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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#641
On December 29 2013 19:51 TAMinator wrote:
Why isn't Moonglade here? Not doing trio casts?

Maybe latter.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#642
On December 29 2013 19:51 TAMinator wrote:
Why isn't Moonglade here? Not doing trio casts?


Probably rotating
AdministratorBreak the chains
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#643
On December 29 2013 19:46 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:39 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:36 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

If only Dream had prepared accordingly


You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match


I'm insulting what you're saying because it is stupid. I can't convince you otherwise, but you're sadly mistaken if you think the only mistake Dream made in that game was not building an additional bunker. Likewise, you seem to underestimate the efficiency of Rain's micro. Not just any Protoss wins in that situation. It takes mistakes from Dream and good play from Rain, and both happened.


Almost every protoss wins with 2 base blink on maps like Yeonsu or Star Station. Yes, Rain is great, but he screwed up his build pretty bad, made probably the same amount of mistakes as Dream, probably even more but the mobility of stalkers+time warp + multiple entry points make it almost impossible to defend 2 base blink.

You cant even evacuate the natural because protoss is mining back home from 2 bases.

Seriously, saying that blink isn't broken on current maps is like saying 1/1/1 wasn't broken against protoss.
It had the same problems - hard to scout exactly what you are up against and tiny margin for error on protoss part.

I bet you could find errors in every protoss players defense of 1/1/1 back in WoL but that doesn't change the fact the build was too strong and imbalanced.


Lol, not even close


1/1/1s were held...


1/1/1s were held after an immortal buff on maps that were specifically designed to discourage 1/1/1s (see Daybreak). Every terran went 1/1/1 on every map that allowed for it and protoss got close to extinct. That's the worst state of balance this game ever had. If blink allins were at all comparable then every protoss would do it every game and it would still have an 80% winrate. Because that's how the 1/1/1 was
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#644
lol i thought Wolf was gonna tell the viewers that trying to become a progamer is a dumb idea and you shouldn't do it. at least i was hoping he was gonna say that.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:55:01
December 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#645
Who needs Jaedong in PL if you can get the One True Dong: DongRaeGu
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 29 2013 10:51 GMT
#646
On December 29 2013 19:50 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:49 Mangooze wrote:
Stream quality is very nice for freeloaders this time.

Youtube ftw. No lag for Ausfailian internet.


Thanks!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16107 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#647
My heart is singing for DRG, but Parting is gonna crush him. That's what my head is telling me.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#648
Mother of god I didn't even recognize Parting, what kind of eat there is at SKT
Michael Probu
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#649
Inside info guys has to be legit + i can brag

I played parting today(btw he's probably doing WCS NA that's my theory, getting those 200 wins);

on belshir vestige

He did a cannon rush vs my 15 pool 16 hatch in the top right portion of my natural.

Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#650
Come on DRG, I need Soulkey to win the next game
....
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#651
Is that my imagination or is the caster on the right (Wiki)Canata?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#652
Wow oh yeah i just noticed....not many breaks, and they have a timer on these breaks ;o
Pro League and KESPA listened to last years 5minute breaks after every game?!?!
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KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
December 29 2013 10:52 GMT
#653
Kinda wishing for a DRG win here, but I have Parting as team captain... Gotta go with my fantasy picks
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 29 2013 10:53 GMT
#654
Let's go MVP, as the casters said your coach is awesome!

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r1flEx
Profile Joined October 2012
Belgium256 Posts
December 29 2013 10:54 GMT
#655
this is looking like it's such an easy win for skt1
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 10:55:25
December 29 2013 10:54 GMT
#656
On December 29 2013 19:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 19:46 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:39 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:36 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:34 Glorfindel! wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:31 Zealously wrote:
On December 29 2013 19:30 Glorfindel! wrote:
[quote]

You mean like Rain did by letting his cheese getting scouted and forgetting his most important upgrade? ^^
To bad Dream did not make a third bunker on the right place, he clearly deserved to loose!

Flawless logic... :D:D:D:D


So, essentially, what you're saying is that Dream played an otherwise flawless game? Don't be stupid.


No, but with much less flaws than Rain as far as I could see from the spectators view.
However your Protossbiases are incredible
And there is no reasong to call anyone stupid, right?


I tend to call people stupid when they are


Feels like you are making some personal insults which clearly does not belong in a thread?
Especially a TL-writer should know better?
Cheering for MVP now, want an ace match


I'm insulting what you're saying because it is stupid. I can't convince you otherwise, but you're sadly mistaken if you think the only mistake Dream made in that game was not building an additional bunker. Likewise, you seem to underestimate the efficiency of Rain's micro. Not just any Protoss wins in that situation. It takes mistakes from Dream and good play from Rain, and both happened.


Almost every protoss wins with 2 base blink on maps like Yeonsu or Star Station. Yes, Rain is great, but he screwed up his build pretty bad, made probably the same amount of mistakes as Dream, probably even more but the mobility of stalkers+time warp + multiple entry points make it almost impossible to defend 2 base blink.

You cant even evacuate the natural because protoss is mining back home from 2 bases.

Seriously, saying that blink isn't broken on current maps is like saying 1/1/1 wasn't broken against protoss.
It had the same problems - hard to scout exactly what you are up against and tiny margin for error on protoss part.

I bet you could find errors in every protoss players defense of 1/1/1 back in WoL but that doesn't change the fact the build was too strong and imbalanced.


Lol, not even close


1/1/1s were held...


1/1/1s were held after an immortal buff on maps that were specifically designed to discourage 1/1/1s (see Daybreak). Every terran went 1/1/1 on every map that allowed for it and protoss got close to extinct. That's the worst state of balance this game ever had. If blink allins were at all comparable then every protoss would do it every game and it would still have an 80% winrate. Because that's how the 1/1/1 was


Every Terran went 1/1/1 on every map? Stop exaggerating...

Some 1/1/1s were held before the immortal buff...
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
December 29 2013 10:54 GMT
#657
Every single Korean guy in that Street interview has black rimmed hipster spectacles wtf.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 29 2013 10:54 GMT
#658
dat ad. now i really wanna go to Korea because girls.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 29 2013 10:54 GMT
#659
On December 29 2013 19:54 Schelim wrote:
dat ad. now i really wanna go to Korea because girls.

You should go there because food. That stuff is delicious.
Flash | Mvp
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 29 2013 10:55 GMT
#660
On December 29 2013 19:54 Pangpootata wrote:
Every single Korean guy in that Street interview has black rimmed hipster spectacles wtf.

Because those kinda spectacles are fucking aaawesomeeeeeee
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