On December 16 2013 08:10 Fionn wrote: I am close to walking away from KT after four plus years of supporting them.
CJ has stolen my heart.
He lives :o Not long to go Looking forward to CJ vs IM. I think IM can take it, but only if they win the 2v2. I see herO beating Byul and Squirtle beating Hydra but the 2v2 is 2v2, that shit unpredictable!
Now this is the story all about how My life got flipped, turned upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Jin-air
In west Gang-nam born and raised On the playground where I spent most of my days Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool And all shooting some b-lings outside of the school When a couple of guys, they were up to no good (Startale!) Started making trouble in my neighbourhood I got in one little rush and my mom got scared And said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Jin-air"
I whistled for a cab and when it came near the License plate said "fresh" and had a dice in the mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I thought nah, forget it, yo homes to Jin-air!
I pulled up to a house about seven or eight And I yelled to the cabby "Yo, homes smell you later!" Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the prince of Jin-air
Nice job Maru that was impressive! I reckon Parting thought he was going to stick to the mass marine marauder style and got caught out when ghosts appeared and he wasn't producing colossus :D Parting always looks super dangerous but Maru so slick !
On December 16 2013 19:22 Mangooze wrote: Dunno who this guy is, but Wolf+This guy is a huuuuuge improvement over last year. Finally able to listen without cringing.
Wolf carrying the cast like a boss, despite being ill.
On December 16 2013 19:14 Pandemona wrote: Maru to stronk here
maru seems pretty dead to me here
^_^
maru OP
i don't think he was ever below supply for parting
well supplies normally dont say much in a pvt. one engagement can decide the game either way
dno why you said maru looked pretty dead though, he never looked in trouble that game
i thought for a moment he was in trouble when his 4 medivac drop got repelled and 2 medivacs were feedbacked and he hadn't yet build ghosts. but then ghosts came and yeah from there on it was a roll over
On December 16 2013 19:32 Pandemona wrote: Wow that was bad. Man 2v2 should be fun, that was just stupid. Silly map, pointless game ;_;
yes i agree, thought something special would happen but that looked like a normal ladder 2v2 and these are pretty boring most of the time
I only play diamond level when i 2v2 with my friend, but our games where way more fun than that lol. That was like bronze/silver 2v2s where it just a straight up zergs mass lings, and other races do proxy/rush builds.
I personally think it is down to the map, so silly. Put them on 2v2 ladder maps lol some of them are quite good at the moment too.
Wolf looks and sounds absolutely dreadful today, but he can't skip his first pro-league match of course. the LoL caster is pretty good; he has a pleasant voice to listen to!
On December 16 2013 19:40 Undead1993 wrote: i had lag and then suddenly i see the casters and they are talking random stuff, is teh game paused or over?
On December 16 2013 19:40 Undead1993 wrote: i had lag and then suddenly i see the casters and they are talking random stuff, is teh game paused or over?
Are you watching the youtubestream? Works great on 1080p with proxmate for us germans
I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed. At least I also realized that this was going on.
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed.
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed.
You could write an article about how much better the LR threads on TL are.
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed.
I haven't opened a twitch chat for 1.5 years. Never regretted that decision
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed. At least I also realized that this was going on.
Welcome to the youtube stream, where.... it streams.
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed. At least I also realized that this was going on.
Welcome to the youtube stream, where.... it streams.
Saying that, I'm getting some lag now
I'd use youtube if it wasn't that you can't hide the chat there.
On December 16 2013 19:46 ETisME wrote: both are playing quite sloppy
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
Queenling Speed
If the Queendralisk moved faster, why would I ever build ANYTHING ELSE EVER.
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed. At least I also realized that this was going on.
Welcome to the youtube stream, where.... it streams.
Saying that, I'm getting some lag now
I'd use youtube if it wasn't that you can't hide the chat there.
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
Queenling Speed
If the Queendralisk moved faster, why would I ever build ANYTHING ELSE EVER.
On December 16 2013 19:40 Undead1993 wrote: i had lag and then suddenly i see the casters and they are talking random stuff, is teh game paused or over?
Are you watching the youtubestream? Works great on 1080p with proxmate for us germans
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
Queenling Speed
If the Queendralisk moved faster, why would I ever build ANYTHING ELSE EVER.
