mvp or MMA, although I would favor both of them after their recent TvZ games.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 06 2014 22:04 GMT
#1307
On March 07 2014 07:02 stardog wrote:
Nerchio - time to say sorry to swarm hosts?

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 06:56 deacon.frost wrote:
So I guess Nerchio loves P, that is the story behind "MC vs Nerchio, bwahahaha"?


Back in 2012 when Nerchio was in his prime they had a few high profile, quality matches. Initially MC would have the upper hand but later Nerchio turned the tide - most notably in Homestory cup which he later won. This combined with their reputation created a small rivalry.

Thank you :-)

I remember just one thing from HSC - and that is MC showing the Carriers in the lategame PvZ and crushing Blord infestor(aty least I think it was HSC)(also Nightend's voice )
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 06 2014 22:04 GMT
#1308
On March 07 2014 07:00 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 06:59 Xoronius wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:57 Bagration wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:55 Shellshock wrote:
I think Group D has an argument for Group of Death with the way MC and San have been playing and Nerchio being one of the best foreigners left


Group A is a bit overrated I feel. MMA didn't look that strong today, and Bunny and Vortex aren't the highest level foreigners (yet). It's mainly the rivalry that draws attention, and the fact that you have the two winningest Terran players of SC2.

I think both Bunny and Vortix could be called the best foreigners of their respective races. It´s surely arguable and I personally would´nt say so, but it is´nt that far away either.


It would be a very very difficult argument to make for both of them.

But still an argument worth debating over. I could´nt determine, who is really better then them. For T I guess Happy is still the number 1 and Bunny/Dayshi/MajOr/Heromarine are close behind, but for Z I don´t see a clear favorite; Vortix, Scarlett and Nerchio are all pretty much on one level atm.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
March 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#1309
Starbuck. T_T
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 06 2014 22:08 GMT
#1310
nothing makes me feel more warm and fuzzy than Mvp vs MMA. I started watching SC2 in October 2011, their GSL finals was one of the first matches I ever saw.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
March 06 2014 22:09 GMT
#1311
On March 07 2014 06:37 SmoKim wrote:
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES, MMA MMA MMA MMA!!!



Awesome games today, lots of wierd, tense shit going on all the time :D



Lmao this is a great video.

Crank is really funny.
YoloSwaggins
Profile Joined November 2013
Austria236 Posts
March 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#1312
On March 07 2014 07:04 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 07:02 stardog wrote:
Nerchio - time to say sorry to swarm hosts?

On March 07 2014 06:56 deacon.frost wrote:
So I guess Nerchio loves P, that is the story behind "MC vs Nerchio, bwahahaha"?


Back in 2012 when Nerchio was in his prime they had a few high profile, quality matches. Initially MC would have the upper hand but later Nerchio turned the tide - most notably in Homestory cup which he later won. This combined with their reputation created a small rivalry.

Thank you :-)

I remember just one thing from HSC - and that is MC showing the Carriers in the lategame PvZ and crushing Blord infestor(aty least I think it was HSC)(also Nightend's voice )


MC had a 1-6 record vs nerchio in that era.. wasn't pretty, and this was shortly after MC had probably the best pvz in the world
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 06 2014 22:11 GMT
#1313
On March 07 2014 07:04 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 07:00 Bagration wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:59 Xoronius wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:57 Bagration wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:55 Shellshock wrote:
I think Group D has an argument for Group of Death with the way MC and San have been playing and Nerchio being one of the best foreigners left


Group A is a bit overrated I feel. MMA didn't look that strong today, and Bunny and Vortex aren't the highest level foreigners (yet). It's mainly the rivalry that draws attention, and the fact that you have the two winningest Terran players of SC2.

I think both Bunny and Vortix could be called the best foreigners of their respective races. It´s surely arguable and I personally would´nt say so, but it is´nt that far away either.


It would be a very very difficult argument to make for both of them.

But still an argument worth debating over. I could´nt determine, who is really better then them. For T I guess Happy is still the number 1 and Bunny/Dayshi/MajOr/Heromarine are close behind, but for Z I don´t see a clear favorite; Vortix, Scarlett and Nerchio are all pretty much on one level atm.


I don't know, there's also Snute and maybe TLO for foreign Zergs, then there are the Chinese Zergs as well. It's a really tough cal, because among foreign Terrans there are so few results and accomplishments among them. Happy is probably the best, and Scarlett is the top foreign Zerg.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12407 Posts
March 06 2014 22:12 GMT
#1314
Looks like San hits a terran in Ro8 though, that's annoying :/ I guess they could pair C&D but they usually don't do that.
No will to live, no wish to die
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 06 2014 22:20 GMT
#1315
On March 07 2014 07:11 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 07:04 Xoronius wrote:
On March 07 2014 07:00 Bagration wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:59 Xoronius wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:57 Bagration wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:55 Shellshock wrote:
I think Group D has an argument for Group of Death with the way MC and San have been playing and Nerchio being one of the best foreigners left


Group A is a bit overrated I feel. MMA didn't look that strong today, and Bunny and Vortex aren't the highest level foreigners (yet). It's mainly the rivalry that draws attention, and the fact that you have the two winningest Terran players of SC2.

I think both Bunny and Vortix could be called the best foreigners of their respective races. It´s surely arguable and I personally would´nt say so, but it is´nt that far away either.


It would be a very very difficult argument to make for both of them.

But still an argument worth debating over. I could´nt determine, who is really better then them. For T I guess Happy is still the number 1 and Bunny/Dayshi/MajOr/Heromarine are close behind, but for Z I don´t see a clear favorite; Vortix, Scarlett and Nerchio are all pretty much on one level atm.


