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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 21 2013 23:23 GMT
#21
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote:
Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least.


I second that opinion. Looking forward to that event, but it really shouldn't carry any WCS points.
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1194 Posts
December 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#22
On December 22 2013 08:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote:
Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least.


I second that opinion. Looking forward to that event, but it really shouldn't carry any WCS points.

According to the WCS requirements for other tournaments, only 25% of the tournament spots need to be attainable through qualifiers. In this case 8/32 is 25% so it passes the bar barely. I don't know if 25% is a good number, but that's what has been set for 2014.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 21 2013 23:40 GMT
#23
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote:
Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least.


There exists an "opportunity gap" in eSports. Look at why Western Wolves disbanded recently, the team had difficulty getting their players to Premier individual tournaments. It's incredibly hard for an up and coming player to make it to many of these tournaments nowadays, whereas players on the established teams (Liquid, EG, Acer, Mouz, etc.) have it much easier.

We'll continue to see Jaedong, Taeja, Hero, Hyun, etc. etc. the same old faces. Since he's joined Acer, we're seeing a bit more of Innovation at these tournaments, and the same will soon be the case with Dear as well. These players will have a near lock on foreign tournaments from 2014 and into the foreseeable future.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 21 2013 23:44 GMT
#24
$10,000 top prize. Taeja takes it.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
December 21 2013 23:48 GMT
#25
On December 22 2013 08:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote:
Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least.


I second that opinion. Looking forward to that event, but it really shouldn't carry any WCS points.


I agree with this. IMHO, it is not fair that some players earn points just by being invited to events, specially when those points are later used to determine seeds in other tournaments :/

Is there gonna be any requirement for the players to earn those points? Like reaching the Ro8 or something similar?
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
December 21 2013 23:53 GMT
#26
onl $10K? :&
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
December 22 2013 00:14 GMT
#27
Invites are killing esports. (no, but seriously, they suck)
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 00:18:43
December 22 2013 00:18 GMT
#28
........
RIP MKP
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 22 2013 00:18 GMT
#29
Hope the acer players apply and some cool terrans
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 22 2013 00:59 GMT
#30
On December 22 2013 07:33 Dodgin wrote:
Not sure how I feel about 24 invites and 8 qualifiers giving WCS points but what are you gonna do, there should be tons of top players there at least.

Yeah I don't really like to see tournaments like this give WCS points but I guess at least WCS will be more accessible for foreigners to play with the new qualifier format so it could be worse.
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InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
December 22 2013 01:08 GMT
#31
please bring back Geoff and 2GD
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
December 22 2013 01:43 GMT
#32
cool stuff, I hope we see a lot of the top foreigners apply :o
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
December 22 2013 01:44 GMT
#33
Hope they can get a venue with a reasonable internet connection and someone to do the production this time ^^
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 22 2013 03:24 GMT
#34
Dem WCS points.
It's starting!
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
December 22 2013 03:38 GMT
#35
I would definetely visit this! Good news!
* Only girls complain about balance! *
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 05:02:07
December 22 2013 05:00 GMT
#36
On December 22 2013 09:14 Darkdwarf wrote:
Invites are killing esports. (no, but seriously, they suck)


See, now that's the thing. When you have too many invites, it's hard for up and coming players to have an opportunity to come unless the tournament strategically invites them.

However, that's not always in the best interest of the tournaments, who want the fan favorites that will bring in viewership. They are interested in hyping up and maximizing interest in their own weekend tournament, which could be done by inviting fan favorites.

And viewers are fickle. We say now that invites suck and that we should have more open qualifiers, but when Koreans that we don't know very well make it through, we complain that there's no one interesting and we lose interest. Imagine a tournament without any EG, Liquid, Mouz, Axiom-Acer, etc. No Hyun, no Polt, no Life, no DRG. Let's not kid ourselves, most people would not be happy.

We don't even know what we want
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
December 22 2013 07:20 GMT
#37
On December 22 2013 14:00 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 09:14 Darkdwarf wrote:
Invites are killing esports. (no, but seriously, they suck)


See, now that's the thing. When you have too many invites, it's hard for up and coming players to have an opportunity to come unless the tournament strategically invites them.

However, that's not always in the best interest of the tournaments, who want the fan favorites that will bring in viewership. They are interested in hyping up and maximizing interest in their own weekend tournament, which could be done by inviting fan favorites.

And viewers are fickle. We say now that invites suck and that we should have more open qualifiers, but when Koreans that we don't know very well make it through, we complain that there's no one interesting and we lose interest. Imagine a tournament without any EG, Liquid, Mouz, Axiom-Acer, etc. No Hyun, no Polt, no Life, no DRG. Let's not kid ourselves, most people would not be happy.

We don't even know what we want


I think we know what we want. We just don't agree. I'd rather have no invites, everyone earns a spot. But I want the qualifiers casted too, because upsets are exciting.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
December 22 2013 07:27 GMT
#38
Very cool!
Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
December 22 2013 08:56 GMT
#39
I guess this is going to happen during some convention?
NaNiwa <3
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
December 22 2013 09:00 GMT
#40
So peliliiga is organizing this? We wont see that awful northcon production I think
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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