I like Brendan's casting a lot. He doesn't step out of his play to play commentary too much and when he does it's for simple small scale analysis which he's not too bad at. His voice is also soothing.
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
Queenling Speed
If the Queendralisk moved faster, why would I ever build ANYTHING ELSE EVER.
mass queens in hots campaign legit strat
It's a good thing the campaign was easy, because the unit mechanics were up to shit!
On December 16 2013 19:49 DarkLordOlli wrote: I like Brendan's casting a lot. He doesn't step out of his play to play commentary too much and when he does it's for simple small scale analysis which he's not too bad at. His voice is also soothing.
Yeah I'm liking him a lot already.
He just needs a bit more "oomph" maybe - or paired with someone else - they are both quite similar with their voices/tones.
I'm not getting that "HYPE" feel from them - but everything else is solid!
On December 16 2013 19:46 Pandemona wrote: This is why PvZ still needs some attention. 11minutes in and fuck all has happened. Soulkey sat with 1k 1k :s
We need to buff the movement speed of at least one more unit!
Queenling Speed
If the Queendralisk moved faster, why would I ever build ANYTHING ELSE EVER.
mass queens in hots campaign legit strat
It's a good thing the campaign was easy, because the unit mechanics were up to shit!
yeah i got bored this week and replayed sc and bw campaigns, they were much harder haha
On December 16 2013 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: I made the mistake of looking at twitch chat on HerO's stream. Someone asked "can someone explain what the zerg did wrong?" so I explained it and 15 people went at me for bringing filthy knowledge to twitch chat. I guess that was the reminder I needed. At least I also realized that this was going on.
Welcome to the youtube stream, where.... it streams.
Saying that, I'm getting some lag now
I'd use youtube if it wasn't that you can't hide the chat there.
Huh? I just clicked on the thingy below the chat window that said that it would. And it did.
On December 16 2013 19:49 DarkLordOlli wrote: I like Brendan's casting a lot. He doesn't step out of his play to play commentary too much and when he does it's for simple small scale analysis which he's not too bad at. His voice is also soothing.
Yeah, he's telling it how it is, which is somehow refreshing... "lost 8 zealots, in only see two to three dead roaches, so not a very good trade"
sOs still has a chance if he kills this army. His mineral bank is gigantic (which means he can expand) while Soulkey's economy is really bad and the 4th for Soulkey could be sniped easily
On December 16 2013 19:55 bourne117 wrote: sOs is playing really sloppy. He is floating like 3k minerals has at least 5 gates not even into warp gates and is getting supply blocked.
he just lost his natural half of his main and his fourth pretty common to be supply blocked for quite some time after those happenings
On December 16 2013 19:55 bourne117 wrote: sOs is playing really sloppy. He is floating like 3k minerals has at least 5 gates not even into warp gates and is getting supply blocked.
supply block because pylons killed, no point making warpgates if no supply i guess, and no gas to make units so that's why minerals are banked
On December 16 2013 19:55 bourne117 wrote: sOs is playing really sloppy. He is floating like 3k minerals has at least 5 gates not even into warp gates and is getting supply blocked.
he just lost his natural half of his main and his fourth pretty common to be supply blocked for quite some time after those happenings
But I mean there was probably a minute of him not even starting more pylons even though he had 3k minerals and nothing else he could do with it.
On December 16 2013 19:56 DarkLordOlli wrote: sOs still has a chance if he kills this army. His mineral bank is gigantic (which means he can expand) while Soulkey's economy is really bad and the 4th for Soulkey could be sniped easily
As much as the last 4minutes of that match was good, i find the overall 90% of that to have been a /turtle to max and then fight which is justs not right "/ Especially for how long they were waiting ;_;
Oh well nice timing, now for Champions League draw! :d
I guess SK lost so much that he did one death push and didn't have any chance to get a fifth during the attack ,or to replenish Drones. Some incredibly cost efficient engagements got sOs back in the game and removed part of the toughest groups in the Zerg army.
On December 16 2013 19:59 Seeker wrote: This is why you HAVE to kill Protoss production buildings...
