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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 20 2014 11:32 GMT
#261
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
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On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

well it always does cuz a very good opponent makes ur play look weak
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 20 2014 11:33 GMT
#262
wish Maru had gotten to play PartinG again
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eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
January 20 2014 11:33 GMT
#263
Nice game by SoulKey, solid play.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 20 2014 11:33 GMT
#264
On January 20 2014 20:32 Ctesias wrote:
Excellent game.

That aggressive mech style on Out Boxer is really entertaining to watch.


really good to lose with too.
Zest fanboy.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 20 2014 11:33 GMT
#265
On January 20 2014 20:32 PerSe wrote:
What Flash v DRG, and SK v Maru showed, was that the more active, better splitting player won.


Don't you mean so say that, what they showed how mech sucks on maps where you can't secure 4-5 bases easily?
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 20 2014 11:33 GMT
#266
Maru just didn't understand Mech TvZ as well as Flash it seems like, he never switched into air, never had static defenses set up, no sensor towers, no missile turrets at key points. Basically meant he could never secure a fourth. Mass thors win against mutas in a head on fight but he was forced to split them because he never had those defensive positions set up and couldn't grow his viking / raven count.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 20 2014 11:33 GMT
#267
On January 20 2014 20:32 PerSe wrote:
What Flash v DRG, and SK v Maru showed, was that the more active, better splitting player won.

No no. What those games showed is that not everyone can do God's build.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 20 2014 11:34 GMT
#268
there is still hope for some maru rofl stomping if it goes to the ace match
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 20 2014 11:34 GMT
#269
Every Terran likes playing Mech now vs T, so the early Roach builds are pretty good again ^_^
Nice play from Soulkey, still was a chance or two for Maru to do some heavier damage but was fun game. GGs

Im glad Maru if he was going to lose a game was to someone who is very good like Soulkey and not some random cheese win xD
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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 11:35:45
January 20 2014 11:34 GMT
#270
On January 20 2014 20:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

the opponent matters a lottt

Having units/turrets at home to defend counters is something you need regardless of who the opponent is.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 11:37:39
January 20 2014 11:35 GMT
#271
MVP should play some zerg next week to show them noobs how to mech. Forget about Flash.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 20 2014 11:35 GMT
#272
On January 20 2014 20:34 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 20:32 opterown wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

the opponent matters a lottt

Having no units/turrets at home to defend counters is something you need regardless of who the opponent is.

Unless it's an opponent who doesn't use run bys.
Flash | Mvp
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3492 Posts
January 20 2014 11:36 GMT
#273
Now the question is, will sOs keep underperforming in Pl or manage to defeat Rain?
Horang2 fan
newbornducky
Profile Joined September 2010
42 Posts
January 20 2014 11:36 GMT
#274
I think Maru should have made more vikings, but still such a good game! So who said mech is boring to watch?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 20 2014 11:36 GMT
#275
On January 20 2014 20:35 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 20:34 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:32 opterown wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

the opponent matters a lottt

Having no units/turrets at home to defend counters is something you need regardless of who the opponent is.

Unless it's an opponent who doesn't use run bys.

or it too pinned down to even try them, if their defense isn't as good as soulkey's
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 20 2014 11:36 GMT
#276
On January 20 2014 20:34 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 20:32 opterown wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

the opponent matters a lottt

Having units/turrets at home to defend counters is something you need regardless of who the opponent is.


not being aggressive vs mutas is a good start. SK just picked the right comp against what Maru was doing, if he just turtled after killing the 3rd it'd ve been a free win.
Zest fanboy.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 20 2014 11:37 GMT
#277
On January 20 2014 20:36 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 20:35 Ctesias wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:34 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:32 opterown wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

the opponent matters a lottt

Having no units/turrets at home to defend counters is something you need regardless of who the opponent is.

Unless it's an opponent who doesn't use run bys.

or it too pinned down to even try them, if their defense isn't as good as soulkey's


you can't pin down someone going for SH/muta/roach, pushing vs sh is way too hard and slow.
Zest fanboy.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27015 Posts
January 20 2014 11:37 GMT
#278
Flash seems to have his transitions and defends tighter than Maru when it comes to mech which is no great surprise. Good game though for sure
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5466 Posts
January 20 2014 11:38 GMT
#279
Man, the level of some of these proleague games is pretty damn high. It's definitely good for the game...
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 20 2014 11:38 GMT
#280
On January 20 2014 20:35 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 20:34 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:32 opterown wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:31 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On January 20 2014 20:28 Shellshock wrote:
pretty weak defense against all of the counter attacks killed him. he started off well but then he just stopped defending

Not splitting his army as well Flash splits his army

yeah but Flash played some ezpz zergs compared to Soulkey too. But yeah Flash's TvZ was pretty good

Yeah, not exactly as good as Soulkey. It's pretty damn solid though. Looked more solid than Maru's performance today.

the opponent matters a lottt

Having no units/turrets at home to defend counters is something you need regardless of who the opponent is.

Unless it's an opponent who doesn't use run bys.


Except Soulkey did, with zerglings roaches and mutalisks, multiple times. Supply depot wall with tank and missile turret just crushes that. Maru had the tanks, just not the walls sensor towers or turrets. His fourth base choice basically meant that Soulkey was free to do what he wanted on his side of the map, compare with flash's fourth base choice and sim city which denied a base and secured the entire southern side of the map Maru just made a bad decision.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
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