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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote: Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least. I second that opinion. Looking forward to that event, but it really shouldn't carry any WCS points. | ||
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Azhrak
Finland1196 Posts
On December 22 2013 08:23 JustPassingBy wrote: I second that opinion. Looking forward to that event, but it really shouldn't carry any WCS points. According to the WCS requirements for other tournaments, only 25% of the tournament spots need to be attainable through qualifiers. In this case 8/32 is 25% so it passes the bar barely. I don't know if 25% is a good number, but that's what has been set for 2014. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote: Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least. There exists an "opportunity gap" in eSports. Look at why Western Wolves disbanded recently, the team had difficulty getting their players to Premier individual tournaments. It's incredibly hard for an up and coming player to make it to many of these tournaments nowadays, whereas players on the established teams (Liquid, EG, Acer, Mouz, etc.) have it much easier. We'll continue to see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, Hyun, etc. etc. the same old faces. Since he's joined Acer, we're seeing a bit more of Innovation at these tournaments, and the same will soon be the case with Dear as well. These players will have a near lock on foreign tournaments from 2014 and into the foreseeable future. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On December 22 2013 08:23 JustPassingBy wrote: I second that opinion. Looking forward to that event, but it really shouldn't carry any WCS points. I agree with this. IMHO, it is not fair that some players earn points just by being invited to events, specially when those points are later used to determine seeds in other tournaments :/ Is there gonna be any requirement for the players to earn those points? Like reaching the Ro8 or something similar? | ||
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monsta
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote: Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least. Yeah I don't really like to see tournaments like this give WCS points but I guess at least WCS will be more accessible for foreigners to play with the new qualifier format so it could be worse. | ||
InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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wishr
Russian Federation262 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 22 2013 09:14 Darkdwarf wrote: Invites are killing esports. (no, but seriously, they suck) See, now that's the thing. When you have too many invites, it's hard for up and coming players to have an opportunity to come unless the tournament strategically invites them. However, that's not always in the best interest of the tournaments, who want the fan favorites that will bring in viewership. They are interested in hyping up and maximizing interest in their own weekend tournament, which could be done by inviting fan favorites. And viewers are fickle. We say now that invites suck and that we should have more open qualifiers, but when Koreans that we don't know very well make it through, we complain that there's no one interesting and we lose interest. Imagine a tournament without any EG, Liquid, Mouz, Axiom-Acer, etc. No Hyun, no Polt, no Life, no DRG. Let's not kid ourselves, most people would not be happy. We don't even know what we want | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On December 22 2013 14:00 Bagration wrote: See, now that's the thing. When you have too many invites, it's hard for up and coming players to have an opportunity to come unless the tournament strategically invites them. However, that's not always in the best interest of the tournaments, who want the fan favorites that will bring in viewership. They are interested in hyping up and maximizing interest in their own weekend tournament, which could be done by inviting fan favorites. And viewers are fickle. We say now that invites suck and that we should have more open qualifiers, but when Koreans that we don't know very well make it through, we complain that there's no one interesting and we lose interest. Imagine a tournament without any EG, Liquid, Mouz, Axiom-Acer, etc. No Hyun, no Polt, no Life, no DRG. Let's not kid ourselves, most people would not be happy. We don't even know what we want I think we know what we want. We just don't agree. I'd rather have no invites, everyone earns a spot. But I want the qualifiers casted too, because upsets are exciting. | ||
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oneill12
Romania1222 Posts
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Maegi
Finland174 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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