Yeah there were a few roach run bys that should've done more damage with a little targetting. But most of his production was in his main, and Soulkey couldn't get up there with his main army because of all the aoe and the big choke. Really good positioning from sOs.
I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
It wasn't actually that much of a diss against those three players. Fantasy is probably the worst of the bunch. But is there even a supporting cast for them? Even though Flash won most wins last season it's hard to imagine a Terran legacy in PL right now.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
I think he is saying those are the only 3 terrans he thinks will perform, while proleague has tons and tons of protoss with good win numbers and plenty of zergs as well.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
On December 16 2013 19:59 opterown wrote: lol four onestar votes
four very, very very angry zergs lol
I don't really get how the game was good? One player was hugely ahead, derped, threw the game and lost. Not exactly anything breathtaking.
^ angry zerg spotted
I didn't vote in the poll, I never do, but how was that game amazing? sOs didn't facilitate any magic comeback, SK just gave him a win.
sOs played amazingly, Soulkey just took one bad engagement. Other than that they both played a great game
I guess I missed the amazing part, it looked like a standard ZvP snoozefest to me, lots of posturing, not much happening on either side apart from some run-bys and warp-ins and then a huge clusterfuck engagement where one player gets rolled.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
But he wasnt on a better team and he got the most wins. Thats like saying a player in the NBA who averages 30 points is only getting 30 points because his team sucks but still, its hard as fuck to score 30 points regardless, just like its hard as fuck to win as many games as Flash did last season.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2013 19:59 opterown wrote: lol four onestar votes
four very, very very angry zergs lol
I don't really get how the game was good? One player was hugely ahead, derped, threw the game and lost. Not exactly anything breathtaking.
^ angry zerg spotted
I didn't vote in the poll, I never do, but how was that game amazing? sOs didn't facilitate any magic comeback, SK just gave him a win.
sOs played amazingly, Soulkey just took one bad engagement. Other than that they both played a great game
I guess I missed the amazing part, it looked like a standard ZvP snoozefest to me, lots of posturing, not much happening on either side apart from some run-bys and warp-ins and then a huge clusterfuck engagement where one player gets rolled.
You must've missed the great viper control, the blink stalkers in the main and zealots everywhere, the part where sOs was hard contained and had no mining base but had a good enough army to at least buy time to use his bank, allowing him to push out on the map again because he'd killed so much of Soulkey's economy that his army was eventually strong enough to retake bases. It was a pretty cool game imo.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Well in the all-kill round, he probably would've have gotten as many wins, but still, getting the most wins in a season is a big accompishment.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
It wasn't actually that much of a diss against those three players. Fantasy is probably the worst of the bunch. But is there even a supporting cast for them? Even though Flash won most wins last season it's hard to imagine a Terran legacy in PL right now.
There are some potentially good terran players : Baby , Reality , Bunny , Cure , Dream probably some more that can go on streaks end up with a lot of wins .
Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Like that new Batman game which makes no sense whatsoever
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
It wasn't actually that much of a diss against those three players. Fantasy is probably the worst of the bunch. But is there even a supporting cast for them? Even though Flash won most wins last season it's hard to imagine a Terran legacy in PL right now.
There are some potentially good terran players : Baby , Reality , Bunny , Cure , Dream probably some more that can go on streaks end up with a lot of wins .
YODAAAAAAA.
And I'd love to see how Mvp does with some preparation.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
You'd think people would get used to seeing KT in Proleague.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
On December 16 2013 19:59 opterown wrote: lol four onestar votes
four very, very very angry zergs lol
I don't really get how the game was good? One player was hugely ahead, derped, threw the game and lost. Not exactly anything breathtaking.
^ angry zerg spotted
I didn't vote in the poll, I never do, but how was that game amazing? sOs didn't facilitate any magic comeback, SK just gave him a win.
sOs played amazingly, Soulkey just took one bad engagement. Other than that they both played a great game
I guess I missed the amazing part, it looked like a standard ZvP snoozefest to me, lots of posturing, not much happening on either side apart from some run-bys and warp-ins and then a huge clusterfuck engagement where one player gets rolled.
You must've missed the great viper control, the blink stalkers in the main and zealots everywhere, the part where sOs was hard contained and had no mining base but had a good enough army to at least buy time to use his bank, allowing him to push out on the map again because he'd killed so much of Soulkey's economy that his army was eventually strong enough to retake bases. It was a pretty cool game imo.
