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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 16 2013 17:33 GMT
#761
On December 17 2013 00:45 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 22:23 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:12 SunflowerSeeds wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:08 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:04 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:03 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:02 TheDwf wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote:
Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!

What did they say?

LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.

Soulkey will show them the way

I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T

JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.


Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.

Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.

Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.


BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.

Well duh BW legend? Or just Esports legend in general. Name one other player that has been relevant at the absolute top level of competition for this length of time.

JD is legitimately a top 3 zerg in the world and arguably a top 5 player. M18M never came even close to that. JD is playing way, way better opponents today, M18M would have gotten butchered if he had been at blizzcon or WCS season finals in 2013. It's not about what you win it's about who you win against.

And if we are going to be pedantic, JD has a lot of very good reasons not to play PL, and very few good reasons to do it.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
December 16 2013 20:24 GMT
#762
watching teh VODs now, my ticket from last year still works lol

$5 last year... BEST DEAL EVER
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
December 16 2013 20:43 GMT
#763
Any VODs that are truly worth watching? More and more frequently I'm finding that matches are just rated high presumably because of the winner.
The heart's eternal vow
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2013 20:44 GMT
#764
i think a game worth 4 or 5 is definitely worth watching
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 17 2013 00:38 GMT
#765
#coachpark
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 17 2013 04:51 GMT
#766
On December 17 2013 02:33 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 00:45 Arceus wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:23 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:12 SunflowerSeeds wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:08 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:04 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:03 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:02 TheDwf wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote:
Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!

What did they say?

LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.

Soulkey will show them the way

I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T

JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.


Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.

Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.

Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.


BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.

Well duh BW legend? Or just Esports legend in general. Name one other player that has been relevant at the absolute top level of competition for this length of time.

JD is legitimately a top 3 zerg in the world and arguably a top 5 player. M18M never came even close to that. JD is playing way, way better opponents today, M18M would have gotten butchered if he had been at blizzcon or WCS season finals in 2013. It's not about what you win it's about who you win against.

And if we are going to be pedantic, JD has a lot of very good reasons not to play PL, and very few good reasons to do it.


my point is he has lots to prove in starcraft two, and you talk as if JD has ascend to the top of the world after winning one random weekend foreign tourney. Achievement man. In that department, even the like of M18M (I know he sucks) is more accomplished than JD.

anyway seeing your team icon I figure it might be pointless to argue
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
December 17 2013 05:21 GMT
#767
The prediction is correct!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
December 17 2013 05:48 GMT
#768
Don't forget that tonight is KT vs SKT, with Flash vs Rain as ACE match.

Stream address: http://player.afreeca.com/teaminven

KST 6:00pm
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
December 17 2013 08:23 GMT
#769
Wooo
The heart's eternal vow
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2013 23:41 GMT
#770
all the korean VODs are up, waiting for the rest of the english ones so i can add them.

Green Wings vs. SKT
gb Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3
kr Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

IM vs. CJ
gb Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3
kr Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

Pre-Season Finals
gb Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3
kr Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
December 18 2013 09:22 GMT
#771
Pigbaby vs Hydra Finals G1 shows whats wrong with the design. Watch it.

WTF? the ending battle was a disgrace, hudra snipes colossus as fast as he can and still immortals and ffs overpowers him. It just shows what a fucking joke protoss deathballs is.

Sry if this is out of context but that game made me REALLY mad :D

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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 09:42:17
December 18 2013 09:41 GMT
#772
On December 17 2013 13:51 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 02:33 Squat wrote:
On December 17 2013 00:45 Arceus wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:23 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:12 SunflowerSeeds wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:08 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:04 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:03 Squat wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:02 TheDwf wrote:
On December 16 2013 22:01 Squat wrote:
Quickly, ban the casters, balance whining!

What did they say?

LoL guy was talking about deathballs dominating, Wolf questioned whether zerg could really beat protoss right now, sort of.

Soulkey will show them the way

I would have said JD, but he's not playing in Proleague T_T

JD has zero reason to give a fuck about proleague, it would do nothing for him. He just needs decent practice partners, and I'm sure most teams would be happy to have his as such.


Zero my ass. JD has thousands of reason to give a fuck about the place he grew to be a legend.

Cool. List one. He gave the better part of his youth to grinding in a cramped teamhouse 12 hours a day, because that's where the money and the glory was.

Korea has nothing to offer him anymore other than good practice. Spend the whole season playing 6452 PvZs in Korea, or travel the globe and attend dozens of tournaments, make tons of money and experience the world? Korea did not make JD a legend, JD did that.


BW legend sure. Sc2 legend? At the moment I'd take the like of, say M18M, over JD anyday because he won quite a few foreign tourneys.

Well duh BW legend? Or just Esports legend in general. Name one other player that has been relevant at the absolute top level of competition for this length of time.

JD is legitimately a top 3 zerg in the world and arguably a top 5 player. M18M never came even close to that. JD is playing way, way better opponents today, M18M would have gotten butchered if he had been at blizzcon or WCS season finals in 2013. It's not about what you win it's about who you win against.

And if we are going to be pedantic, JD has a lot of very good reasons not to play PL, and very few good reasons to do it.


my point is he has lots to prove in starcraft two, and you talk as if JD has ascend to the top of the world after winning one random weekend foreign tourney. Achievement man. In that department, even the like of M18M (I know he sucks) is more accomplished than JD.

anyway seeing your team icon I figure it might be pointless to argue

No, he ascended to the top after beating top 5 opponents in series over and over. That's how it works. If you think Stardust's wins are more impressive than JD's record, you are insane.

As for your inane point about me being a Hwaseung fan, I could say the same, you are a toss, so of course you'll be cheering for someone who can only win by cheesing and all-ins. Terrible argument.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 18 2013 09:45 GMT
#773
i don't know if race icon means that much, i just have an arbiter since i think it looks cooler than the terran and zerg equivalents lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 18 2013 09:57 GMT
#774
On December 18 2013 18:45 opterown wrote:
i don't know if race icon means that much, i just have an arbiter since i think it looks cooler than the terran and zerg equivalents lol

Which is why I said it was a terrible argument. He assumed since I was an Hwaseung fan I would be irrational and biased, knowing nothing about me or my opinions on JD as a player in the past. That kind of presumptuous douchery irritates me.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
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