I don't know, there's also Snute and maybe TLO for foreign Zergs, then there are the Chinese Zergs as well. It's a really tough cal, because among foreign Terrans there are so few results and accomplishments among them. Happy is probably the best, and Scarlett is the top foreign Zerg.

Yeah, TLO/Snute/Xigua/toodming are probably in the running as well. But I could´nt really put them ahead of Vortix either. Like I said, it is a pretty open position atm. and Vortix is one of the contenders to take it.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 22:24:35
March 06 2014 22:23 GMT
#1316
If anybody is interested, here's what Aligulac has to say:
+ Show Spoiler +

Group A
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Mvp 77.67% 47.44% 30.23% 13.39% 8.94%
MMA 57.61% 25.99% 31.61% 24.93% 17.47%
VortiX 39.37% 16.63% 22.74% 30.33% 30.30%
Bunny 25.36% 9.94% 15.41% 31.35% 43.29%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group B
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
jjakji 92.31% 68.98% 23.33% 4.84% 2.85%
Dayshi 47.24% 13.39% 33.85% 30.88% 21.87%
Snute 41.15% 11.79% 29.36% 35.66% 23.19%
Grubby 19.30% 5.84% 13.46% 28.61% 52.08%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group C
                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
StarDust 81.15% 48.95% 32.20% 11.98% 6.87%
Welmu 66.83% 32.12% 34.71% 20.39% 12.78%
TLO 30.69% 11.17% 19.52% 35.35% 33.96%
BabyKnight 21.32% 7.76% 13.57% 32.29% 46.39%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group D
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
San 82.32% 49.58% 32.75% 11.41% 6.26%
MC 67.39% 31.81% 35.59% 19.88% 12.73%
BlinG 23.88% 10.01% 13.87% 29.50% 46.62%
Nerchio 26.41% 8.61% 17.79% 39.20% 34.39%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.



Which by the way means that in groups B, C & D my favourites are supposed to be the worst. Oh, well.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12407 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 22:25:53
March 06 2014 22:25 GMT
#1317
Seems unfair to Grubby. He's not a favourite that's for sure but he's pretty low for someone that has beaten Jjakji in the past.

Also Bling ahead of Nerchio feels strange.
No will to live, no wish to die
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17726 Posts
March 06 2014 22:26 GMT
#1318
On March 07 2014 07:23 Ufnal wrote:
If anybody is interested, here's what Aligulac has to say:
+ Show Spoiler +

Group A
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Mvp 77.67% 47.44% 30.23% 13.39% 8.94%
MMA 57.61% 25.99% 31.61% 24.93% 17.47%
VortiX 39.37% 16.63% 22.74% 30.33% 30.30%
Bunny 25.36% 9.94% 15.41% 31.35% 43.29%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group B
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
jjakji 92.31% 68.98% 23.33% 4.84% 2.85%
Dayshi 47.24% 13.39% 33.85% 30.88% 21.87%
Snute 41.15% 11.79% 29.36% 35.66% 23.19%
Grubby 19.30% 5.84% 13.46% 28.61% 52.08%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group C
                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
StarDust 81.15% 48.95% 32.20% 11.98% 6.87%
Welmu 66.83% 32.12% 34.71% 20.39% 12.78%
TLO 30.69% 11.17% 19.52% 35.35% 33.96%
BabyKnight 21.32% 7.76% 13.57% 32.29% 46.39%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group D
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
San 82.32% 49.58% 32.75% 11.41% 6.26%
MC 67.39% 31.81% 35.59% 19.88% 12.73%
BlinG 23.88% 10.01% 13.87% 29.50% 46.62%
Nerchio 26.41% 8.61% 17.79% 39.20% 34.39%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.



Which by the way means that in groups B, C & D my favourites are supposed to be the worst. Oh, well.


omg dat Jjakji lol
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Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
March 06 2014 22:29 GMT
#1319
On March 07 2014 07:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Seems unfair to Grubby. He's not a favourite that's for sure but he's pretty low for someone that has beaten Jjakji in the past.

Also Bling ahead of Nerchio feels strange.


Well, Aligulac has Jjakji as no 1 in the world and in TvP, with 2130 and 2108 points respectively, while Grubby's points are 1474 overall and 1449 vT. Even taking into account that all those numbers are +/- 100-150, it's still a lot. But I believe in Grubby nevertheless. :D

As for Bling, he's slightly ahead in his 1st place chances, but way down in 2nd and 3rd, but Aligulac still decided to put him ahead of Nerchio. O.o
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 06 2014 22:32 GMT
#1320
Group A definitely has my attention the most (having two Korean acronym terrans)... However I don't think that's enough to call it the group of death (as they are all solid groups).

Group D, is similar to A where you have two very high profile Koreans who are likely to advance, but it's still not the GoD... I think to have a real group of death you need at leat 3 (if not all 4) that have a strong case on paper.

I think B is pretty good in that regard. We have a Korean and 3 solid EU players. However, don't think there's quite the proper level of death here.

Which leads to what I think IS the group of death; GROUP C! TLO has one matchup to prepare for and if anyone can come up with a few different surprise builds I have faith in him. BBK, Welmu and SD may not be the top names, but when you consider that there's 3 strong PvP players in this group it suddenly becomes quite cutthroat (I don't feel the same about the 3 protoss in D).

Predictions:

a, MMA > MVP > Bunny > Vortix
b, Jjakji > Snute > Dayshi > Grubby
c, Stardust > Welmu > TLO > BabyKnight
d, San > MC > Nerchio > Bling

(I don't actually know the match order so that could change how a feel about some of the 2nd/3rd placements)

Solid groups. Can't wait!
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