Opinions, rectums, all that. I'm glad some people were entertained, I don't begrudge anyone enjoying a game. I guess I'm just too jaded to enjoy much of anything in ZvP anymore.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
You'd think people would get used to seeing KT in Proleague.
It was more that all three of them were there, not that I was unused to KT in PL : P
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
It wasn't actually that much of a diss against those three players. Fantasy is probably the worst of the bunch. But is there even a supporting cast for them? Even though Flash won most wins last season it's hard to imagine a Terran legacy in PL right now.
There are some potentially good terran players : Baby , Reality , Bunny , Cure , Dream probably some more that can go on streaks end up with a lot of wins .
YODAAAAAAA.
And I'd love to see how Mvp does with some preparation.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
I find it hard to comment on most of the Terrans in PL since many of them haven't played in a while, and certainly hadn't practiced as much that last time we saw them since PL ended.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Startale fannys are branching out now? Careful or you might get burned.
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
there arent many solid terrans anywhere right now.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Go back to your 5 team GSTL where you still can't win
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
there arent many solid terrans anywhere right now.
bomber, maru, taeja stand out, with bogus, mma, polt, etc coming up after as pretty solid.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Startale fannys are branching out now? Careful or you might get burned.
It took me a few times to re-read what you meant by "fannys" and "branching out" there.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Go back to your 5 team GSTL where you still can't win
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Go back to your 5 team GSTL where you still can't win
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
I mean. Fantasy is probably one of the better ones in SPL (and in general). Dream and Yoda are solid for sure, Bunny from CJ will have to step it up, Cure and TY are both very solid. And obviously Flash and Maru.
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Why are IM the bad guys? They are like The Avengers of SC2. Superheros galore!
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
there arent many solid terrans anywhere right now.
bomber, maru, taeja stand out, with bogus, mma, polt, etc coming up after as pretty solid.
thats still not many and I havent seen Polt play in a while so I overlooked him
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
there arent many solid terrans anywhere right now.
bomber, maru, taeja stand out, with bogus, mma, polt, etc coming up after as pretty solid.
thats still not many and I havent seen Polt play in a while so I overlooked him
It's more than there are good Zergs - think about it!
On December 16 2013 20:26 Destructicon wrote: By the way, can anyone give me some info regarding the other caster? I've never seen him before nor heard him cast anything major.
His name is Brendan, he is a simple man - he likes reading books, sitting in the park, and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
On December 16 2013 20:05 Heartland wrote: I wonder if Proleague will still be dominated by Protoss or if we'll see the rise of the Zergs. Hard to even imagine any kind of Terran domination when the participants are Maru, Flash and Fantasy.
flash's most wins award from last season disagrees with you
flash's most wins is due to him carrying his team though, if he was on a better team he'd have less wins
Flash would be played all the time, regardless of team. + Show Spoiler +
And would carry any team.
Some teams, maybe. Other teams he'd just be another solid Terran capable of picking up wins. Don't even know what kind of form he's in right now, really. :/
there aren't very many solid terrans in PL right now at all, come to think of it.
there arent many solid terrans anywhere right now.
bomber, maru, taeja stand out, with bogus, mma, polt, etc coming up after as pretty solid.
thats still not many and I havent seen Polt play in a while so I overlooked him
It's more than there are good Zergs - think about it!
soulkey, jaedong, life, scarlett as standouts, and roro is the best zerg ofc
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Why are IM the bad guys? They are like The Avengers of SC2. Superheros galore!
I see them as the Secret Society of Super Villains with Mvp as their leader and NesTea doesn't know his teammates are actually bad guys and he's a good guy but doesnt know hes actually a bad guy .
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Why are IM the bad guys? They are like The Avengers of SC2. Superheros galore!
I see them as the Secret Society of Super Villains with Mvp as their leader and NesTea doesn't know his teammates are actually bad guys and he's a good guy but doesnt know hes actually a bad guy .
On December 16 2013 20:26 Destructicon wrote: By the way, can anyone give me some info regarding the other caster? I've never seen him before nor heard him cast anything major.
