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On March 24 2014 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 03:46 Green_25 wrote:
I've literally never used adblock, never understood why you'd screw the people who are giving you what is still essentially free entertainment There's 3 types of adblockers. 1) The responsible adblocker who adblocks sites he doesn't trust for security concerns and whitelists everything he watches on a regular basis. This guy is cool and should not be condemned for his actions. 2) The asshole adblocker. He adblocks everything and then brags about it on the internet. Probably owns a Guy Fawkes mask, thinks he is a revolutionary. 3) The deluded adblocker. Same as above but makes excuses like "consumer choice" and "security" while adblocking every site, including those who have proven trustworthy and reasonable. I'm trying to figure out if I prefer 2 or 3, I think at least with 2 he's being honest so I gotta respect that a bit more.
Long story short: streaming lives from a certain business model which appears to be "free" to the customer which it isn't.
You don't pay money, but pay via time watching ads. There is no law or anything else that enforces the customer to not use adblock. On TV (not talking about pay tv obviously) it's the same, except there simply is no adblock. I can understand the decision to block the stream for adblockers, it's just natural. I deactivated adblock for TL, got pissed cause of the ads, went TL+. Then again, I gotta admit I'm the lazy guy. I turned it off for several streams such as take, but it happens quite often that I turn on a stream and got adblock on. MLG puts a reminder on that (I dislike the text though, it's kind like "oops, what a damn accident, you forgot to turn adblock off, oh you" instead of being honest "dude turn it off we wanna make money" which is what it translates to), and noone should blame them for that.
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On March 24 2014 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 03:46 Green_25 wrote:
I've literally never used adblock, never understood why you'd screw the people who are giving you what is still essentially free entertainment There's 3 types of adblockers. 1) The responsible adblocker who adblocks sites he doesn't trust for security concerns and whitelists everything he watches on a regular basis. This guy is cool and should not be condemned for his actions. 2) The asshole adblocker. He adblocks everything and then brags about it on the internet. Probably owns a Guy Fawkes mask, thinks he is a revolutionary. 3) The deluded adblocker. Same as above but makes excuses like "consumer choice" and "security" while adblocking every site, including those who have proven trustworthy and reasonable. I'm trying to figure out if I prefer 2 or 3, I think at least with 2 he's being honest so I gotta respect that a bit more.
There's also 4) "every time an ad is played, the stream crashes" which, unfortounatley isn't that rare, especially with the MLG player. I had quite some issues on my xubuntu system. I'm not sure why this happens, but every time an add starts flash player crashes and i have to restart the stream. (Though most of the time i'm watching on my main system, where it doesn't happen  )
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Looks like some seriously sick games have been played! Thank you TotalBiscuit for cooking this up!
Unfortunately, I cannot watch this, MLG stream simply never loads up for me, period. Which is weird, I have no problem with any other stream, be it on twitch or somewhere else.
GL HF to everyone for future games!
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On March 24 2014 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 03:46 Green_25 wrote:
I've literally never used adblock, never understood why you'd screw the people who are giving you what is still essentially free entertainment There's 3 types of adblockers. 1) The responsible adblocker who adblocks sites he doesn't trust for security concerns and whitelists everything he watches on a regular basis. This guy is cool and should not be condemned for his actions. 2) The asshole adblocker. He adblocks everything and then brags about it on the internet. Probably owns a Guy Fawkes mask, thinks he is a revolutionary. 3) The deluded adblocker. Same as above but makes excuses like "consumer choice" and "security" while adblocking every site, including those who have proven trustworthy and reasonable.I'm trying to figure out if I prefer 2 or 3, I think at least with 2 he's being honest so I gotta respect that a bit more.
Isn't it pointless to have addblock, but let 90% of the adds go through because I've white-listed the content I watch the most?
I personally block every adds (not even with addblock, but my own blacklist) for three reasons :
1. Better looking internet : I like not being distracted while reading/watching content
2. Save time : This one is more for adds before vids, but I feel frustrating and sometime I don't have time to go through a 2 minute commercial, not mentioning some flash-adds that actually slow down my browser or the loading of a site.
3. Save bandwidth : I don't have infinite data and it cost an arm to get it where I live. Blocking all solicitations frees enough download for me to watch a full Shoutcraft 720p.