His name is Brendan, he is a simple man - he likes reading books, sitting in the park, and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
On December 16 2013 20:16 Heartland wrote: Hard to imagine that PL contains IM, KT and Prime. Three teams who are the scum of the earth. It's like one of those Batman movies where there are like five supervillains in one film.
Why are IM the bad guys? They are like The Avengers of SC2. Superheros galore!
I see them as the Secret Society of Super Villains with Mvp as their leader and NesTea doesn't know his teammates are actually bad guys and he's a good guy but doesnt know hes actually a bad guy .
On December 16 2013 20:26 Destructicon wrote: By the way, can anyone give me some info regarding the other caster? I've never seen him before nor heard him cast anything major.
His name is Brendan, he is a simple man - he likes reading books, sitting in the park, and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
On December 16 2013 20:26 Destructicon wrote: By the way, can anyone give me some info regarding the other caster? I've never seen him before nor heard him cast anything major.
His name is Brendan, he is a simple man - he likes reading books, sitting in the park, and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ok, what's with the annoying quadquad E thing?
The sound on the stream
I must be blessed with some weird sort of fortune, for I don't hear anything out of the ordinary.
On December 16 2013 20:26 Destructicon wrote: By the way, can anyone give me some info regarding the other caster? I've never seen him before nor heard him cast anything major.
His name is Brendan, he is a simple man - he likes reading books, sitting in the park, and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ok, what's with the annoying quadquad E thing?
The sound on the stream
I must be blessed with some weird sort of fortune, for I don't hear anything out of the ordinary.
On December 16 2013 20:26 Destructicon wrote: By the way, can anyone give me some info regarding the other caster? I've never seen him before nor heard him cast anything major.
His name is Brendan, he is a simple man - he likes reading books, sitting in the park, and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ok, what's with the annoying quadquad E thing?
The sound on the stream
I must be blessed with some weird sort of fortune, for I don't hear anything out of the ordinary.
Holy shit I think this is going to be a draw guys. Hero can't move out and split his stuff up and Byul can't end it if he just defends. Unless one of them throws hard its a draw.
Why on earth would Byul not at least have one more back up extractor and why on earth make the new extractor so close? He should have made another one across the map not a base away. Byul threw that hard.
On December 16 2013 20:43 bourne117 wrote: Why on earth would Byul not at least have one more back up extractor and why on earth make the new extractor so close? He should have made another one across the map not a base away. Byul threw that hard.
On December 16 2013 20:43 bourne117 wrote: Why on earth would Byul not at least have one more back up extractor and why on earth make the new extractor so close? He should have made another one across the map not a base away. Byul threw that hard.
Nah, that wasn't a throw so much as just caving in to the pressure. Good move by herO to test his nerve.
On December 16 2013 20:42 Zheryn wrote: Mutas just ruin PvZ. It would have been so retarded if herO wouldn't have got that win.
That's hilarious, Zergs were saying the same thing after the Soulkey sOs game.
We were saying that SK played poorly, that's a bit different from bitching about a unit being unfair or OP.
well there were comments like storm good unit and stuff
X good unit is a pretty standard comment. Someone thinks storm is not good? Mutas are a good unit too. It's just irritating when protoss fans/players berate zergs for whining about protoss all-ins and deathball, only to bawl their eyes out when a zerg makes mutas because it, you know, works.
On December 16 2013 20:42 Zheryn wrote: Mutas just ruin PvZ. It would have been so retarded if herO wouldn't have got that win.
Only 'retarded' of herO to not get that win.
Was quite obvious that he should have split his army and go kill buildings.
It's still retarded that the only way to play against mutas is to base trade, unless you have a lot of phoenix.
or storms, or archons
Storms aren't very effective vs mutas, they can move out of them before they take too many ticks of damage and then they can also regen any damage very quick. Archons are good but very immobile, and drop in effectiveness if the mutas magic box. Phoenix are the best answer but it takes only 1 fungal to screw you over for the rest of the game.
I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
Non-shared just does not work in Sc2. It just turns into 2 players killing one, then a slow death animation for his partner.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
BW 2v2 never had shares bases
Eh, this is a different game, not sure I see your point.
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
Non-shared just does not work in Sc2. It just turns into 2 players killing one, then a slow death animation for his partner.
Yeah, this. With shorter distances, it might be vaguely OK, but on Alterzim...
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
BW 2v2 never had shares bases
Eh, this is a different game, not sure I see your point.
my point is that good 2v2 doesn't need shared bases
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
BW 2v2 never had shares bases
Eh, this is a different game, not sure I see your point.
my point is that good 2v2 doesn't need shared bases
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
Non-shared just does not work in Sc2. It just turns into 2 players killing one, then a slow death animation for his partner.
Yeah, this. With shorter distances, it might be vaguely OK, but on Alterzim...
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
BW 2v2 never had shares bases
Eh, this is a different game, not sure I see your point.
my point is that good 2v2 doesn't need shared bases
On December 16 2013 20:53 Swiv wrote: I think they could not have chosen a more terrible map than this one. Proper 2v2 needs shared or really near ally bases... this is just a stupid rush/cheese map... 2v2 can be really fun.
BW 2v2 never had shares bases
Eh, this is a different game, not sure I see your point.
my point is that good 2v2 doesn't need shared bases
I think you missed the point: "in a different game"
Haha. He's not MY prodigy though. He got to where he is now through hard work, determination, and perseverance. I just gave him lots of encouragement and support
Interesting lineups. Coach Park sends his best players, while Coach Han instead chooses to rotate players to give them exposure. I would interpret this as a must-win game for Coach Park, as it would be a psychological blow if a team that is "trying to win" loses to a team that is taking it in a leisurely manner.
Haha. He's not MY prodigy though. He got to where he is now through hard work, determination, and perseverance. I just gave him lots of encouragement and support
He wouldn't be here without your support. Thanks for adding another Terran to the world, it's a dying race recently. :o
I love this game so much, I think it is wonderful and amazing in every way. Just ignore the what appears to be murderous rage in my eyes, they are just overflowing with euphoria.
On December 16 2013 21:33 Elite_ wrote: Why so many 1 stars? I don't understand. :o
If I describe the game as "failed 2-base all-in into Sentry drop Forcefielding the ramp into all-inning again into building a third and winning anyway," do you understand why Zergs would give it 1 star? ;D
On December 16 2013 21:33 Squat wrote: I love this game so much, I think it is wonderful and amazing in every way. Just ignore the what appears to be murderous rage in my eyes, they are just overflowing with euphoria.
Screw you Why can't you just enjoy the games lol ~_~
Edit: actually nvm, I dont think there's any reasoning with you guys when you are mad after such a game. W/e, kinda spoils the lr imo
On December 16 2013 21:33 Elite_ wrote: Why so many 1 stars? I don't understand. :o
I didn't vote 1 star, i voted 3. I can understand why, obviously like someone said people hate protoss, but i think it was because overall the game was shite skill level. Was however good fun in a watch level as lots of action thahts why i gave it a 3 xD Unlike other games today i given 1s and 2s Think the best game of today has been Maru vs Parting, but i may be bias in that xD
On December 16 2013 21:33 Squat wrote: I love this game so much, I think it is wonderful and amazing in every way. Just ignore the what appears to be murderous rage in my eyes, they are just overflowing with euphoria.
Screw you Why can't you just enjoy the games lol ~_~
I haven't been able to enjoy PvZ since BW, it is eye-gougingly horrific in SC2. It's like trying to enjoy rubbing bleach in my eyes.
After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
On December 16 2013 21:39 Ammanas wrote: After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
doesn't matter, "PROTOSS OP SHIT RACE!!!!"
don't even really know why I bother with TL right now, the level of mindless protoss hate is disgusting -_-
On December 16 2013 21:33 Elite_ wrote: Why so many 1 stars? I don't understand. :o
Because people don't like, when games end like this. Me included.
As a Zerg, the only complain I have is that looking at the game from the omniscient observer view was really painful as Hydra was kinda always being overaggressive or undecisive. No complains Protoss-wise tho, but I gave it a two stars because my inside hurts of watching hydra not making drones but not attacking either, and then making his move right as the colossi pop out.
On December 16 2013 21:39 Ammanas wrote: After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
doesn't matter, "PROTOSS OP SHIT RACE!!!!"
don't even really know why I bother with TL right now, the level of mindless protoss hate is disgusting -_-
be happy you weren't a Zerg a year ago.