When there some content I really like, I much prefer simply donating directly to the content producer (yes I'm a minority) than lowering the quality of my daily browsing just so you get half a cent at the end of the year (and google another half and knows I like gaming content...). The part you say "trustworthy and reasonable", well reasonable is relative and for me most aren't and I've no mean to know if it's really trustworthy.
I'd agree with no. 2 and 3, being a dick about producer trying to get revenue or throwing bullish and bragging about security isn't productive for anyone. And TBH blocking add for security isn't the best way to achieve security anyway.
But you must think that a majority of people that have addblockers have it either for comfort or because their friends told them to install addblock, ccleaner, antivirus x... and they simply doesn't care thereafter.
Anyway thank for the entertaining content, I just wish it could be on twitch instead of MLG because the MLG player works only 10% of the time, addblocking or not, and the quality is really bad and pixelated. Now I don't watch live and wait for the Vod.
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On March 24 2014 08:52 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 08:13 nkr wrote:
Hell, even GSL plays ads in the middle of tastosis pre-game banter :/ makes me want to adblock them I'd say almost all of that are errors. I never run ads during actual content, only during breaks, but sometimes we've had some bugs on MLG.tv that have caused ads to trigger hwen I didn't ask them to. That's highest priority for fixing imho. There's nothing more annoying than that.
The annoying thing to me isn't really that ads exist but that the player unmutes itself when running ads and blares sounds when you're doing something entirely different and you can't even mute the ads. Even on TV that's possible and reliable.
If I'm watching multiple streams I don't want to deal with one stream playing loud ads while I'm trying to watch a tournament game. That's why I closed your stream entirely yesterday and focused on watching the Vasacast Invitational instead of trying to juggle both streams.
You probably don't care about me as a single viewer, but I assume more people have similar issues. I don't mind ads per se, I even stay and watch them sometimes, but if they prevent me from doing anything else while they're running at all times, I'll just close the stream.
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On March 24 2014 17:38 varsovie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 24 2014 03:46 Green_25 wrote:
I've literally never used adblock, never understood why you'd screw the people who are giving you what is still essentially free entertainment There's 3 types of adblockers. 1) The responsible adblocker who adblocks sites he doesn't trust for security concerns and whitelists everything he watches on a regular basis. This guy is cool and should not be condemned for his actions. 2) The asshole adblocker. He adblocks everything and then brags about it on the internet. Probably owns a Guy Fawkes mask, thinks he is a revolutionary. 3) The deluded adblocker. Same as above but makes excuses like "consumer choice" and "security" while adblocking every site, including those who have proven trustworthy and reasonable.I'm trying to figure out if I prefer 2 or 3, I think at least with 2 he's being honest so I gotta respect that a bit more. Isn't it pointless to have addblock, but let 90% of the adds go through because I've white-listed the content I watch the most? I personally block every adds (not even with addblock, but my own blacklist) for three reasons : 1. Better looking internet : I like not being distracted while reading/watching content 2. Save time : This one is more for adds before vids, but I feel frustrating and sometime I don't have time to go through a 2 minute commercial, not mentioning some flash-adds that actually slow down my browser or the loading of a site. 3. Save bandwidth : I don't have infinite data and it cost an arm to get it where I live. Blocking all solicitations frees enough download for me to watch a full Shoutcraft 720p. When there some content I really like, I much prefer simply donating directly to the content producer (yes I'm a minority) than lowering the quality of my daily browsing just so you get half a cent at the end of the year (and google another half and knows I like gaming content...). The part you say "trustworthy and reasonable", well reasonable is relative and for me most aren't and I've no mean to know if it's really trustworthy. I'd agree with no. 2 and 3, being a dick about producer trying to get revenue or throwing bullish and bragging about security isn't productive for anyone. And TBH blocking add for security isn't the best way to achieve security anyway. But you must think that a majority of people that have addblockers have it either for comfort or because their friends told them to install addblock, ccleaner, antivirus x... and they simply doesn't care thereafter. Anyway thank for the entertaining content, I just wish it could be on twitch instead of MLG because the MLG player works only 10% of the time, addblocking or not, and the quality is really bad and pixelated. Now I don't watch live and wait for the Vod.