The level of Zerg hate was ridiculous. Warranted imo, but ridiculous.
On December 16 2013 21:39 Ammanas wrote: After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
doesn't matter, "PROTOSS OP SHIT RACE!!!!"
don't even really know why I bother with TL right now, the level of mindless protoss hate is disgusting -_-
be happy you weren't a Zerg a year ago.
The level of Zerg hate was ridiculous. Warranted imo, but ridiculous.
disagree, I think what's happening now is way worse, mostly due to people raging about Protoss off and on during the entire life of the game.
I've actually done that for real and it works. I was getting mugged and I acted like I'm crazy and don't understand that the guy wants to mug me and the guy got discouraged enough for me to have time to reach the safe street. Then he ran away.
On December 16 2013 21:39 Ammanas wrote: After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
doesn't matter, "PROTOSS OP SHIT RACE!!!!"
don't even really know why I bother with TL right now, the level of mindless protoss hate is disgusting -_-
On December 16 2013 21:39 Ammanas wrote: After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
doesn't matter, "PROTOSS OP SHIT RACE!!!!"
don't even really know why I bother with TL right now, the level of mindless protoss hate is disgusting -_-
Most ppl just hate FFs...
You can find qq about pretty much every single protoss unit except maybe carriers without looking very hard. Maybe not all from the same person, but the protoss hate is a lot more widespread than that.
On December 16 2013 21:39 Ammanas wrote: After none of the engagements was Pigbaby really behind. He always did just enough damage to not kill Hydra but to continue with his pushes. Also, bad decision by Hydra - if he would build 12 mutas instead of corruptors/roaches in the end, he would have won.
All in all, dunno why people rage so much. Even though I rooted for Hydra, he lost fair and square. And the game was entertaining to watch with multiple fights etc...
doesn't matter, "PROTOSS OP SHIT RACE!!!!"
don't even really know why I bother with TL right now, the level of mindless protoss hate is disgusting -_-
Most ppl just hate FFs...
You can find qq about pretty much every single protoss unit except maybe carriers without looking very hard. Maybe not all from the same person, but the protoss hate is a lot more widespread than that.
On December 16 2013 21:51 Schelim wrote: i haven't been watching this much starcraft in a while. good job Blizzard killing one of your game servers to make me watch one of your other games.
On December 16 2013 21:44 Squat wrote: Can these guys share resources?
Yes.
Funnel minerals to terran, funnel gas to zerg. Make bio/mass muta. Laugh.
Roaches/Hydras + Medivacs with bio behind is quite a terrific thing too.
Roach/Hydra too mineral intensive. The whole point is to make units that are heavy in whatever resource your ally will have a surplus of. Muta and Bio have amazing synergy in this regard. You can get a huge, extremely mobile army in a very short time. Most theorycrafted optimal combos in 2v2 have little practical application, they require too much time and setup.
On December 16 2013 21:51 Schelim wrote: i haven't been watching this much starcraft in a while. good job Blizzard killing one of your game servers to make me watch one of your other games.
On December 16 2013 21:51 Schelim wrote: i haven't been watching this much starcraft in a while. good job Blizzard killing one of your game servers to make me watch one of your other games.
All EU servers are done ^^
Down* wtf
oh, thought it was only Hearthstone
Ya me too, until I tried to play some sc2 yesterday ^^ ~ all servers down according to blizzard eu twitter ^_^
On December 16 2013 21:44 Squat wrote: Can these guys share resources?
Yes.
Funnel minerals to terran, funnel gas to zerg. Make bio/mass muta. Laugh.
Roaches/Hydras + Medivacs with bio behind is quite a terrific thing too.
Roach/Hydra too mineral intensive. The whole point is to make units that are heavy in whatever resource your ally will have a surplus of. Muta and Bio have amazing synergy in this regard. You can get a huge, extremely mobile army in a very short time. Most theorycrafted optimal combos in 2v2 have little practical application, they require too much time and setup.
I wasn't talking about feeding strategies. Also, bio doesn't have gas in excess before their third is running.
On December 16 2013 21:51 Schelim wrote: i haven't been watching this much starcraft in a while. good job Blizzard killing one of your game servers to make me watch one of your other games.
All EU servers are done ^^
Down* wtf
oh, thought it was only Hearthstone
The login-servers are kind of broken for all Blizzard games in EU atm, but you can still login if you're lucky or keep trying.
So how about Oracles keep both of their speed buffs but their beam gets a nerf so they just don't kill stuff quite as quickly? Early Oracles having such a huge effect is getting pretty old. Cure/Speed certainly made the worst out of it though!
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Which is why he is playing in Proleague for a KeSPA team, am I right?
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.
Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Which is why he is playing in Proleague for a KeSPA team, am I right?
Your question doesn't make sense. Him not playing in proleague is definitely not because there are no reasons for him to play, it just because there are 1 or more reasons for him to play outside.
Hence, the thousands plus 1 reason(money) to play outside. Simple math works in favor of foreign tournaments at this moment of his young life.
Young kids on TL likes to take anything to an absolute state, so quote myself again "zero reason my ass". You can say there are thousand more reasons for him to play outside, it's fine, but don't say zero reason for him to play in Korea.
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.
Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.
BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.
Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.
BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.
Well duh BW legend? Or just Esports legend in general. Name one other player that has been relevant at the absolute top level of competition for this length of time.
JD is legitimately a top 3 zerg in the world and arguably a top 5 player. M18M never came even close to that. JD is playing way, way better opponents today, M18M would have gotten butchered if he had been at blizzcon or WCS season finals in 2013. It's not about what you win it's about who you win against.
And if we are going to be pedantic, JD has a lot of very good reasons not to play PL, and very few good reasons to do it.
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.
Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.
BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.
Well duh BW legend? Or just Esports legend in general. Name one other player that has been relevant at the absolute top level of competition for this length of time.
JD is legitimately a top 3 zerg in the world and arguably a top 5 player. M18M never came even close to that. JD is playing way, way better opponents today, M18M would have gotten butchered if he had been at blizzcon or WCS season finals in 2013. It's not about what you win it's about who you win against.
And if we are going to be pedantic, JD has a lot of very good reasons not to play PL, and very few good reasons to do it.
my point is he has lots to prove in starcraft two, and you talk as if JD has ascend to the top of the world after winning one random weekend foreign tourney. Achievement man. In that department, even the like of M18M (I know he sucks) is more accomplished than JD.
anyway seeing your team icon I figure it might be pointless to argue
Pigbaby vs Hydra Finals G1 shows whats wrong with the design. Watch it.
WTF? the ending battle was a disgrace, hudra snipes colossus as fast as he can and still immortals and ffs overpowers him. It just shows what a fucking joke protoss deathballs is.
Sry if this is out of context but that game made me REALLY mad :D
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote: Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!
What did they say?
LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.
Soulkey will show them the way
I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T
JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.
Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.
Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.
Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.
BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.
Well duh BW legend? Or just Esports legend in general. Name one other player that has been relevant at the absolute top level of competition for this length of time.
JD is legitimately a top 3 zerg in the world and arguably a top 5 player. M18M never came even close to that. JD is playing way, way better opponents today, M18M would have gotten butchered if he had been at blizzcon or WCS season finals in 2013. It's not about what you win it's about who you win against.
And if we are going to be pedantic, JD has a lot of very good reasons not to play PL, and very few good reasons to do it.
my point is he has lots to prove in starcraft two, and you talk as if JD has ascend to the top of the world after winning one random weekend foreign tourney. Achievement man. In that department, even the like of M18M (I know he sucks) is more accomplished than JD.
anyway seeing your team icon I figure it might be pointless to argue
No, he ascended to the top after beating top 5 opponents in series over and over. That's how it works. If you think Stardust's wins are more impressive than JD's record, you are insane.
As for your inane point about me being a Hwaseung fan, I could say the same, you are a toss, so of course you'll be cheering for someone who can only win by cheesing and all-ins. Terrible argument.
On December 18 2013 18:45 opterown wrote: i don't know if race icon means that much, i just have an arbiter since i think it looks cooler than the terran and zerg equivalents lol
Which is why I said it was a terrible argument. He assumed since I was an Hwaseung fan I would be irrational and biased, knowing nothing about me or my opinions on JD as a player in the past. That kind of presumptuous douchery irritates me.
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