When it comes to #3 you are not saving any bandwidth at all on the stream. I stream in CBR, meaning my stream is always the same bitrate regardless. If you were not seeing an add, you'd be seeing 3.5 mb/s video anyway. In fact, it's entirely possible you may be wasting bandwidth by adblocking, since the ads may be running at a lower bitrate than my stream is.
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Cheers! Did not realise my tl account was connected to teamliquidpedia. heh
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On March 24 2014 22:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2014 17:38 varsovie wrote:On March 24 2014 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 24 2014 03:46 Green_25 wrote:
I've literally never used adblock, never understood why you'd screw the people who are giving you what is still essentially free entertainment There's 3 types of adblockers. 1) The responsible adblocker who adblocks sites he doesn't trust for security concerns and whitelists everything he watches on a regular basis. This guy is cool and should not be condemned for his actions. 2) The asshole adblocker. He adblocks everything and then brags about it on the internet. Probably owns a Guy Fawkes mask, thinks he is a revolutionary. 3) The deluded adblocker. Same as above but makes excuses like "consumer choice" and "security" while adblocking every site, including those who have proven trustworthy and reasonable.I'm trying to figure out if I prefer 2 or 3, I think at least with 2 he's being honest so I gotta respect that a bit more. Isn't it pointless to have addblock, but let 90% of the adds go through because I've white-listed the content I watch the most? I personally block every adds (not even with addblock, but my own blacklist) for three reasons : 1. Better looking internet : I like not being distracted while reading/watching content 2. Save time : This one is more for adds before vids, but I feel frustrating and sometime I don't have time to go through a 2 minute commercial, not mentioning some flash-adds that actually slow down my browser or the loading of a site. 3. Save bandwidth : I don't have infinite data and it cost an arm to get it where I live. Blocking all solicitations frees enough download for me to watch a full Shoutcraft 720p. When there some content I really like, I much prefer simply donating directly to the content producer (yes I'm a minority) than lowering the quality of my daily browsing just so you get half a cent at the end of the year (and google another half and knows I like gaming content...). The part you say "trustworthy and reasonable", well reasonable is relative and for me most aren't and I've no mean to know if it's really trustworthy. I'd agree with no. 2 and 3, being a dick about producer trying to get revenue or throwing bullish and bragging about security isn't productive for anyone. And TBH blocking add for security isn't the best way to achieve security anyway. But you must think that a majority of people that have addblockers have it either for comfort or because their friends told them to install addblock, ccleaner, antivirus x... and they simply doesn't care thereafter. Anyway thank for the entertaining content, I just wish it could be on twitch instead of MLG because the MLG player works only 10% of the time, addblocking or not, and the quality is really bad and pixelated. Now I don't watch live and wait for the Vod. When it comes to #3 you are not saving any bandwidth at all on the stream. I stream in CBR, meaning my stream is always the same bitrate regardless. If you were not seeing an add, you'd be seeing 3.5 mb/s video anyway. In fact, it's entirely possible you may be wasting bandwidth by adblocking, since the ads may be running at a lower bitrate than my stream is.
Ill be turning off adblock for tonight TB every little helps!
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United States23455 Posts
Glad we get to see Legend play some SC2! He wasn't that great in Starbow 
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JD destroyed Root earlier today, really want to see him carry on his momentum. I think he will beat Curious, but unsure if EG can take down IM in the other games.
It's weird, these clanwars are now more or less the only SC2 content I enjoy just for the games themselves.
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I'll co cast with you. NBD. I casted LRSL so I have tons of experience.
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any battle.net lag could be due to reaper of souls (d3 expansion) going live on b.net at the same time this clanwar starts
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i would not play with this lag tbh
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On March 25 2014 08:10 nkr wrote:
any battle.net lag could be due to reaper of souls (d3 expansion) going live on b.net at the same time this clanwar starts
Diablo 3: Reaper of Latency.
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i think if it lagged this badly for the players they would've complained by now
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Korea (South)2373 Posts
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Players confirmed they were not lagging.
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On March 25 2014 08:23 ClanWars wrote:
Players confirmed they were not lagging.
Ah that's kinda strange that it was only affecting you. Bnet works in mysterious ways.
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